Anticipating Spider-Man: Homecoming (and then presumably Spider-Man: Prom)

I don't like the title and I hope it changes but it probably won't but whatever. It's time we had a thread for it anyway. I hope it's an improvement to what's been happening to Spidey cinematically.

So we have Marissa Tomei as Aunt May, Michael Keaton cast as an unspecified villain (rumor has it it's the Vulture), and the kids below cast as unspecified classmates:

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(in an adversarial role, possibly Flash Thompson?)
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Glad to see Marvel's mixing it up with some diversity.

Maybe this will be the film where we finally learn how Spider-Man got his powers.

Word is they are shockingly skipping the whole origin thing this time!

the movie takes pace after Spidy has hung up his webs and taken a job in the financial sector iirc

He defeats his enemies by making bad investments on their behalf.

Keaton isn't happening (boo). Iron Man will be in the movie in some capacity.

wait, they're really rebooting this thing a third time in 14 years?

did you see the Andrew Garfield movies?

I like the title

andrew garfield and emma stone were really charming - unfortunately the movies they were in were not good

Michael Keaton is officially back in as the Vulture. There are (almost assuredly unsubstantiated) rumblings about D'onofrio showing up as Kingpin.

If that happens, it'd be the first time the TV series cross over to the movies, and not vice versa.

Spidey's turn in Civil War was far and away my favourite ever screen depiction of the character, they nailed it. Really looking forward to this as a result.

it'd be the first time the TV series cross over to the movies, and not vice versa

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That link doesn't work for me, but Nick Fury and the Helicarrier in Avengers 2 should count, even if it wasn't the best example of either medium.

That was about as effective a link as the unnamed helicarrier used in Deadpool's climax

i don't even watch agents of shield but just showing a couple of them on the helicarrier would've been such an easy gesture that it's stupid they didn't do it. i hope in spider-man:home-coming there's at least a line about some guy in hell's kitchen. i also hope we finally find out how he became spider-man.

Don't worry, I'm pretty sure I heard they're going to be expanding his origin into a trilogy of movies. I think this first one is mostly about the spider before it becomes irradiated.

Part two largely concerns pre-teen Peter Parker's ironic dislike of arachnids.

And it all comes to a head as he's seconds away from being bitten when the end credits for the third movie begin to roll.

sorry that link was a poster for Batman '66

Ah. I think Tuomas was referring specifically to the MCU. I thought by now at least one incidental character from the TV shows would've popped up in a movie but nope. I think I thought Sitwell first showed up on AoS but I realized recently that he was a fairly nondescript SHIELD dude walking around in a couple of the early films.

Hannibal Burress has been cast in an undisclosed role. I'm hoping for JJJ.

It's gonna be Robbie Robertson, isn't it

Bill Cosby

Hypno-Hustler

hannibal burress IS rocket racer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrzXIaTt99U

there's more footage in this international trailer:

https://youtu.be/Bqzg9YChKfM

looks pretty fun, but i'm kinda annoyed by the fact that they seem to have given miles morales' best friend ganke to peter parker :(

Oh, seriously? Huh. Well, that's stupid and unnecessary.

It's got the little wings on the costume from the original Ditko Spider-Man and the Vulture? Sounds good to me!

actually, looking into it a bit more, it seems that jacob batalon is in fact playing ned leeds of all people - i just assumed he must be playing ganke cuz he looks very much like ganke and he seems to have a similar dorky-best-friend role

much as i enjoyed tom holland as peter parker in civil war i still kinda wish this movie was about miles morales tho

yeah would rather see miles morales but idk at least the trailer makes it feel basically like a spider-man movie and not just a pile of nonsense like the last one. also glad to see john portman's atlanta marriott marquis getting its due. gotta say it'd be nice if they found a way to finally include spider-man's origin story, though.

i'm resigned to the fact they're not making a miles morales film but i am willing to accept fake ganke as tribute

Actually, they are (or at least were) making an animated Miles Morales film. It was supposed to be released next year but has been pushed back.

(I assume it'll be something like Big Hero 6 which is technically a Marvel movie but not an actual MCU movie.)

the trailer makes it feel basically like a spider-man movie

i think that's exactly the reason why i'm not exactly thrilled by what i've seen so far, cuz we've had five spider-man movies (six if you count civil war) in the last fifteen years and this does seem to be a remix of elements of all of them, with added marvel universe star power and the best peter parker yet. as huge a spider-man stan as ai am i dunno if that's gonna be enough!

was that the lord/miller animated spidey movie or something else? xxp

Yeah, that's the one. It's unclear whether production has even started on it, though, so grain of salt.

an animated spider-man movie with a quarter of the fun and invention of cloudy with a chance of meatballs would be fantastic. imdb has virtually no info on it and apparently chris lord is writing but someone else is making their directorial debut on it. i guess i won't hold my breath on seeing miles on-screen either live-action or animated anytime soon...

looks cool. that shot of the Vulture sweeping down (at the Hyatt Regency?) = they shooting these movies at Dragon Con now!

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it's the Marriott Marquis

called it upthread!

Tom Hardy IS Venom

god i hope he does the bane voice

The new trailer is insanely fun.

i am weirdly unpsyched for this

uncharacteristically unpsyched, even

http://i.imgur.com/rXvLw1v.jpg

Venom was 40 minutes of entertainment and the rest was...a thing

Venom was a barely passable airplane movie. At least I could make out what Hardy was saying most of the time in it.

Oi u in pieces bruh

Simon, what percentage of the impetus for seeing Venom in the first place was the puckish, premeditated thrill of disseminating the notion that a widely-panned film was better than the entire MCU slate? 40%? 60?

Venom was decent

[Venom was a barely passable airplane movie. At least I could make out what Hardy was saying most of the time in it.]

^^^ Of the three leads, Riz Ahmed was the only watchable actor. Hardy's mumbled New York accent and constant "OMYGOD WHAT'S HAPPENING!?" made me yearn for Nic Cage's nuanced Johnny Blaze. Michelle Williams was low-key and seemed tranquilized. The FX were decent enough.

Problem was Upgrade was the same movie but 300 times better

sony pretty much made my favourite superhero movie ever with multiverse and one of my top 5 videogames ever with the ps4 spidey

Upgrade, featuring Other Tom Hardy, was great.

Oh I way preferred venom to upgrade

God I hate Disney bootlickers on Twitter

Simon, what percentage of the impetus for seeing Venom in the first place was the puckish, premeditated thrill of disseminating the notion that a widely-panned film was better than the entire MCU slate? 40%? 60?

uh, no percent. I heard it was batshit and endearingly dumb and it was. also, Riz-as-Musk getting owned was pretty cathartic

MCU has backed itself into a corner with the entire “important people solving important problems” shtick and has jettisoned a lot of what makes comic books fun.

The Venom movie had some slapstick moments and dumb humor bits that didn’t quite land but having a character that didn’t spend the whole movie deathly afraid of losing control, because he never had it, was a nice departure. The motorcycle chase was actual fun.

MCU has backed itself into a corner with the entire “important people solving important problems” shtick and has jettisoned a lot of what makes comic books fun.

I categorically disagree with this.

Among the things I find fun in comic books:

- banter
- heroes facing near-insurmountable odds
- villains who operate off of deception rather than strength
- reality-bending events
- normal people stepping up to impossible tasks

MCU has all of this in spades, IMO

God I hate Disney bootlickers on Twitter

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wait til they find out why Spiderman isn't public domain despite being nearly 60 yrs old

I appreciate all of those things as well, but I need a healthy dose of joy and wonder

Unfortunately, my writing skills leave a lot to be desired so my Ghost Rider script where a number of background characters are heard to exclaim, “holy shit, that guy’s head is on fire!” is yet to be produced

For joy and wonder, hoping the MCU folds in the FF soon and has a Kirby-esque exploration of the Negative Zone, Blastaar, Annihilus, etc. Would be a nice precursor for the next 22 films culminating in an Annihilation Wave.

rob with the key point there: most everything kirby and ub iwerks and co touched should absolutely be in the public hands by now. that it's not is one of the main reasons why we're in this weird nostalgia culture ouroboros in the first place.

^^^

also

Stan Lee's daughter sides with Sony over #SpiderMan dispute, says no one could have treated her father "worse than Marvel and Disney's executives:"https://t.co/YlQbWOv8HA pic.twitter.com/GlBdyazD7I

— Comicbook.com (@ComicBook) August 22, 2019

real high-quality witness there

Eh, stories about her own relationship with her father haven't exactly been glowing.

ha, xpost

is she the one that was accused of elder abuse?

They only had one daughter. (There were many accusations of elder abuse against a variety of parties, though.)

(One living daughter, I should clarify - another died three days after birth, so was not accused of committing elder abuse at the age of 69.)

nice

This was terrible -- depressingly terrible, i.e. hundreds of millions spent on third-rate video game effects.

And Jake wasn't nude.

Why don't you use some of those graphics to make a Jake nood video

Deepfake!

The awkward high school comedy was the best, and a couple of Jake's scenes with Hollnad (i.e. the bar scene in Italy) had real charm, but, oy, that last third.

I do not like Shouty Jake -- the Jake of Nightcrawler, although I can see the connection between the two characters: on-the-spectrum tech bro who can't handle being thwarted.

The high school comedy was much better in the first film, though. I do like that there is a real focus on high school comedy in this series, but no, this was not a good film.

Far From Home doesn’t get enough credit for the soundtrack imo.

The Official Trailer for the third of these, with everyone that we'd heard about and a few more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYzbalQ6Lg8

They are sending Tom Holland out to fight armed with the same joke as three and a half years ago, though ("oh, we're using our made-up names?")

I truly love the sleuthing of Brazilian twitter that has convinced people characters were digitally removed from this (or a version of) the trailer to keep some surprises. And I believe it, too!

Hah. Probably true though - they do things like that all the time! Most obvious I can remember was that thing with the eye in Thor: Ragnarok's trailer, and more recently a costume change in Black Widow's trailer to not spoil a last act surprise.

pretty much everything about this movie smacks of desperation???

looks like utter trash too

This movie (or at least the trailer) does seem desperate or messy, but the last two Spider-Man movies were good fun (three, if you include the cartoon), he's been a high point of the other Marvel movies, and Marvel has yet to make a movie that felt desperate or looked like utter trash, so benefit of the doubt, I guess.

also feels like a big Tom Holland and/or Spidey send-off from the MCU, which i guess it is time for

Marvel has yet to make a movie that looked like utter trash

citation needed

for as like increditerrible as the garfield movies could be they are far less anonymous than mcu spidey. far from home was dreadful, homecoming pretty much only elevated on michael keaton’s shoulders

this looks like the actual shitty version of the raimi spider-man 3. dr. strange saying “scooby-do it!” what the ever living fuck is that

lol brad i'm glad someone else had my same reaction to this trailer.

also seems reeeeeeeally similar to the premise of Into the Spider-Verse, which was pretty much a masterpiece imho. gorgeous film, incredible sense of heart, breathtaking action. they couldn't have waited a little while to reuse the premise of a multiverse of Spidey characters?

my understanding from my students' comments is that Maguire and Garfield are also in this, which is somehow both more and less desperate than bringing in the villains from the Raimi and Webb films as literal ghosts. what a weird idea. can't Spidey just save downtown Flushing from the Rhino or something? why is he so bound up with Doctor Strange, if it's not a New Defenders movie? i hate the idea that he always has to be paired with the current Senior Schmuck of the Marvel films.

seems really stupid to do the "Spider-Man unmasked" twist at the end of the last film, then have it be reversed in seemingly the first act of this one --- by Peter Parker screwing up a magic spell, apparently?! this was the same basic error made in the comics about ten years ago, when Spider-Man unmasked himself; a bunch of horrible things happened as a consequence, and he pretty swiftly struck a deal with Mephisto to change it all back, at the price of undoing his marriage (which editorial had decided made him seem too old and stuffy, apparently). this was not exactly a widely-celebrated series of developments, so it's funny that they would use it as the basis for a big giant cinematic story.

I’m excited and worried and of course I’ll see it.

Quibble with all these MCU SpiderMan movies: they’re all so … busy, somehow, almost schizophrenic. And, yes, I’ve read Spider-Man comics! I’ve seen the SR movies. But I wind up thinking, always, “I like these conceptions of the characters a lot but wish I enjoyed the movies more. Maybe it’s because they aren’t allowed to just be Spider-Man movies; they also have to be part of the ever expanding MCU puzzle.

Or: Doctor Casino OTM

Spider-Man is Rabobi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_TJVOmdsLE

That was kind of what I liked about the second one is that it felt like it de-emphasized the larger MCU to a large extent. Obviously there was the Nick Fury and Maria Hill stuff, but really once they got the funny look at "the blip" out of the way, it was a relatively self-contained adventure until the unmasking stuff.

I did like spotting the "Blip Anxiety?" posters in the background of the SF scenes in Shang-Chi.

A thing to keep in mind is that, pre-release, a lot of people speculated a lot of things about Far From Home's plot (a movie I wasn't crazy about, fwiw) that wound up not being the case.

This does absolutely look very similar to the overstuffed Raimi Spider-Man 3, and echoes the premise of "Into the Spider-Verse," so I hope it's more than that and I guess kinda assume it is? Or maybe it sucks!

And I don't think most of the Marvel movies look particularly *good*, not at all. I just don't think they look like trash. There are movies that look like trash, like bright sitcom lighting in every scene. But the Marvel movies just look flat and 90% artificial, because they are.

Spiderverse is the best comic book movie, imo.

this movie was bad and all the ostensibly smart and capable heroes made many many very stupid decisions! and jamie foxx just seemed so bored and sad