Star Trek Discovery: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

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Might as well give it its own thread. We got teaser trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpPweAooeE

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:22 (four years ago) link

Huh! I assumed it would be on the CW.

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:26 (four years ago) link

Nah, CBS is going all in to build their own private Hulu, and this show is going to be anchor for it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:28 (four years ago) link

Ugh I could not even watch that trailer - I guess I am too old.

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:37 (four years ago) link

Capt. Mads Mikkelsen or bust.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:15 (four years ago) link

fingers crossed but I am skeptical

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:26 (four years ago) link

hoping they'll go for mostly single-episode plots like old treks rather than just make another serial like every other major tv series these days

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:28 (four years ago) link

TV seems to have lost their touch - its all been downhill since Picard gave Mr Data his last rimjob

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:30 (four years ago) link

I've thought for a while that taking the "Far Beyond the Stars" conceit as real would've been amazing, though not exactly sustainable on a series-wide basis (i.e. that would've been a much better DS9 finale than what we got).

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:31 (four years ago) link

what does the startrekman have to say about all this

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:32 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

time to merge star trek and star wars and add in ALF

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:27 (four years ago) link

Hmm, well Paramount will probably sell the Trek to Disney once they are finally able to admit to themselves the glaringly-obvious fact that they're embarrassed to own the property, and I'm pretty sure ALF is a Muppet, so I think this has legs.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:52 (four years ago) link

you dont think wb would buy trek to keep the wb/disney battle going on a new front?

we should all delete our account (Will M.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:03 (four years ago) link

Interesting proposal, I look forward to the WB Trek movie where Spock drives an axe through Kirk's spinal column for no particular good reason other than that it's totally dark + extreme to the max.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:18 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I think they may reenvision ALF as CGI

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 15 July 2016 16:15 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

...looks like I should edit the thread title

http://tvline.com/2016/10/26/star-trek-discovery-bryan-fuller-showrunner-stepping-down/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 22:55 (four years ago) link

Oh great another Kurtzman-Goldsman joint. Because they did such a great job with Fringe.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:42 (four years ago) link

akiva goldsman's continued success is one of life's great mysteries

yokohama fuckdolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:58 (four years ago) link

oh c'mon, s2-4ish of Fringe were pretty good

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 October 2016 11:09 (four years ago) link

this is weird to me. why would fuller walk away from this because he 'doesn't have time'? clearly something must have been going wrong.

akm, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:15 (four years ago) link

I hear he wants to spend more time with his family.

Wikipedia Brown and the Case of the Incomplete Filmography (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:27 (four years ago) link

season 3 of fringe was pretty good. then kurtzman & orci demanded a dumb cliffhanger and the show never recovered.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:30 (four years ago) link

Trek has always had a mix of inspired weirdos and hacks, I feel like it benefits from that.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:33 (four years ago) link

Fuller's working on at least two other tv series, including American Gods. If the Paramount people kept meddling and were an irritating presence, it'd be a good reason to bail.

mh 😏, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:00 (four years ago) link

He's still writing/plotting at least

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:39 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/14/13962170/star-trek-discovery-lead-walking-dead

Sonequa Martin-Green will play the lead (the XO of Discovery).

Should we change this thread title?

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:08 (three years ago) link

I'm not going to believe this show is happening until there's an actual pilot date.

Bianca Smell BO (Leee), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:32 (three years ago) link

Should we change this thread title?
to:
Sasha Deathwatch

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:24 (three years ago) link

It's funny how much she looks like a younger Angela Bassett who had been tipped to be in the series.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:27 (three years ago) link

wasn't there a rumor they were doing an anthology series with a different timeframe/cast each season? hmm.

mh 😏, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:48 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Well this is still taking forever. I will however happily back this:

https://tvline.com/2017/03/31/star-trek-discovery-rainn-wilson-harry-mudd-cbs-all-access/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:52 (three years ago) link

lol I watched the original Mudd ep the other night w my daughter and the entire time I was distracted by the highly visible shaving line all around Carmel's neck.

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:56 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Fucking hell it's tomorrow

I have concerns but I really *want* it to be good

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 23 September 2017 17:43 (three years ago) link

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:02 (three years ago) link

It's on Netflix in the UK and a bunch of other countries

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:22 (three years ago) link

A few reviews have slipped through the embargo and been decent

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:23 (three years ago) link

This should be worth a flyer just for more Michelle Yeoh.

Insane Clown Fosse (Leee), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:27 (three years ago) link

I'm sorry, I misunderstood: CBS is only airing the first half of the two hour pilot on actual TV. Fun idea.

Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:51 (three years ago) link

If they streamed it only on the CBS app but allowed digital purchases on amazon, itunes, etc. it'd make more sense. but, afaik, they are making it only available on the CBS app

so irritating, I'd shell out for the entire season purchase even if it trickles out a week at a time as per usual

mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:48 (three years ago) link

i'll probably wait until next year and stream the whole season then. or find "other ways" that will appear soon, i'm sure

Nhex, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:00 (three years ago) link

I just did the free CBS trial on my tv device, but I guess it doesn't air until tonight? boo

mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:22 (three years ago) link

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

― Señor Winces (Old Lunch)

yeah i mean i know game of thrones seems to do ok and all but i'm not sure why directly adopting a piracy-based business model is cbs's schtick here

anyway when the streaming service fails they'll probably just toss it to another streaming service. doesn't necessarily doom the show.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:48 (three years ago) link

Phase II - proposed for Paramount Television Service, a fourth US network
Voyager (1995-2001), Enterprise (2001-2005) - designed to support UPN (1995-2006)

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:56 (three years ago) link

nice ship -- too bad they haven't invented probes yet and have to send their first officer into lethal radiation

mookieproof, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:00 (three years ago) link

this was fun but fuck CBS for making me watch a thousand NAVY SEALS promos and then asking for money to keep watching

El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:15 (three years ago) link

points for having the main plot thread be about a black woman trying to tell everybody "no really, they're going to kill all of us" and being shouted down

El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:17 (three years ago) link

cbs has consistently been tightassed with digital access to its programming since the tv-web boom, it's annoying

j., Monday, 25 September 2017 03:20 (three years ago) link

Enjoying this!

First question: how can I get one of those dope uniforms

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 04:42 (three years ago) link

We signed up for free trial - canceled after 2nd ep & got a month free so 4 more episodes

But seriously $6 for 1 original show and commercials is a joke. $10 if you want commercial free? Eat a dick

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:20 (three years ago) link

so if they write some proper Trek stories it could be good

Big if imo.

So buttons. (Leee), Friday, 15 May 2020 20:22 (five months ago) link

lol i don't think i'm gonna continue. i kinda like the doctor, though -- he's chipper but not in a way that invites murder (unlike neelix)

i'm told the vulcan lady gets the pon farr, despite it being non-canon for females

just some extremely horny showrunning

mookieproof, Friday, 15 May 2020 20:27 (five months ago) link

aw i liked it!!!

j., Friday, 15 May 2020 20:56 (five months ago) link

whole lot of standing around in decontamination showers in underwear iirc

mh, Friday, 15 May 2020 21:05 (five months ago) link

Pretty excited about Pike Trek. Hope it's more optimistic and episodic, but not holding my breath.

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 16 May 2020 02:46 (five months ago) link

hope there are lots of worlds

j., Saturday, 16 May 2020 04:41 (five months ago) link

They won't be able to resist making half of them other Earths

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 16 May 2020 04:48 (five months ago) link

My household is excited for more Rebecca Romijn as Number One

silby, Saturday, 16 May 2020 05:21 (five months ago) link

Pretty sure that's her name, i.e. Lt. Commander Number One.

So buttons. (Leee), Saturday, 16 May 2020 06:20 (five months ago) link

would you take a beagle on a submarine

Crimson Tide to thread

stet, Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:38 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

hello i am 10 episodes into season 2 and here are my thoughts

1. Captain Pike forever

2. Could watch Michael & Spock play go-fuck-yourself-space-chess forever

3. Did it need to take EIGHT episodes to find Spock? Seriously, that drove me round the bend. But maybe I’m just impatient, the leadup episodes were decent.

4. Can we make Michelle Yeoh fight more? I love her so much

5. TALOS IV!!!!!!! So great.

6. Captain Pike forever. Also down with this Spock. Bring on the spinoff because I am so down with these two actors.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 05:18 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

Disco 3 premiere is the sappiest thing I've seen in a while, and I loved it. Stoned Michael is a lot of fun.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this season in that it hopefully won't be as beholden to established canon as it's been in the first two seasons (and which Picard suggested from, too), which seemed like they were overcompensating (natch) for something and had to prove they were real Trek by throwing in as many references to previous series, instead of working on e.g. better world building. Interestingly, Lower Decks manages to drop a ton of references while both creating its own identity and training an undeniably Trek ethos.

I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Saturday, 17 October 2020 21:43 (two weeks ago) link

haha yes more stoned michael

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 October 2020 22:03 (two weeks ago) link

otm

she has the BEST reactions

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 October 2020 22:40 (two weeks ago) link

One bit where she's hiding behind a pillar, pops out to take a shot, pops back and has this "....fuckin rite!?" look/grin that made me and B crack up.

It was a good episode! Wish they hadnt called that guy Book though, thats Firefly's thing!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 17 October 2020 23:00 (two weeks ago) link

I was a bit thrown because he played exactly the same character with his "strong Manchester accent" in Supergirl last season.

But much more Stoned Michael please.

pedantly admonishment (aldo), Saturday, 17 October 2020 23:20 (two weeks ago) link

I kind of agree with the AV Club's complaint that Discovery is too focused on Michael. But I also very much enjoyed stoned Michael. I've never seen Sonequa Martin-Green smile so much.

trishyb, Sunday, 18 October 2020 11:19 (one week ago) link

Hopefully they keep playing with that now that she’s far away from any Vulcans

mh, Sunday, 18 October 2020 15:15 (one week ago) link

Good episode. My expectations for the season remain low, given how S2 and Picard S1 turned out.

wasdnous (abanana), Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:48 (one week ago) link

S2 was good idk why everyone rags on it

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:11 (one week ago) link

Season 2 was great! Picard was naff but I enjoyed it regardless

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:51 (one week ago) link

yeah i didnt like Picard that much

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:32 (one week ago) link

weird that phasers seem to be less effective in the future

mookieproof, Friday, 23 October 2020 16:15 (one week ago) link

They seemed to work well in the first episode

I got the impression the second episode guy just had the power cranked way low because he’s a sadist who likes microwaving people

mh, Friday, 23 October 2020 16:48 (one week ago) link

yeah that was my take too

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 October 2020 17:01 (one week ago) link

ah

mookieproof, Friday, 23 October 2020 19:03 (one week ago) link

Two decent episodes in a row! And Kurtzman is a credited writer on both, whaaaaaat

wasdnous (abanana), Saturday, 24 October 2020 00:26 (one week ago) link

i know it’s been said before but i really love Tig Notaro in this

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 October 2020 00:44 (one week ago) link

she's great but is never going to escape the B story, unfortunately

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 October 2020 01:42 (one week ago) link

appreciate the weirdo security officer with the breathing orthodontics much more after hearing her canadian accent

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 October 2020 04:47 (one week ago) link

Getting through S2 but I do not like dirty indie rock boy Spock.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 04:57 (one week ago) link

how dare u

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 October 2020 05:00 (one week ago) link

I don't want my Vulcans to hit me up for an American Spirit.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 05:01 (one week ago) link

btw is detmer possessed or did she just have an undiagnosable concussion we will never hear of again

still pretty cute tho; good pilot

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 October 2020 05:10 (one week ago) link

i reckon so? seems like part of her robot hardware went kerflooey & obv left allthat hanging for a later murderous fugue to come idk

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 October 2020 05:17 (one week ago) link

would fugue

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 October 2020 05:27 (one week ago) link

lol rmde

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 October 2020 05:28 (one week ago) link

fair

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 October 2020 05:28 (one week ago) link

I am enjoying Discovery - it's very exciting, and the production values are through the roof... but it still is not really trek to me, and pretty evident that the producers of the show will never care about that. I was skeptical about Lower Decks but it plays more like a classic Star Trek show than anything they've put out since Discovery started.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:36 (one week ago) link

my theory as to why burnham had longer hair in the promo photos was right!

mh, Saturday, 24 October 2020 17:47 (one week ago) link

Teenage genius queen rules

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 25 October 2020 05:18 (six days ago) link

but it still is not really trek to me

i understand what you're saying, but i don't think it's fair at all. there have been literally 700+ episodes of star trek even before this one started; merely to find something new to say is an accomplishment.

discovery at least adheres to the prime directive far more than kirk ever did.

and for people complaining about too much burnham, georgiou is the real star. starfleet dorks are entirely predictable but yeoh is not

mookieproof, Sunday, 25 October 2020 05:42 (six days ago) link

handy that georgiou showed up to take out the bad guy by (checks notes) pushing a stool towards him. and that his henchmen stood around waiting their turn to be taken out. and they didn't have backup waiting or personal shields or anything so they could just be shot by regular phasers, like the miners had all along. probably not going to get any explanation of the lumps of rock hanging in the sky with 20th century bucket wheel excavators on them either. it's cool though! i'm enjoying it!

neith moon (ledge), Sunday, 25 October 2020 20:45 (six days ago) link

I mean that the emphasis is on big budget action movie spectacle more than anything else, and once again I just don't think the season-long arcs work well. Picard was much the same way. Like I said, it's enjoyable - if I didn't think it was worth anything I'd ignore it.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:33 (five days ago) link

Yeah, S2 finale felt more like the climax of a Marvel movie than Star Trek. A million things buzzing around shooting and explosions and I tuned it out pretty much the same way I tune out at climactic Avengers battles.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 26 October 2020 15:53 (five days ago) link

Think the 2nd episode might have been one of the best so far? It’s the first time I’ve felt like all the crew clicked, I wanted to be in their company, and find out more about the background characters. Also Michael wasn’t in it much.

There are still some annoying bits of faux-adultness (the OTT sexual threats from the baddie, the unnecessary gore) that put me in mind of bad Torchwood episodes and seem tonally off-the-mark for Trek. And the fannish veneration for the Federation (last week they literally finished by saluting a flag, which was gross) is shading a bit Robert Heinlein for me.

BUT! Otherwise this was a fun hang-out episode with some cool sci-fi and zings and mild threat, which is totally my fave kind of Trek.

Hopefully Michael’s new hair signals a Rikers-third-season-beard-style change in fortune

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 October 2020 20:09 (five days ago) link

Plus the third episode is directed by Frakes

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 26 October 2020 20:50 (five days ago) link

Much as I love him I’m not sure he is a... good director? A little overfond of studenty Dutch angles

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 October 2020 21:33 (five days ago) link

I forgot to mention that Detmer is dollars to warp bubbles infected by a Control remnant.

I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Monday, 26 October 2020 21:37 (five days ago) link

Very promising episode!

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 30 October 2020 06:49 (yesterday) link


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