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WWDC is Monday, nobody seems to be expecting anything much. Maybe the Keynote will focus on Swift 3. OS X seems likely to get rebranded as macOS. Music on iPhone and iTunes will both change completely once again, infuriating everyone. New watch bands? Jokes about The Car? Does anyone even want a new Apple product at this point? Will Jimmy Iovine be allowed onstage?

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 9 June 2016 17:24 (two years ago) Permalink

when do they announce the new iPhone? i care about that

Spottie, Thursday, 9 June 2016 18:02 (two years ago) Permalink

presumably September like all recent years

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 9 June 2016 18:57 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Nervous that the next MacBook Pro is going to max out at 1TB with non-replaceable storage. They wouldn't do that to us, right? Because when this thing ships in 2017 I'm going to need more than that.

0 / 0 (lukas), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:25 (two years ago) Permalink

"1 TB should be enough for anyone." -Apple, probably

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:06 (two years ago) Permalink

As usual, my phone is kind of fucked up just in time for the announcement and I'm just trying to make it last. Screen cracked a couple weeks ago, and it's really hard to make it charge.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:13 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

My partner picked up a new 2018 model 13" MacBook Pro and I'm jealous at a level I haven't dealt with since the Wall Street iteration of the PowerBook G3 finally got it right. My 15" is a goddamn barge and I'm finding that no model of iPad is an adequate travel substitute.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 August 2018 07:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

i got a 3400c just before that. jealous years.

j., Monday, 20 August 2018 08:20 (eight months ago) Permalink

I always thought the Kanga / 3500 / G3 PowerBook was the ultimate in heartbreak. I had a 5300 though, so I know the worst a PowerBook can be.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 20 August 2018 10:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

2018 seems like a good vintage of MacBooks to skip. I'm ready to order a 2019 model now, though.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 20 August 2018 15:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

*silently pours one out for my old 1400cs*

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 August 2018 21:50 (eight months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Apple announcement day. *self-flagellates*

https://www.famousmonsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Logans-run-red_result.jpg

RENEW! RENEW!

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

Just tell me what the new Mac mini is...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

excited for the redesigned spatial finder

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

I like my new MacBook Pro but am alternately cursing Apple for cutting HD space / not taking the +$400 hit and getting 1TB like my old laptop (a 2012 MacBook Pro).

Keyboard is fine but the trackpad sucks.

Touchscreen = I can summon emojis.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

I took my '17 MBP in to get the left speaker fixed (apparently this is a thing) and got one of the new keyboards. I missed the press release on this: https://www.wired.com/story/apple-will-fix-broken-macbook-keyboards/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah glad I got one after that. the SSD is not replaceable?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

Nope on the replaceable SSD.

I guess I'm probably going to pull the trigger on a fancy new Xs phone but can't make much of a compelling case when my 7 just keeps on going.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

psyched for some extremely incremental improvements

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

Creepy new iPhone X scans your face to unlock, has built-in AI, thinks humans are obsolete:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYIo2Lj9xek

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

https://theporouscity.com/media/timtweet.png

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:23 (seven months ago) Permalink

It was already gone by the time I opened it.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:28 (seven months ago) Permalink

ECG thing for the watch is pretty great

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:28 (seven months ago) Permalink

a little off topic but does anyone else use f.lux? it doesn't work on my new MacBook Pro and my eyes hurt

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

your new laptop should have that functionality built in!

Clay, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah it's not nearly as good though, fluctuates too much, way too much blue at night. maybe i can monkey with the settings and/or just get used to it. apparently f.lux is working on a fix.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

liquid retina huh.... maybe just call it plasma

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:29 (seven months ago) Permalink

Haptic Touch = long press

DJI, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

They're never going to do a watch with an always-visible time, are they? Fuck.

stet, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

All I know is if they ever make an iOS release incompatible with the SE, and don’t update the SE, I’m outie.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

this might be worth sending a CEO email about, what’s Tim’s handle again

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:02 (seven months ago) Permalink

Ugh you can’t buy an SE direct from Apple anymore, fuckin whatever dude.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

no new macbook air?!?

:_(

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

sounds like they discontinued the SE

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

Macs TK

I honestly feel nothing for any products Apple makes these days, I’m not mad or anything it’s all just at a stable equilibrium and design differentiators are basically impossible, since all anyone wants is things built on the same lines as the products Apple introduced 2003-2007. They are still dragging their heels on a MacBook based on an Apple-designed ARM SoC and that irritates me a bit.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

Shit, maybe I better grab one before it's too late. My 5s will be 5 years old in December. xp

WmC, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

Price drop on “obsolete “ phones always welcome after an announcement

calstars, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

Ok, so there's no longer going to be any retail model available with a headphone jack? I guess this really will be my last iphone.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:39 (seven months ago) Permalink

either that or I invest in a good lightning DAC and just deal with the annoying bulk, I guesss

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

lol Apple now offering 7 different models at the same time

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1039962912805330944/sYRoV1Zg?format=jpg&name=600x314

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

hell yeah steve jobs would be proud

🧛🏻‍♂️ F A T 🧛🏻‍♂️ D R A C U L A 🧛🏻‍♂️ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

What customer is targeted by having a larger iphone 8 at $699 vs a same-size iPhone XR at $50 more?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

They’re basically admitting nobody gives a shit about the phone hardware anymore. It’s just a collection of price points

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

I keep thinking "this is finally the release where people sour on Apple" and then their stock price doubles again.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

xxp people who can't deal w/o a home button or hate the notch

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

Imagine what Steve Jobs would say about the "I Phone Ten XS Max."

http://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2012/11/Screen-Shot-2018-04-11-at-10.39.01-AM.png

DJI, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:59 (seven months ago) Permalink

love how they used the planet image on the newer and pricier options so it's juuuuuust out of the way of the notch, attempting to fool us into believing maybe it's not there.

getting the max tho obv. my 6+ did it's job for four years.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

Literally bought an 8 yesterday fuck

gbx, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 21:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

512 gb Max is $1449
LOLOLOL

calstars, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:08 (seven months ago) Permalink

increments increments increments

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

I haven't used Linux on the desktop for at least the last 7 years of linux on the desktop but systemd and attendant revolutions in userland seem both inescapable and unpleasant

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 11 March 2019 23:34 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm with Lukas, I've grown up using Apple and can't imagine using any other OS regularly. I used Windows XP at high school and have a Chromebook now, but beyond the most basic functions, I'm completely lost and not interested in spending any more time than I have to working on a computer that isn't running an Apple OS.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 04:36 (one month ago) Permalink

is it safe to install Mojave yet or does it still suck?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 04:38 (one month ago) Permalink

well what happened to me was that i installed mojave at the exact time my c drive started failing. So i've since reinstalled mojave on the new hard drive and, it seems okay in its current iteration? ended up buying a new word suite cuz i had been using 2009 and it no longer worked. outside of that, i can't complain too much. it's a little slower than i remember macs being but aren't we all.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 04:42 (one month ago) Permalink

I would like a cheap and light 12 or 13" portable with a decent keyboard and screen and battery, on which I can write latex and read and markup (often big, with graphics) PDFs. I don't care about the OS beyond those needs. I looked at chromebooks recently but apparently running latex is still so to speak "experimental".

My 2015 MBP is still running beautifully but I don't like lugging it around. iPad pro would be great if it could run latex natively and it was easy to index and search my thousands of pdfs on it : that's the size and weight and screen and battery I'd like, and even the "smart keyboard" is fine enough.

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 11:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Fuck w10 telemetry. I’m now looking again at hackintoshing

stet, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Flappy , Mojave running fine for me

calstars, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:29 (one month ago) Permalink

I used macs throughout my childhood and even wrote all my college papers on like, clarisworks. It kind of screwed me up when I had to start working in corporate offices that all used windows.

Yerac, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:33 (one month ago) Permalink

MacBook Pro (13″ with Touch Bar)

screen is set to 1440×900 pt by default while the screen resolution is 2560×1600 px (1280×800 pt) — this means it’s not at 2x Retina, though this is probably due to battery life concerns

Oh shit I've had this thing for 18 months now and never even bothered to look at changing the screen resolution because I just assumed it was set to the largest value by default. I have so much more screen space now though I am old so it's kind of hard to read.

Also the amount of configuration I've done to override the stupid touchbar behavior and try to get it to behave more like the physical buttons I know and love is maddening.

joygoat, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:57 (one month ago) Permalink

imo you don't want to use native resolution, but the default scaling is a little too big

the days of really wonky scaling where things don't look quite right are mostly over as long as you pick a resolution that's the right aspect ratio, though!

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:12 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm now reminded of my insane coworker who has a 20" 4k monitor that he runs native and sits like two inches away from the screen

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:12 (one month ago) Permalink

At work I just use the 13” laptop screen and run iTerm full screen with a large font size so I’m usually looking at one thing at a time, all the screen real estate I need

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:17 (one month ago) Permalink

I'd say you really just need a command line machine running tmux (or whatever people use now) and a second computer for web searching but tbh the font scaling is probably better in iTerm

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:19 (one month ago) Permalink

I would definitely have that setup with an iPad as my web browser if I were setting up from scratch but I’m not inclined to badger my boss into spending money to replace my perfectly fine computer

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:21 (one month ago) Permalink

Really tho I’d probably still run X11 bc window managers are easier for me to deal with than tmux, I just wouldn’t install a browser.

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:22 (one month ago) Permalink

macos command-line only mode isn't really useful, for sure

i'm nostalgically thinking about the times i'd be tweaking my x windows config or just not care about running a gui for a while and just run command line-only linux consoles. if all you do is talk on irc and play quake, it was more than good enough

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:24 (one month ago) Permalink

tbh i wasn't even using tmux, you could switch between linux consoles with what, alt+f1 through f8 by default?

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Yah. Still can!

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:43 (one month ago) Permalink

X11 is all Wayland now though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server_protocol)

(it isn't, i don't think, not yet)

koogs, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:16 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah, I think it's a bit optimistic to say that at this point

I haven't used linux on the desktop in a serious way for yeeeears though.

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:24 (one month ago) Permalink

dang maybe I should just get a Pinebook

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:27 (one month ago) Permalink

the last time i used linux for personal use was
about 15 years ago and it was a debian distro.
can't say i miss it.

i usually stick to macs, unless i'm dealing with
servers, which luckily i don't do a whole lot
of work on.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:33 (one month ago) Permalink

yet you seem to be using a text editor with hard-wrapping instead of actual word wrapping to draft posts

word wrap is fine, most unix text editors have it

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:30 (one month ago) Permalink

At work I just use the 13” laptop screen and run iTerm full screen with a large font size so I’m usually looking at one thing at a time, all the screen real estate I need

― moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:17 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me too but with a vertical tmux split.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:33 (one month ago) Permalink

HVTN-704% tput cols
97

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:41 (one month ago) Permalink

that's my whole screen. looking at things side by side is for chumps!

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:41 (one month ago) Permalink

lol do you run lynx too

j., Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:47 (one month ago) Permalink

mh, the thing is some browsers i use are in a small
sandbox window, and i'm usually on a work laptop.

we trade laptops and use multiple screens here,
mostly for work. some nerds use it to watch
twitch streams.

i can't be bothered to setup every single machine
i am at before i start using it.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:59 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah but what browser inserts linebreaks like that no matter how big the window is? Are you unable to scroll to the right? Idgi

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:38 (one month ago) Permalink

like upload a screenshot of what your browser window looks like

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:38 (one month ago) Permalink

lol do you run lynx too

― j., Tuesday, March 12, 2019 4:47 PM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sadly not as a matter of course, I'm not strong enough, and also I need to uh do web development, for my sins

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:39 (one month ago) Permalink

silby, no, i mean i have to resize everything,
including the browser, to fit everything
i need on the monitors. so instead of just
typing to fill the entire text area, i push
enter out of habit.

it makes things look neater when i write!
:-)

it's just probably a weird habit, but
does it really bother people?

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:44 (one month ago) Permalink

well it's like you're just asking
to get punked at least a little

j., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 01:30 (one month ago) Permalink

forgive him
they were delicious

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 03:52 (one month ago) Permalink

I think
it’s jarring
to read
text
like
that yes

mh, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 04:14 (one month ago) Permalink

not in
one
of
those
books of
poetry
like
what
robert
creeley
writes,
though

though

john
jacob
jingleheimer
&c
is no
bob
creeley

j., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 05:27 (one month ago) Permalink

E E Cummings morelike

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 06:09 (one month ago) Permalink

what if a much of
a wrap of
a
word

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 11:53 (one month ago) Permalink

New iMacs with 9th gen processors out today. Are Vega graphics worth the extra £450 though? And surprise! the SSD prices are utter filth.

stet, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:54 (one month ago) Permalink

Probably not

A friend of mine dropped her iMac and now the whole computer is inoperable - a major downside of all-in-ones

calstars, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:19 (one month ago) Permalink

Counter-argument is that if you empty a beer over your keyboard, you don’t fry the whole computer.

Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:46 (one month ago) Permalink

My late 2007 iMac has finally died. Probably 80% of my computer use is on a MacBook Pro but I do like to have a Mac desktop around for photo editing, managing music, and streaming video via Plex. I usually don't like buying computers used but I'd like to keep the replacement well under $1000 so I've been looking at my options. 2014 Mac Minis are around $300/4GB, slower processor and $400/8GB, faster processor. Thinking of pairing one of those with a <$200 new 27 inch monitor. How bad are sub $200 monitors, considering I've been OK with a 2007 iMac screen for the last 12 years? Will a 2014 Mini run a Photoshop alternative (e.g. Affinity Photo) and process raw images reasonably well?

B&H has the new 21.5 inch 4K iMac on sale for $1100 right now but if I could get by OK for the next couple of years for half that price... I dunno.

early rejecter, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:05 (one month ago) Permalink

Why not just by a good monitor for the MacBook Pro, and an external disk if storage is an issue?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:07 (one month ago) Permalink

Forgot to mention that the MacBook is a work computer that I don't have admin privileges for so can't install my own software.

early rejecter, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:40 (one month ago) Permalink

And between me, the wife, and kids, we need more than one computer in the house anyway.

early rejecter, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:44 (one month ago) Permalink

I think Ed's line of question probably leads to the right answer - just get some removable storage and a nice external monitor.

How bad are sub $200 monitors, considering I've been OK with a 2007 iMac screen for the last 12 years?

extremely bad. There is not a corollary of Moore's Law that applies to monitors.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:45 (one month ago) Permalink

we ran into your problem a few years back and did what you're thinking of. so we're now on our second Mac mini (the first went down hard, right on schedule after its AppleCare ran out) with a crappy monitor and we use it for device backups, uploading photos to dropbox, and managing the music library. That is literally all it does. While you could conceivably stay under $1000 for a similar package, I would advise caution (see above re: lifespan of our 2014 Mac mini).

El Tomboto, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:50 (one month ago) Permalink

2007 iMac screen likely better than most <200 monitors in the market. Spend a little more and get a dell ultra sharp.

dan selzer, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:55 (one month ago) Permalink

a 2011 mini w SSD and maxed out RAM is an extremely credible general purpose computer fwiw. it can't install mojave but there's little else it can't do.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Do you know what failed on your Mini, Tomboto? Hard drive or something else? Higher spec 2014 Mini and a decent monitor I guess would be approaching $700 -- at which point I can see me talking myself into just getting a new iMac for $400 more. Argh...

early rejecter, Monday, 25 March 2019 04:26 (one month ago) Permalink


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