Star Trek: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

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Might as well give it its own thread. We got teaser trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpPweAooeE

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:22 (two years ago) Permalink

Huh! I assumed it would be on the CW.

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:26 (two years ago) Permalink

Nah, CBS is going all in to build their own private Hulu, and this show is going to be anchor for it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:28 (two years ago) Permalink

Ugh I could not even watch that trailer - I guess I am too old.

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:37 (two years ago) Permalink

Capt. Mads Mikkelsen or bust.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:15 (two years ago) Permalink

fingers crossed but I am skeptical

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:26 (two years ago) Permalink

hoping they'll go for mostly single-episode plots like old treks rather than just make another serial like every other major tv series these days

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:28 (two years ago) Permalink

TV seems to have lost their touch - its all been downhill since Picard gave Mr Data his last rimjob

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:30 (two years ago) Permalink

I've thought for a while that taking the "Far Beyond the Stars" conceit as real would've been amazing, though not exactly sustainable on a series-wide basis (i.e. that would've been a much better DS9 finale than what we got).

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:31 (two years ago) Permalink

what does the startrekman have to say about all this

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:32 (two years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

time to merge star trek and star wars and add in ALF

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:27 (two years ago) Permalink

Hmm, well Paramount will probably sell the Trek to Disney once they are finally able to admit to themselves the glaringly-obvious fact that they're embarrassed to own the property, and I'm pretty sure ALF is a Muppet, so I think this has legs.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:52 (two years ago) Permalink

you dont think wb would buy trek to keep the wb/disney battle going on a new front?

we should all delete our account (Will M.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:03 (two years ago) Permalink

Interesting proposal, I look forward to the WB Trek movie where Spock drives an axe through Kirk's spinal column for no particular good reason other than that it's totally dark + extreme to the max.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:18 (two years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

I think they may reenvision ALF as CGI

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 15 July 2016 16:15 (two years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

...looks like I should edit the thread title

http://tvline.com/2016/10/26/star-trek-discovery-bryan-fuller-showrunner-stepping-down/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 22:55 (two years ago) Permalink

Oh great another Kurtzman-Goldsman joint. Because they did such a great job with Fringe.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:42 (two years ago) Permalink

akiva goldsman's continued success is one of life's great mysteries

yokohama fuckdolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:58 (two years ago) Permalink

oh c'mon, s2-4ish of Fringe were pretty good

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 October 2016 11:09 (two years ago) Permalink

this is weird to me. why would fuller walk away from this because he 'doesn't have time'? clearly something must have been going wrong.

akm, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:15 (two years ago) Permalink

I hear he wants to spend more time with his family.

Wikipedia Brown and the Case of the Incomplete Filmography (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:27 (two years ago) Permalink

season 3 of fringe was pretty good. then kurtzman & orci demanded a dumb cliffhanger and the show never recovered.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:30 (two years ago) Permalink

Trek has always had a mix of inspired weirdos and hacks, I feel like it benefits from that.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:33 (two years ago) Permalink

Fuller's working on at least two other tv series, including American Gods. If the Paramount people kept meddling and were an irritating presence, it'd be a good reason to bail.

mh 😏, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:00 (two years ago) Permalink

He's still writing/plotting at least

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:39 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/14/13962170/star-trek-discovery-lead-walking-dead

Sonequa Martin-Green will play the lead (the XO of Discovery).

Should we change this thread title?

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:08 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm not going to believe this show is happening until there's an actual pilot date.

Bianca Smell BO (Leee), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:32 (two years ago) Permalink

Should we change this thread title?
to:
Sasha Deathwatch

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:24 (two years ago) Permalink

It's funny how much she looks like a younger Angela Bassett who had been tipped to be in the series.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:27 (two years ago) Permalink

wasn't there a rumor they were doing an anthology series with a different timeframe/cast each season? hmm.

mh 😏, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:48 (two years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Well this is still taking forever. I will however happily back this:

https://tvline.com/2017/03/31/star-trek-discovery-rainn-wilson-harry-mudd-cbs-all-access/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:52 (one year ago) Permalink

lol I watched the original Mudd ep the other night w my daughter and the entire time I was distracted by the highly visible shaving line all around Carmel's neck.

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:56 (one year ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Fucking hell it's tomorrow

I have concerns but I really *want* it to be good

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 23 September 2017 17:43 (one year ago) Permalink

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:02 (one year ago) Permalink

It's on Netflix in the UK and a bunch of other countries

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:22 (one year ago) Permalink

A few reviews have slipped through the embargo and been decent

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:23 (one year ago) Permalink

This should be worth a flyer just for more Michelle Yeoh.

Insane Clown Fosse (Leee), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:27 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm sorry, I misunderstood: CBS is only airing the first half of the two hour pilot on actual TV. Fun idea.

Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:51 (one year ago) Permalink

If they streamed it only on the CBS app but allowed digital purchases on amazon, itunes, etc. it'd make more sense. but, afaik, they are making it only available on the CBS app

so irritating, I'd shell out for the entire season purchase even if it trickles out a week at a time as per usual

mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:48 (one year ago) Permalink

i'll probably wait until next year and stream the whole season then. or find "other ways" that will appear soon, i'm sure

Nhex, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:00 (one year ago) Permalink

I just did the free CBS trial on my tv device, but I guess it doesn't air until tonight? boo

mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:22 (one year ago) Permalink

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

― Señor Winces (Old Lunch)

yeah i mean i know game of thrones seems to do ok and all but i'm not sure why directly adopting a piracy-based business model is cbs's schtick here

anyway when the streaming service fails they'll probably just toss it to another streaming service. doesn't necessarily doom the show.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:48 (one year ago) Permalink

Phase II - proposed for Paramount Television Service, a fourth US network
Voyager (1995-2001), Enterprise (2001-2005) - designed to support UPN (1995-2006)

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:56 (one year ago) Permalink

nice ship -- too bad they haven't invented probes yet and have to send their first officer into lethal radiation

mookieproof, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:00 (one year ago) Permalink

this was fun but fuck CBS for making me watch a thousand NAVY SEALS promos and then asking for money to keep watching

El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:15 (one year ago) Permalink

points for having the main plot thread be about a black woman trying to tell everybody "no really, they're going to kill all of us" and being shouted down

El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:17 (one year ago) Permalink

cbs has consistently been tightassed with digital access to its programming since the tv-web boom, it's annoying

j., Monday, 25 September 2017 03:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Enjoying this!

First question: how can I get one of those dope uniforms

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 04:42 (one year ago) Permalink

We signed up for free trial - canceled after 2nd ep & got a month free so 4 more episodes

But seriously $6 for 1 original show and commercials is a joke. $10 if you want commercial free? Eat a dick

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:20 (one year ago) Permalink

lol @ "agreeably metal" I'd forgot about the severed baby head part :/

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2019 22:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

When I stroke the beard, thusly

Dan I., Tuesday, 5 February 2019 02:56 (one week ago) Permalink

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— Jason Isaacs (@jasonsfolly) February 5, 2019

groovypanda, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 10:25 (one week ago) Permalink

Jet Reno!

groovypanda, Friday, 8 February 2019 21:59 (one week ago) Permalink

so whats with the bearded Vulcan, is he evil?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 February 2019 22:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Are you talking about the season 2 promos? Because that's (yet another rebooted) Spock.

Stateleee, Plump Buck Mulleeegan (Leee), Friday, 8 February 2019 23:11 (one week ago) Permalink

This was back to pretty-good-ness again this week!

Could've done with less space blob and more universal translator shenanigans - the show finally comes up with a killer, interesting idea and then fixes it five minutes later.

Tilly/Stamets/JET! are a great threesome tho

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:13 (one week ago) Permalink

i don't really like saru, but i kind of hope he turns into an ice-cold killer now

mookieproof, Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:26 (one week ago) Permalink

did you watch the short about his journey to starfleet?

mh, Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Ha, he’s prob my favourite regular cast member - he’s the most trad Trekky, well-rounded character, but he does such a great job of emoting through all that latex fish shmutz. I like that they’ve found a new place for him to go, too.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 10 February 2019 00:41 (one week ago) Permalink

“Death” scene went on way, way too long tho

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 10 February 2019 00:42 (one week ago) Permalink

these "death of a regular cast member" episodes haven't aged well in the past. everyone knows worf isn't going to kill himself.

I suppose the sentient planet episode in S1 (which was very bad) was set-up for what Saru will become.

adam the (abanana), Sunday, 10 February 2019 01:19 (one week ago) Permalink

I think I missed something what was the lie that Saru mourned his people still labored under? Was it that you could lose your ear gland things and still live or was there something else/more?

Mordy, Sunday, 10 February 2019 17:21 (one week ago) Permalink

i didn't get that either.

adam the (abanana), Sunday, 10 February 2019 17:41 (one week ago) Permalink

Makes a but more sense if you watch the short from a couple months back

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 10 February 2019 18:33 (one week ago) Permalink

So did I understand it correctly?

Mordy, Sunday, 10 February 2019 18:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I think the death scenes are so drawn out because the writers were trying extra hard to establish Burnham and Saru as becoming such close friends as to be family, when before this episode any time their relationship was a focus it was more adversarial.

I liked the scenes where Meet snarks on Stamets, but otherwise I didn't care for the episode. The vastly more intelligent alien sentience trying to communicate with humans who interpret it as belligerent has been done to death imo so I was really impatient for Disco to figure it out.

Nice to see Number One though, especially without giving her a proper name yet.

Stateleee, Plump Buck Mulleeegan (Leee), Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:00 (one week ago) Permalink

Either something different is happening with Saru’s biology because he’s not with his people or they’ve been told a big lie about their lifespan. The implication was that at a certain age they are either harvested or have to do this ritual that kills them.

It really looks like maybe it’s actually a second puberty-like thing and after they lose their fear tendrils they enter another life stage. Which is an interesting concept — having an earlier adulthood with an excess of caution followed by another where you’re not guided by fear.

mh, Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:06 (one week ago) Permalink

In the Saru short it was shown that the Kelpians' "gods" come to harvest them regularly, with the obvious implication being that they technologically advanced aliens taking advantage of less developed species... So apparently that's the lie Saru figured out in this ep. But I find that weird, because he should've figured out what the "gods" really are as soon as the Starfleet took him in and he saw their technology.

Tuomas, Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:16 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess it's possible he still thought those aliens were doing them a favour by harvesting them before their glands kill them, but I still don't find it credible he wouldn't have looked closer into this whole thing during all his time in Starfleet.

Tuomas, Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:18 (one week ago) Permalink

respect for tradition plus the prime directive, I’d guess, but it looks like there’s more to come

mh, Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:46 (one week ago) Permalink

Im going to guess the ganglia were some kind of fear implant controlling kelpians for the benefit of the ba'ul (or however its spelt). And maybe not naturally a part of them at all.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 10 February 2019 20:40 (one week ago) Permalink

tig notaro going "yo, anybody got gum?" and tilly immediately hooking her up with gum is a portentous clue that things are not what they seem.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 11 February 2019 04:13 (one week ago) Permalink

I didnt think of that.

I did like that she appeared to use the gum as a jerry-rig fixit device though!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 11 February 2019 04:28 (one week ago) Permalink

That's particularly suspicious when she specifically mentioned duct tape earlier. Why brag about duct tape but then use gum?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 11 February 2019 04:33 (one week ago) Permalink

Whats yr thinking, theyre in another reality again or sometin?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 11 February 2019 04:37 (one week ago) Permalink

http://imgs.fyi/img/78zb.png

Philip Nunez, Monday, 11 February 2019 04:57 (one week ago) Permalink

Leee, all I know about this show is the subway poster.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 February 2019 05:09 (one week ago) Permalink

lol Philip

mh, Monday, 11 February 2019 15:26 (one week ago) Permalink

Just seen the Saru short. God the prime directive is literally the worst! Yeah you can go ahead and slaughter these intelligent beings because y'know they haven't invented spaceships yet.

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 13:42 (six days ago) Permalink

i watched it too. that bit doesn't make sense to me either. why would they allow another advanced species farm a second sentient species for food just bc the second species isn't as advanced? that's fucked up and makes the PD look like an attempt to allow civilizations to progress organically and more like some isolationist make the federation great again bullshit.

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 16:20 (six days ago) Permalink

makes the PD look *less*

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 16:20 (six days ago) Permalink

feel like it's a good time to withhold judgment when they're definitely going to continue down this line of inquiry

we're also assuming the people doing the harvesting aren't also kelpians

mh, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 16:22 (six days ago) Permalink

the prime directive was always bullshit. a rule designed to show how often it should be broken -- like asimovs'.

adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 17:27 (six days ago) Permalink

Yeah, don't think Brightest Star actually explained what happened to the Kelpians that were taken, did it? xp

groovypanda, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:53 (six days ago) Permalink

we've got some expectations based on the alternate universe people eating kelpians, but who knows?

mh, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 21:01 (six days ago) Permalink

Remember that scene where Evil Georgiou (before she came over) was eating Kelpian brain? I wonder now if that somehow links in.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:19 (six days ago) Permalink

Dammit I literally did not see mh saying exactly what I just said. Durgh.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:20 (six days ago) Permalink

we're also assuming the people doing the harvesting aren't also kelpians

this wouldn't make it any better imo since it would suggest that spacefaring races are allowed to keep subcastes in ignorant squalor

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:48 (six days ago) Permalink

fwiw it doesn't really bother me vis-a-vis the consistency of the universe the federation has been shown to have questionable ethics and some kind of "not our business" PD could make plenty of intuitive sense even tho i feel like maybe this is generally a darker federation than in other series? but i'm not really an expert.

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:49 (six days ago) Permalink

they keep referring to it as 'general order one', which i guess may not precisely be the PD?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:51 (six days ago) Permalink

I think that's what TOS calls it (TNG calls it the PD).

Stateleee, Plump Buck Mulleeegan (Leee), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:53 (six days ago) Permalink

Yup

General Order 1: "No starship may interfere with the normal development of any alien life or society." (TAS: "The Magicks of Megas-Tu") General Order 1 was also better known as the Prime Directive. (TNG: "The Drumhead") It superseded all other laws and directives, with the exception of the Omega Directive. (VOY: "The Omega Directive")

groovypanda, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 08:04 (five days ago) Permalink

enough with the corny-ass burnham voiceovers

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 February 2019 00:27 (two days ago) Permalink

Enjoyed this week's. Seemed to have some grit in my eyes at times too. Lol at all the fanboys whinging at the science fantasy aspect of it, as if Trek has always been some paragon of hard sci-fi.

But yeah, the voiceover at the end was a bit much. Had to check it wasn't the mid-season finale as it had that kind of vibe about it.

groovypanda, Saturday, 16 February 2019 13:08 (two days ago) Permalink

did the show hire voyager's science advisor? because it felt like a writer wrote down "(TECH) will save him!" and an advisor replaced it with "DNA".

feels like they are trying to explain things from TOS that didn't need to be explained. like how season 1 was trying to explain why TOS Klingons looked human... never mind that they were only spies in their first TOS appearance and that it was clearly a budget issue. now we have an extradimensional network that could explain how spock put his mind in mccoy. i'm guessing the whole spock plot in discovery is trying to explain Jerk Spock from The Menagerie part 1 -- he was a jerk because roddenberry was a bad writer.

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 16 February 2019 15:52 (two days ago) Permalink

Getting through the second half of season 1 was pretty tough, enjoying the first couple of S2 much more. If they kill Tilly at any point, I'm done with the series.

The awful expository dialogue (explanation of WWIII to a room full of people who definitely had history classes at Starfleet Academy) is the worst part.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 17 February 2019 09:19 (yesterday) Permalink

I’m still amused by the fact one of my work team members convinced us to name our software development team “Section 31” way back in 2012 or thereabouts, before the trek writers decided to throw that premise into... everything

if only we were still around, we could have had team merch

mh, Sunday, 17 February 2019 16:31 (yesterday) Permalink

Technobabble saves the day? Well, that's a Trek tradition too, unfortunately.

A Grape Ape Agape (Leee), Sunday, 17 February 2019 16:36 (yesterday) Permalink

so was the section 31 ship cloaked before tyler called it for help? seems like technology that might have been useful in that recent war they almost lost to the klingons

mookieproof, Sunday, 17 February 2019 21:36 (yesterday) Permalink


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