Confused about the brotherhood as I remember them as being relatively robin hood-esque as far as protecting the regular folk and only fucking w/ Lannisters. Wouldn't have imagined them slaugthering a ton of innocents.
― dan selzer, Monday, 6 June 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
yeah, I was confused by that as well, but then again I don't really remember a whole lot about them (and they were only around for about 10 minutes in season 3 or something anyway, so it's not like we got a whole lot of info)
― silverfish, Monday, 6 June 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link
No we were actually stuck with them for awhile at the time!
― Evan, Monday, 6 June 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
whatever happened to the dudes they were originally supposed to catch? i mean obvs the mountain is in kings landing but the other guys that were w/him? i want to say that they started using the bwob name to add to the confusion and to help them catch people unawares but i think i'm making that part up
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 6 June 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
So I actually think that's the most likely outcome, these aren't actual BwoB, but copycat astroturf BwoB appropriating authentic BwoB culture to disguise their hideous capitalist bandit ethos in a cloak of faux BwoB
― El Tomboto, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
Anyway I hope Sandor survives all of this so he has to live out old age being approached by random Westerosi on the street who recognize him and pester him until he says "fuck the city, fuck the kingsguard, fuck the king" at which point they clap and laugh and cheer and he hates it
― El Tomboto, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
In the books The Brotherhood's decline into senseless brutality reflects a...change in their leadership
Looks like they're following that here.
― Rob Boss (latebloomer), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link
But they never really become as brutal as just straight up massacring peaceful citizens, right? I mean, they're brutal, but still.
― Frederik B, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
The Brotherhood are firmly anti renaissance fair.
― Evan, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
yeah I guess the massacre is probably to do with who McShane's character was before he got religion. His followers were just unlucky
― Number None, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link
the change in leadership is LSH right? i thought that was mostly about revenge.
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link
IIRC (I might be fuzzy on the details) the Brotherhood basically devolves into a hardcore faction of fanatics lead by you-know-who and the rest just leave to be outlaws.
― Rob Boss (latebloomer), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
I'm still trying to figure out how they're going to unfuck this Arya situation. She survives a gut wound = deus ex machina, she turns out not to be the real Arya = deus ex machina, she survives by basically any means = deus ex machina. So we either have a world record shaggy dog story as I mentioned above or we have something completely ridiculous and magical happen which has had NO prior setup that anybody noticed. It's not looking good.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link
The show might be conflating the revenge and the religious fanaticism (the septum was from a rival religion after all)
― Rob Boss (latebloomer), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I have no damn clue where they're going with Arya's storyline
― Rob Boss (latebloomer), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link
I used to be against all these people coming back from the dead until I learned to recognize it as one of the show's actual, major themes: rebirth. So now I'm mostly just intrigued. Winter is coming, after all.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
They could just solve the Arya problem by getting her some medical help, of course. I'd prefer that,
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
the sequence is revealed to be a metaphor for the shock of menarche
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 6 June 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link
― El Tomboto, Monday, June 6, 2016 4:45 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
bet she goes back to Jacen who heals her + she becomes enthralled once again to the faceless men
― 龜, Monday, 6 June 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
Rebirth and change, definitely. So many baptisms, atonements, new personalities, etc.
― Frederik B, Monday, 6 June 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
yeah i think the fact she survives the stabbing might be like some other dumb test for jacen
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
am i the only one who kinda likes the waif. i don't mean in a romantic sense - i just mean the character and her mean little face.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
My prediction is that after a sustained build to Hound vs Mountain at Trial By Combat III, the Hound suffers a torn medial meniscus while killing some bandits and they have to hurriedly heat up that impassive nun who looks like Hugo Weaving as a credible challenger instead
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link
Oh yeah! The Hound's going to go to take his axe-murderer revenge on the Brotherhood and then the BIG REVEAL w/r/t their leadership, season ends roll credits.
― Dan I., Monday, 6 June 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link
I kind of like the waif too, secretly been waiting for her to mutter to Arya "look, to be honest I really hate working here"
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
rhythm is both the song's manacle and its demonic charge. it is the original breath. it is the whisper of unremitting demand. ladies and gentlemen, miss sandor clegane, clegane the hound
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 June 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
I was sad about no Sean Bean too but I was really irritated that they didn't go back to that sled boy who's always in the snow and explain why his eyes keep rolling back into his head, does anything on this show actually make sense?
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/hanna-barbera/images/4/44/Huckhound.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090418215020"Fuck the city, fuck the Kingsguard, fuck the King!"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 June 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, June 6, 2016 5:06 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark
she's got a great Children of the Corn / American Gothic vibe
― 龜, Monday, 6 June 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
she's like 30 and from middlesbrough irl
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
Preview for next episode looks good, The Mountain finally fighting the sparrows. Brienne talking to Jaime.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 6 June 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link
Had to check where I knew Waif from. I thought it might have seen her in a kids programme from the 90s but she was the socially awkward feminist from Fresh Meat.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 6 June 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
They're running out of english actors. I hear next episode they're CGIing Oliver Reed in.
Percy/Captain Darling might be in it a bit more
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/f/fc/607_Robett_Glover_Profile.png
― nate woolls, Monday, 6 June 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link
It was him! I was going back and forth all the way through and decided it wasn't him.
Wondered if the Hound scene pre-credits was there because the actor's name in title sequence would've revealed it anyway
― kinder, Monday, 6 June 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link
-kinder, Monday, 6 June 2016 23:08
Me too
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 6 June 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link
They haven't used David thewlis or tim spall yet
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 6 June 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
Good:Lyanna Mormont -- the Arya who could've been
Bad:McShane & Co. stuff shallow, transparent setup for Hound's return to killing
― Interpretive Jigglypuffery (Leee), Monday, 6 June 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
Also relates to two other major themes: reuse and recycling.
― germane geir hongro (s.clover), Monday, 6 June 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link
wait isn't this davos?
― 龜, Monday, 6 June 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link
he looks like major dad
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 6 June 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link
I disliked how they played the Septon's speech through the "you win or you die" lens. Is every peaceful village getting massacred? I doubt it.
― remove butt (abanana), Monday, 6 June 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link
That's Ned Stark
xxp
― Evan, Monday, 6 June 2016 23:33 (seven years ago) link
I had been puzzled as to why last week, we saw Arya go to all the trouble of retrieving needle, and hiding in a dark room, only to have her suddenly wandering the streets and get attacked in a manner not reflecting her previous on-edge "i'm done for" thing. It seemed weird.
if that wasnt her, that'd make it make a lot more sense.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link
Also, my bf immediately yelled out "omg percy!" when Tim McInnery came on the screen and I have NO IDEA how he knew - it looked nothing like him! Nor sounded.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link
Is every peaceful village getting massacred? I doubt it.
― remove butt (abanana), Monday, June 6, 2016 4:25 PM (3 hours ago)
in the books, that was pretty much what happened to just about every village/enclave in the Riverlands area. Well, massacred, if they didn't submit to being robbed and/or subjugated.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link
So who were the folk Sandor was with anyway. I'm not sure I picked that up. Just some random travelling religious types?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link
in the books it was kinda like a spiritual retreat / monastery type place, no idea what they were going for in the show
― sarahell, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link
Yeah that was really elided badly.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 03:32 (seven years ago) link
If that's not Arya I'll be pissed. Seems like you'll have to do a lot of fancy dancing in order for it to be someone else and an Arya Durden solution seems nonsensical to me. Why would she be suffering from split personalities?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 06:34 (seven years ago) link
No no, its not Arya because its Jaqen pretending to be her. At least thats my take/theory as was someones upthread.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 06:44 (seven years ago) link