Star Trek: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

Might as well give it its own thread. We got teaser trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpPweAooeE

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Huh! I assumed it would be on the CW.

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Nah, CBS is going all in to build their own private Hulu, and this show is going to be anchor for it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Ugh I could not even watch that trailer - I guess I am too old.

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:37 (one year ago) Permalink

Capt. Mads Mikkelsen or bust.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:15 (one year ago) Permalink

fingers crossed but I am skeptical

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:26 (one year ago) Permalink

hoping they'll go for mostly single-episode plots like old treks rather than just make another serial like every other major tv series these days

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:28 (one year ago) Permalink

TV seems to have lost their touch - its all been downhill since Picard gave Mr Data his last rimjob

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:30 (one year ago) Permalink

I've thought for a while that taking the "Far Beyond the Stars" conceit as real would've been amazing, though not exactly sustainable on a series-wide basis (i.e. that would've been a much better DS9 finale than what we got).

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:31 (one year ago) Permalink

what does the startrekman have to say about all this

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:32 (one year ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

time to merge star trek and star wars and add in ALF

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Hmm, well Paramount will probably sell the Trek to Disney once they are finally able to admit to themselves the glaringly-obvious fact that they're embarrassed to own the property, and I'm pretty sure ALF is a Muppet, so I think this has legs.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:52 (one year ago) Permalink

you dont think wb would buy trek to keep the wb/disney battle going on a new front?

we should all delete our account (Will M.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Interesting proposal, I look forward to the WB Trek movie where Spock drives an axe through Kirk's spinal column for no particular good reason other than that it's totally dark + extreme to the max.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:18 (one year ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

I think they may reenvision ALF as CGI

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 15 July 2016 16:15 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

...looks like I should edit the thread title

http://tvline.com/2016/10/26/star-trek-discovery-bryan-fuller-showrunner-stepping-down/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 22:55 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh great another Kurtzman-Goldsman joint. Because they did such a great job with Fringe.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:42 (one year ago) Permalink

akiva goldsman's continued success is one of life's great mysteries

yokohama fuckdolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:58 (one year ago) Permalink

oh c'mon, s2-4ish of Fringe were pretty good

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 October 2016 11:09 (one year ago) Permalink

this is weird to me. why would fuller walk away from this because he 'doesn't have time'? clearly something must have been going wrong.

akm, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:15 (one year ago) Permalink

I hear he wants to spend more time with his family.

Wikipedia Brown and the Case of the Incomplete Filmography (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:27 (one year ago) Permalink

season 3 of fringe was pretty good. then kurtzman & orci demanded a dumb cliffhanger and the show never recovered.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Trek has always had a mix of inspired weirdos and hacks, I feel like it benefits from that.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Fuller's working on at least two other tv series, including American Gods. If the Paramount people kept meddling and were an irritating presence, it'd be a good reason to bail.

mh 😏, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:00 (one year ago) Permalink

He's still writing/plotting at least

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:39 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/14/13962170/star-trek-discovery-lead-walking-dead

Sonequa Martin-Green will play the lead (the XO of Discovery).

Should we change this thread title?

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:08 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm not going to believe this show is happening until there's an actual pilot date.

Bianca Smell BO (Leee), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Should we change this thread title?
to:
Sasha Deathwatch

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:24 (one year ago) Permalink

It's funny how much she looks like a younger Angela Bassett who had been tipped to be in the series.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:27 (one year ago) Permalink

wasn't there a rumor they were doing an anthology series with a different timeframe/cast each season? hmm.

mh 😏, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:48 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Well this is still taking forever. I will however happily back this:

https://tvline.com/2017/03/31/star-trek-discovery-rainn-wilson-harry-mudd-cbs-all-access/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol I watched the original Mudd ep the other night w my daughter and the entire time I was distracted by the highly visible shaving line all around Carmel's neck.

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Fucking hell it's tomorrow

I have concerns but I really *want* it to be good

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 23 September 2017 17:43 (three months ago) Permalink

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:02 (three months ago) Permalink

It's on Netflix in the UK and a bunch of other countries

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:22 (three months ago) Permalink

A few reviews have slipped through the embargo and been decent

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:23 (three months ago) Permalink

This should be worth a flyer just for more Michelle Yeoh.

Insane Clown Fosse (Leee), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:27 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm sorry, I misunderstood: CBS is only airing the first half of the two hour pilot on actual TV. Fun idea.

Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:51 (three months ago) Permalink

If they streamed it only on the CBS app but allowed digital purchases on amazon, itunes, etc. it'd make more sense. but, afaik, they are making it only available on the CBS app

so irritating, I'd shell out for the entire season purchase even if it trickles out a week at a time as per usual

mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:48 (three months ago) Permalink

i'll probably wait until next year and stream the whole season then. or find "other ways" that will appear soon, i'm sure

Nhex, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:00 (three months ago) Permalink

I just did the free CBS trial on my tv device, but I guess it doesn't air until tonight? boo

mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:22 (three months ago) Permalink

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

― Señor Winces (Old Lunch)

yeah i mean i know game of thrones seems to do ok and all but i'm not sure why directly adopting a piracy-based business model is cbs's schtick here

anyway when the streaming service fails they'll probably just toss it to another streaming service. doesn't necessarily doom the show.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:48 (three months ago) Permalink

Phase II - proposed for Paramount Television Service, a fourth US network
Voyager (1995-2001), Enterprise (2001-2005) - designed to support UPN (1995-2006)

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:56 (three months ago) Permalink

nice ship -- too bad they haven't invented probes yet and have to send their first officer into lethal radiation

mookieproof, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:00 (three months ago) Permalink

this was fun but fuck CBS for making me watch a thousand NAVY SEALS promos and then asking for money to keep watching

El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:15 (three months ago) Permalink

points for having the main plot thread be about a black woman trying to tell everybody "no really, they're going to kill all of us" and being shouted down

El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:17 (three months ago) Permalink

cbs has consistently been tightassed with digital access to its programming since the tv-web boom, it's annoying

j., Monday, 25 September 2017 03:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Enjoying this!

First question: how can I get one of those dope uniforms

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 04:42 (three months ago) Permalink

We signed up for free trial - canceled after 2nd ep & got a month free so 4 more episodes

But seriously $6 for 1 original show and commercials is a joke. $10 if you want commercial free? Eat a dick

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Who am I kidding, the torture-sex scenes have already sent it over the edge

It would be wild if - assuming they could ever get back to 'their' universe - Discovery instead of a weapon-to-end-wars became the ultimate research vessel, collecting information on how things turn out elsewhere given certain choices. They'd have to rename the ship the A/B Discovery or the USS Choice Architecture

Brakhage, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 19:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Now I'm really wondering why they call the Prime Directive "General Order 1".

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 23:06 (one month ago) Permalink

That's what they called it in TOS, IIRC.

Entree 3000 (Leee), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 23:22 (one month ago) Permalink

if tilly is going to be working on starfleet's most important system, she really needs a promotion

even wesley got acting ensign

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 00:08 (one month ago) Permalink

definitely going to get a “Tilly steps up” plot in here somewhere, where she steps up in some dire circumstance and her awkwardness is cast off

mh, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:02 (one month ago) Permalink

xpost

Memory Alpha says "General Order 1" is actually from The Animated Series - nice.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:11 (one month ago) Permalink

They’ve made other refs to the Animated series, too

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 06:59 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Fun episode with one genuine shock (although as they're now in an alternate universe I imagine it will be fairly easy to bring him back)

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 08:38 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm enjoyjng this but a Michael is getting a little boring.

The "shock" was interesting - I would've thought the writers were smarter than that trope, so I'm guessing that's not the end of that story.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 09:29 (one week ago) Permalink

I think I should have seen it coming when the episode had me thinking, "Wow, this character is maybe the most empathetic character we've seen in this role on Star Trek, what a great guy"

mh, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:28 (one week ago) Permalink

I should have guessed, all spontaneous declarations of love for a partner must be followed by death.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 16:17 (one week ago) Permalink

It's a little unnerving to see out of all the spinoffs, Enterprise is the one that is being mined for the most material to weave canon out of. Maybe we'll get to see evil Porthos cameo.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:02 (one week ago) Permalink

Ashhole amirite?

Kirk Cobain (Leee), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 03:00 (one week ago) Permalink

It's a little unnerving to see out of all the spinoffs, Enterprise is the one that is being mined for the most material to weave canon out of. Maybe we'll get to see evil Porthos cameo.

Maybe WE'RE the ones in the mirror universe.

Kirk Cobain (Leee), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 03:02 (one week ago) Permalink

no midriff mirror universe uniforms yet so may it’s changed over there

mh, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 03:40 (one week ago) Permalink

It's nice to see Frakes directed this, IMHO his is the first Trek name to have been associated with a good series.

Kirk Cobain (Leee), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 04:08 (one week ago) Permalink

Oops, forgot Nick Meyer.

Kirk Cobain (Leee), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 04:31 (one week ago) Permalink

he went a little overboard on the camera-circling-everyone thing

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 06:05 (one week ago) Permalink

The camera NEVER STOPPED

Static locked down shots don’t exist anymore

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 06:36 (one week ago) Permalink

I know the agony booths were in TOS, but the lingering over Lorca's pain felt like another example of the show's being EXTREME and EDGY and GRIMDARK. File it with the most painful way to suicide bomb, the most painful possible gun disintegration, and the warp engine booth that tortures the occupant.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Similar to a comment made in the RLM vid on Abrams’ approach to the ‘09 reboot. Everything must be HYPERCHARGED.

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:29 (one week ago) Permalink

I’m curious how a TOS/Constitution-class ship looks rendered in the particular art direction of this show, esp with the lighting.

Here’s what it looked like 15 years ago:

http://www.treksinscifi.com/trekdaily/pictures/2010-04-23_Defiant.jpg

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:32 (one week ago) Permalink

the lingering over Lorca's pain felt like another example of the show's being EXTREME and EDGY and GRIMDARK

Yeah, you'd think that the show would've outgrown its Oedipal impulses by now, but maybe they feel that a midseason premiere required them to reassert the GRIMDARK.

Similar to a comment made in the RLM vid on Abrams’ approach to the ‘09 reboot. Everything must be HYPERCHARGED.

I think with JJ, he may have been overcompensating because he wasn't that familiar with Trek prior to getting the franchise.

Kirk Cobain (Leee), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Next step in L'Rell's master plan: get Burnham's answers to her security questions.

Kirk Cobain (Leee), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:20 (one week ago) Permalink

some viewers were upset that the asian captain gets killed/the black woman gets court martialed/the female admiral gets tortured/the gay guy gets killed*/etc., so it seems only fair that the white guy gets a little agony booth

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:31 (one week ago) Permalink

he does have the pre-existing messed up vision. definitely a problem in the terran empire, where insurance is absolutely brutal

mh, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:38 (one week ago) Permalink

I’m curious how a TOS/Constitution-class ship looks rendered in the particular art direction of this show, esp with the lighting.

maybe aztec'd like this:
http://deg3d.biz/posts/deg3D_NCC-1701_112.jpg

and lit like this:
http://deg3d.biz/desktops_art_SOMS.html

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:01 (one week ago) Permalink

whoops:
http://deg3d.biz/images/deg3D_TOS.5_E_SOMS_1956.jpg

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:02 (one week ago) Permalink

There was a 3d wireframe of one on the show this week that had a kink in the engine struts, but otherwise looked similar.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:03 (one week ago) Permalink

https://imgur.com/a/zc0K1

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:07 (one week ago) Permalink

guh

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:07 (one week ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/jKQCGnV.jpg

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:08 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, thats what made me think of it. Every other ship in the show is “darkshiney” as it were, so I’m wondering what they’ll do to the usual battleship grey exterior

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:55 (one week ago) Permalink

So I guess everyone who predicted the Ash thing was right eh?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:52 (four days ago) Permalink

(awesome episode btw)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:53 (four days ago) Permalink

Sarek was right there! How could have scanned the dude after he freaked out!

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:53 (four days ago) Permalink

Yeah that occurred to me as well! But I guess there was more urgent "hey dont kill us" standoff going on.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:05 (four days ago) Permalink

a mind meld can be dangerous

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:05 (four days ago) Permalink

I honestly didnt see the 'how they got the data' trick coming at all either, so that pleased me a lot.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:05 (four days ago) Permalink

I think generally a mind meld is pretty risky if the other party isn’t willing, so it’d be a bad idea

mh, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:23 (four days ago) Permalink

Spock was pretty cavalier about melding with anything that moves.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 02:43 (three days ago) Permalink

first mind meld episode had it be dangerous. afterwards they did it willy nilly.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 04:22 (three days ago) Permalink

Willy nilly...Tilly...Killy?! This is a clue!

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 07:05 (three days ago) Permalink

Best episode yet. Hopefully a sign of whatever shift the show underwent.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:49 (two days ago) Permalink

I wonder if there were a bunch of Klingon segments planned for each episode that they just cut out.

adam the (abanana), Friday, 19 January 2018 04:09 (yesterday) Permalink

i'm such a newbie trekkie that i didn't realize that the depiction of the empire was canon. i thought it was something disco came up with. welp, off to watch the two ENT episodes i skipped

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Friday, 19 January 2018 15:32 (yesterday) Permalink

In my head Yesterday's Enterprise is a mirror universe episode, I only just realised it's a regular old parallel universe

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 19 January 2018 15:49 (yesterday) Permalink

they have some common structure, the biggest reveal is "so who is the Emperor THIS time?"

mh, Friday, 19 January 2018 16:01 (yesterday) Permalink

Man, I thought this episode was kind of a dud. None of the people who were supposed to be menacing or dangerous came off that way. Also, the episode felt overburdened with Burnham (overburnhamed?) -- I actually got tired of hearing SMG's voice, especially when she was playing Evil Mirror her.

I thought that two SF guards would still be easy for a Klingon-reduced-to-a-human to overpower.

Faceless Emperor didn't stay faceless for long!

Was Burnham's original plan on the rebel planet to stick around for the hour to make sure that they were able to evac, under the guise that she's still infiltrating, then explain that when Ashhole got activated, they couldn't stay on the surface any longer and HAD to return to the Shengzhou. Did they just not mention it onscreen? That would've made a lot more sense than just beaming out and hoping that she'd be able to keep her crew from firing on the planet. Though I guess that would've meant that Burnham and Tyler would've been smoked when Faceless Emperor swoops in and razes the planet.

I'm glad that Stamets at some level gets to be coherent again -- I was worried that Anthony Rapp would spend a lot more time being semi-catatonic.

I'll admit to being tickled by Sarek's goatee.

I mean, uh, you know what I mean.

Kirk Cobain (Leee), Friday, 19 January 2018 19:09 (yesterday) Permalink


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.