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WWDC is Monday, nobody seems to be expecting anything much. Maybe the Keynote will focus on Swift 3. OS X seems likely to get rebranded as macOS. Music on iPhone and iTunes will both change completely once again, infuriating everyone. New watch bands? Jokes about The Car? Does anyone even want a new Apple product at this point? Will Jimmy Iovine be allowed onstage?

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 9 June 2016 17:24 (four years ago) link

when do they announce the new iPhone? i care about that

Spottie, Thursday, 9 June 2016 18:02 (four years ago) link

presumably September like all recent years

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 9 June 2016 18:57 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Nervous that the next MacBook Pro is going to max out at 1TB with non-replaceable storage. They wouldn't do that to us, right? Because when this thing ships in 2017 I'm going to need more than that.

0 / 0 (lukas), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:25 (four years ago) link

"1 TB should be enough for anyone." -Apple, probably

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:06 (four years ago) link

As usual, my phone is kind of fucked up just in time for the announcement and I'm just trying to make it last. Screen cracked a couple weeks ago, and it's really hard to make it charge.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:13 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

My partner picked up a new 2018 model 13" MacBook Pro and I'm jealous at a level I haven't dealt with since the Wall Street iteration of the PowerBook G3 finally got it right. My 15" is a goddamn barge and I'm finding that no model of iPad is an adequate travel substitute.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 August 2018 07:25 (two years ago) link

i got a 3400c just before that. jealous years.

j., Monday, 20 August 2018 08:20 (two years ago) link

I always thought the Kanga / 3500 / G3 PowerBook was the ultimate in heartbreak. I had a 5300 though, so I know the worst a PowerBook can be.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 20 August 2018 10:06 (two years ago) link

2018 seems like a good vintage of MacBooks to skip. I'm ready to order a 2019 model now, though.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 20 August 2018 15:46 (two years ago) link

*silently pours one out for my old 1400cs*

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 August 2018 21:50 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Apple announcement day. *self-flagellates*

https://www.famousmonsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Logans-run-red_result.jpg

RENEW! RENEW!

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:33 (two years ago) link

Just tell me what the new Mac mini is...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:43 (two years ago) link

excited for the redesigned spatial finder

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:55 (two years ago) link

I like my new MacBook Pro but am alternately cursing Apple for cutting HD space / not taking the +$400 hit and getting 1TB like my old laptop (a 2012 MacBook Pro).

Keyboard is fine but the trackpad sucks.

Touchscreen = I can summon emojis.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:56 (two years ago) link

I took my '17 MBP in to get the left speaker fixed (apparently this is a thing) and got one of the new keyboards. I missed the press release on this: https://www.wired.com/story/apple-will-fix-broken-macbook-keyboards/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:01 (two years ago) link

yeah glad I got one after that. the SSD is not replaceable?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:04 (two years ago) link

Nope on the replaceable SSD.

I guess I'm probably going to pull the trigger on a fancy new Xs phone but can't make much of a compelling case when my 7 just keeps on going.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:19 (two years ago) link

psyched for some extremely incremental improvements

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:14 (two years ago) link

Creepy new iPhone X scans your face to unlock, has built-in AI, thinks humans are obsolete:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYIo2Lj9xek

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:24 (two years ago) link

https://theporouscity.com/media/timtweet.png

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:23 (two years ago) link

It was already gone by the time I opened it.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:28 (two years ago) link

ECG thing for the watch is pretty great

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:28 (two years ago) link

a little off topic but does anyone else use f.lux? it doesn't work on my new MacBook Pro and my eyes hurt

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:47 (two years ago) link

your new laptop should have that functionality built in!

Clay, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:48 (two years ago) link

yeah it's not nearly as good though, fluctuates too much, way too much blue at night. maybe i can monkey with the settings and/or just get used to it. apparently f.lux is working on a fix.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:56 (two years ago) link

liquid retina huh.... maybe just call it plasma

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:29 (two years ago) link

Haptic Touch = long press

DJI, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:33 (two years ago) link

They're never going to do a watch with an always-visible time, are they? Fuck.

stet, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:35 (two years ago) link

All I know is if they ever make an iOS release incompatible with the SE, and don’t update the SE, I’m outie.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:01 (two years ago) link

this might be worth sending a CEO email about, what’s Tim’s handle again

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:02 (two years ago) link

Ugh you can’t buy an SE direct from Apple anymore, fuckin whatever dude.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:04 (two years ago) link

no new macbook air?!?

:_(

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:07 (two years ago) link

sounds like they discontinued the SE

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:07 (two years ago) link

Macs TK

I honestly feel nothing for any products Apple makes these days, I’m not mad or anything it’s all just at a stable equilibrium and design differentiators are basically impossible, since all anyone wants is things built on the same lines as the products Apple introduced 2003-2007. They are still dragging their heels on a MacBook based on an Apple-designed ARM SoC and that irritates me a bit.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:11 (two years ago) link

Shit, maybe I better grab one before it's too late. My 5s will be 5 years old in December. xp

WmC, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:19 (two years ago) link

Price drop on “obsolete “ phones always welcome after an announcement

calstars, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:19 (two years ago) link

Ok, so there's no longer going to be any retail model available with a headphone jack? I guess this really will be my last iphone.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:39 (two years ago) link

either that or I invest in a good lightning DAC and just deal with the annoying bulk, I guesss

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:41 (two years ago) link

lol Apple now offering 7 different models at the same time

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1039962912805330944/sYRoV1Zg?format=jpg&name=600x314

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:46 (two years ago) link

hell yeah steve jobs would be proud

What customer is targeted by having a larger iphone 8 at $699 vs a same-size iPhone XR at $50 more?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:49 (two years ago) link

They’re basically admitting nobody gives a shit about the phone hardware anymore. It’s just a collection of price points

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:50 (two years ago) link

I keep thinking "this is finally the release where people sour on Apple" and then their stock price doubles again.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:51 (two years ago) link

xxp people who can't deal w/o a home button or hate the notch

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:53 (two years ago) link

Imagine what Steve Jobs would say about the "I Phone Ten XS Max."

http://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2012/11/Screen-Shot-2018-04-11-at-10.39.01-AM.png

DJI, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:59 (two years ago) link

love how they used the planet image on the newer and pricier options so it's juuuuuust out of the way of the notch, attempting to fool us into believing maybe it's not there.

getting the max tho obv. my 6+ did it's job for four years.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:14 (two years ago) link

Literally bought an 8 yesterday fuck

gbx, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 21:07 (two years ago) link

512 gb Max is $1449
LOLOLOL

calstars, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:08 (two years ago) link

increments increments increments

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:22 (two years ago) link

no I'm asking if I should install Catalina

lukas, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:44 (one week ago) link

None that I can see except it’s purty

calstars, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:09 (one week ago) link

Installed Big Sur earlier today. Seems to be running smoothly on a 2019 iMac. Relieved not to have the Music app bug of early Catalina where it would be fetching artwork for hours. The only issue I've noticed so far is that Maps seems to take an incredibly long time to open.

The overall look seems not that different - unless i'm completely unobservant. There is a fairly useless control centre icon in the top right. I'm sure I'll have forgotten in a couple of days that the OS has changed.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:12 (one week ago) link

pro max just arrived...it's huuuuuge

calstars, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:03 (one week ago) link

Same here. It really is enormous. Amazing to read things on though, and camera is turning out to be miles better than the XS.

(I have seen a recurrence of an old bug from the first days of Live Photos where it makes the blur as you put the phone down into the key frame, though)

stet, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:04 (one week ago) link

High Sierra chugging along fine over here

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:16 (one week ago) link

Still on regular old Sierra on a 2014 mbp! Anything later fucks with the Nvidia card mine's got, supposedly.

Dan I., Friday, 13 November 2020 21:05 (one week ago) link

I hate Apple's harassing upgrade now notifications so much.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Friday, 13 November 2020 21:53 (one week ago) link

Sorry, half the software I says not to upgrade, you're gonna have to chill the fuck out Mr. Cook.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Friday, 13 November 2020 21:53 (one week ago) link

Went all in on Day One. I reformatted my Time Machine drives to APFS. Full backups really really fast now finally.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 13 November 2020 22:07 (one week ago) link

Are you backing up to SSD or a spinning disc

lukas, Friday, 13 November 2020 22:14 (one week ago) link

APFS is good yes

mh, Friday, 13 November 2020 23:02 (one week ago) link

lmao ok wow this OS is incredibly fugly

why is there so much ... empty space everywhere?

the late great, Friday, 13 November 2020 23:06 (one week ago) link

also they weirdly seem to have made half the stuff more skeumorphic and half the stuff less skeumorphic ... make up your damn mind!!

the late great, Friday, 13 November 2020 23:09 (one week ago) link

Snappin mad pix wit dis new cam

calstars, Friday, 13 November 2020 23:33 (one week ago) link

Are you backing up to SSD or a spinning disc

Spinning disk.

New UI is both good and bad. Dark mode looks great on a big monitor, empty and crowded simultaneously on something like Mail.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 14 November 2020 04:31 (one week ago) link

i don't know if i like it or not, but it's nice that the UX feels like it's getting some attention. reminds me a little of when os x first came out and jobs kept talking about how it was all 'lickable'. everything feels very candy-like.

re: skeumorphism i feel like they're trying to split the difference and it mainly works? i was never a fan of the entirely flat effect - like some schmindie casual mobile game graphics. the subtle shading makes the icons pop a little. it's more approachable and friendly imo.

very small font on mail subject lines in my inbox now! and i would love to get rid of 'favourite' mailboxes. i have it set up the way i like already, thanks - don't need you deciding what my favourites are.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 November 2020 17:58 (one week ago) link

Tomorrow’s forecast of rain portends an imminent installation of this candy azz sh1t

calstars, Saturday, 14 November 2020 18:47 (one week ago) link

would like a little less space overall but hey

mh, Sunday, 15 November 2020 03:10 (one week ago) link

Paused plans to buy the new MacBook Air until there’s a supported docker and some benchmarks of intel docker images.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 November 2020 15:59 (one week ago) link

I have a 13 year old 27” iMac and a 7-8 year old 17” Mac Book Pro. The iMac has a DVD drive. I still purchase physical media whenever possible.

Which would you upgrade first?

DJP, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:15 (one week ago) link

idk, depends what you want to do

could just get a sweet mbp and a decent monitor/external drive

mh, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:18 (one week ago) link

They made 27'' iMacs in 2007?

Nhex, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:20 (one week ago) link

I had a similar thought regarding the 17” m b p , which was last made in 2012

calstars, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:43 (one week ago) link

I have a 13 year old 27” iMac and a 7-8 year old 17” Mac Book Pro. The iMac has a DVD drive. I still purchase physical media whenever possible.

Which would you upgrade first?


Your preference for lol hueg computers!!!!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:52 (one week ago) link

iMac Pro is majestic, buy one.

lukas, Sunday, 15 November 2020 19:05 (one week ago) link

15yo daughter is constantly on at me to get her a Mac. I think it stems from a trip to a Cash Converters last year where she was amazed to see MacBooks for under £300 - but pretty sure they were Unibody 2011-12 refurbs. She's doing a lot of graphic design with Adobe Illustrator for school, and her entry-level W10 laptop can't hack it. (For all the remote learning this year, the school issued Chromebooks, but for Creative Cloud apps, the kids are on their own). Am I right in thinking she'd be seriously underwhelmed by what a 2012 Mac (esp one with less than 8GB RAM) can do with resource-hungry Adobe apps in 2020? Esp with a sub-FHD screen. Better off spending the money on a reasonably well-specced Windows laptop from the last couple of years?

Michael Jones, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:01 (one week ago) link

If I were an Adobe user I’d rather have one of those than anything else you could get for £300.

You might be able to upgrade the ram to 16gb yourself with a Philips head on Mac that old. Check ifixit.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:15 (one week ago) link

What kind of Adobe apps are we talking about. Lightroom and photoshop she’ll be fine. Rendering and video maybe not so much.

calstars, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:19 (one week ago) link

I have two daughters with very similar requirements. I've found that the retina MacBook Pros are the min spec (so, late 2012 for the 15", and late 2013 for the 13"), and for Adobe stuff, 8GB RAM is the bare minimum (it can't be upgraded in those models). Likewise a 256 GB SSD (although they can be upgraded if you are tech capable or can pay for it). Here in Aus I have found those for about £300 equivalent locally and on eBay, but had to be patient.
If you're searching through listings, anything with a CD drive in it is pre-retina. Anything older can't run the current OS (and probably not the current Adobe suite either). But 8GB/256GB is the minimum RAM and storage.

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:20 (one week ago) link

When my work desktop blew up I replaced it with a Lenovo laptop that was $500 (from Costco) - 15.4" screen, 9th gen core i7 processor, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM (user upgradeable, I think). Can't imagine a comparably valued Mac being remotely as useful.

The speakers suck, it's not a Retina screen (but still perfectly fine for using Photoshop and InDesign to make flyers and stuff) and the trackpad took some getting used to vs. Apple's - but OTOH, the keyboard is better and it has a number pad on the right hand side.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:30 (one week ago) link

I think she has access to some kind of shared Student All Apps plan, but hasn't installed more than Ai or Ps. Half-convinced most of her issues are down to just bloat and garbage on a laptop she's hammered for non-school stuff for several years (I did a regedit search for Amazon Assistant so I could properly uninstall it, and that immediately improved things). If a teenager's PC is like their bedroom, yada yada... I don't spend that much time with the girls, so it's hard to get to bottom of these things.

All her recent video editing she just, er, delegated to me in iMovie cos there wasn't a chance Prem Pro would run on her machine. (I have a mid-2015 MBP15R).

So, yeah, InDesign, Illustrator, Prem Pro, Photoshop, Lightroom, I guess? She's welcome to call upon my 12 years of experience of doing the same bloody thing to every photograph in Lr if she wants.

I was also thinking 2013- Retina w/8GB was minimum, and official reseller refurbs of those are £500+. That gets you an awful lot of 2018-19 W10 machine.

xxp

Michael Jones, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:39 (one week ago) link

Check the support situation. You’re right on the edge of macs that are too old to upgrade to Catalina, and Adobe no longer sells/supports some of their older pre Catalina versions.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:46 (one week ago) link

Several 13" at the right spec around £300 on eBay UK - if you buy thru PayPal you have some cover. Once they reach the retina era there are few moving parts to go wrong, but of course GPUs and batteries fail (not economical to replace either).
Elder daughter just upgraded to macOS 11 on her 2014 MBP13 (and the late 2013 is also able to) so there's a bit of life yet.

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:51 (one week ago) link

(and both are running Catalina, any retina machine can)

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:51 (one week ago) link

Good points, all - thanks.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:56 (one week ago) link

feeling like I should start an ilx classifieds to sell my 13” macbook pro that’s still reasonable

mh, Monday, 16 November 2020 03:22 (one week ago) link

this is a screenshot of part of my sidebar right now on big sur.

https://i.imgur.com/RnYZKAp.png

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:16 (one week ago) link

to be fair that's partially self-inflicted. i ran into permissions problems with superduper after installing. could not fix them. so i used disk utility to erase my external for a fresh backup. however, i didn't erase the 'volume group' - i erased the data volume of the overall external disk container. then i tried superduper again and somehow this happened.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:19 (one week ago) link

(i also have backblaze as a secondary backup for this volume, so don't worry, you paranoid backuppers!)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:21 (one week ago) link

Got my hands on a mini today and it seems more..user friendly than the pro max, which i returned as it’s just impossible to use one handed without feeling like my hands are in gym class doing calisthenics all day

calstars, Monday, 16 November 2020 23:29 (one week ago) link

Paused plans to buy the new MacBook Air until there’s a supported docker and some benchmarks of intel docker images.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, November 15, 2020 10:59 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

not inside docker, but these are good https://mjtsai.com/blog/2020/11/16/performance-of-rosetta-2-on-apple-m1/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:45 (six days ago) link

in Big Sur my Mail app decided to not show any windows. I tried everything to get it to display an inbox, a new message window, something. At one point I right-clicked on the dock icon and chose 'Show All Windows' and it kind of blurred most of the screen and displayed a message right in the middle that said 'No windows available'. Spooky shit! No, they weren't in another workspace. I restarted Mail, restarted the computer, still no windows. Eventually I hit on 'create new mailbox', which had the effect of jogging everything. I called it 'Adam'. I'm not sure who I had in mind. But once everything was back I deleted Adam. Sorry Adam.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:39 (six days ago) link

Here's another one. If I'm in another app and I click on the Mail icon in the Dock, it doesn't bring it to the front. The app name in the upper left corner doesn't change either.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:41 (six days ago) link

Ugh, Catalina is buggy enough for me, thanks.

DJI, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 00:13 (five days ago) link

catalina was fine for me!

have started using time machine though because superduper isn't compatible w big sur yet (TIL)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 00:46 (five days ago) link

I haven't noticed much with Big Sur, aside from rounded edges on everything. I don't want my pics to have rounded edges in filmstrip mode in Finder! Trivial stuff.
Funnily enough, I gave up on Mail years ago, and just went back to having pinned tabs in Safari for Yahoo/Gmail - but now, I've decided to re-link the accounts. Seems...ok?

I think I use my Mac in a clunky inefficient way anyway (if I wanted to launch something, Cmd+Space and start typing; if I want to switch apps, Cmd+Tab; Spaces and stuff are *there* but a bit lost on me).

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:59 (five days ago) link

that sounds pretty efficient, Steady Mike. sadly cmd-tab doesn’t work to bring my Mail to the front, either

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:08 (five days ago) link

It's all just muscle memory at this point. I feel sympathy for all my (very remote) Client Rep and Account Coordinator colleagues that we try to make work "more efficiently" with all our back-end dev and UI clean-up, and Zoom presentations and initiatives... and it all goes nowhere. Cos ppl like to do what they like to do, even if it involves swearing. About 10% are excited about the One Cool New Trick but most want to get through the day.

Anyway, *that* was a digression!

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:16 (five days ago) link

The 12 pro in silver looks really great, especially the edges, very latter day 3PO

calstars, Sunday, 22 November 2020 01:39 (yesterday) link


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