one time there were two magician movies

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what's up with that

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 01:45 (three years ago) link

is that randall flagg? shit

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 01:49 (three years ago) link

Paul Blart: Mall Cop (2009)
Observe & Report (2009)

emil.y, Friday, 25 March 2016 01:50 (three years ago) link

There is I think a particular term for simultaneous but separate invention/conception, but I can't think of what it is. Anyone?

emil.y, Friday, 25 March 2016 01:51 (three years ago) link

A Bug's Life (1998)
Antz (1998)

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 01:52 (three years ago) link

im pretty sure the generic Blart was probably more enjoyable than O&R

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 March 2016 01:57 (three years ago) link

Deep Impact
Armaggedon

both 1998

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 March 2016 01:58 (three years ago) link

Mirror Mirror (2012)
Snow White and The Huntsman (2012)

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:01 (three years ago) link

does dantes peak (1996) volcano (1997) count?

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:03 (three years ago) link

plausible deniability maybe

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:04 (three years ago) link

or wait the opposite of that

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:04 (three years ago) link

Turner & Hooch (1989)
K-9 (1989)

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:06 (three years ago) link

haha my summer camp took us to see K-9 on a field trip taht year.

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 March 2016 02:07 (three years ago) link

^yes indeed that is the paradigmatic example

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:09 (three years ago) link

The end of the 80s also had a lot Vietnam movies come out in rapid succession, but that doesn't really fit squarely into what we're going for here.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:15 (three years ago) link

Capote (2005)
Infamous (2006)

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 March 2016 02:18 (three years ago) link

An American Werewolf In London and The Howling and Wolfen (1981)

Eckrich® Pickled Pig Doin's (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:18 (three years ago) link

My Dinner With Andre and Bustin' Loose (1981)

Eckrich® Pickled Pig Doin's (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:19 (three years ago) link

hercules
the legend of hercules

!!

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:19 (three years ago) link

First Daughter (2004)
Chasing Liberty (2004)

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 25 March 2016 04:32 (three years ago) link

Hoop Dreams
Poop Dreams

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 March 2016 04:35 (three years ago) link

i always mix those up

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 25 March 2016 06:16 (three years ago) link

Tombstone (1993)
Wyatt Earp (1994)

got a long list of ILXors (fgti), Friday, 25 March 2016 06:49 (three years ago) link

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DuelingWorks/Film

Tuomas, Friday, 25 March 2016 08:10 (three years ago) link

i seen one of the magician movies it was fucken stupid i can only imagine how fucken stupid the other magician movie is with alfie zulu in it

disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 March 2016 08:14 (three years ago) link

They're both okay, but the twist in the Edward Norton one is easy to guess, and since half of the movie rests on that "shocking" revelation, it kinda diminishes it. Whereas the the two major twists in the Christian Bale/Hugh Jackman one genuinely come out of the left field, which makes it more fun to watch, if not super memorable.

Tuomas, Friday, 25 March 2016 08:18 (three years ago) link

Can't remember the Norton one, but I guessed the Prestige twist and it didn't affect my enjoyment of it. Also I didn't know a certain cameo was going to be in it so that really made my day.

kinder, Friday, 25 March 2016 08:51 (three years ago) link

the prestige was so good.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 March 2016 09:27 (three years ago) link

There was even a third magician movie around the same time, by the peep show guys

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 09:46 (three years ago) link

Another borderline case:

The Truman Show (1998)
EDTV (1999)

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 09:50 (three years ago) link

Probably much too far apart to count but...
Porridge (1979)
Escape to Victory (1981)

François Pitchforkian (NickB), Friday, 25 March 2016 09:53 (three years ago) link

Robin hoods

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Friday, 25 March 2016 09:54 (three years ago) link

Famously there was a British Robin Hood film that ended up being completely eclipsed by prince of thieves

Xpost!

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 10:00 (three years ago) link

Feels weird to include that because there have probably been years when there have been like 7 Robin Hood films produced

Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 10:01 (three years ago) link

War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407304/
The War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425638/
War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449040/

the first one is the Tom Cruise one, the second is the english version set at the same time as the book, the third is a knock-off rushed out on video ahead of the Cruise version to confuse people into buying it.

koogs, Friday, 25 March 2016 10:21 (three years ago) link

The General (1998)
Ordinary Decent Criminal (2000)

Both based on Irish gangster Martin Cahill

i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Friday, 25 March 2016 10:58 (three years ago) link

I thought it was normal to have certain themes be popular in certain years. Not sure what determines it , unless it is just competition within the industry. Or industries, do publishing houses do similar?

Stevolende, Friday, 25 March 2016 11:06 (three years ago) link

a second time there were two magician movies

the incredible burt wonderstone (2013)
now you see me (2013)

johnny crunch, Friday, 25 March 2016 11:21 (three years ago) link

Because they were such anomalies at the time (two psycho-killer movies today wouldn't be notable), and because of the stature of the two directors, Psycho and Peeping Tom, both 1960.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 11:46 (three years ago) link

I watched the British Robin Hood movie a few years ago, and it was really quite good, certainly better than Prince of Thieves. Possibly even the best Robin Hood feature film since the Errol Flynn era?

Tuomas, Friday, 25 March 2016 12:10 (three years ago) link

i kind of feel like

things to do in denver when you're dead (1995)
the usual suspects (1995)

should qualify but there were so many, so many tarantino knockoffs produced in the 90s that at least two of them would necessarily (emphasis) had to have bryan ferry, with his floppy, insouciant hair and sharply, elegantly disarrayed suits, as a former gangster trying to go straight but he's dragged back into the crimeworld for one last job to save his flailing enterprise but it goes disastrously wrong with an ensemble cast and interpersonal quibbling and banter that i'm not really sure if it does.

slugbuggy, Friday, 25 March 2016 12:13 (three years ago) link

Another one that's maybe a bit of a stretch but I think fits: the two grand-diva movies of 1950, Sunset Boulevard and All About Eve.

California Split and The Gambler, 1974.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 12:18 (three years ago) link

Catch-22 and MASH, 1970--not just war films, but a very specific kind of Strangelove absurdist black comedy.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 13:11 (three years ago) link

Also both given a "not Vietnam, but we're really talking about Vietnam" gloss by their directors.

T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Friday, 25 March 2016 13:36 (three years ago) link

The Prestige has Bowie-as-Tesla in it
The Illusionist is a bad movie but has Philip Glass' best score ever

got a long list of ILXors (fgti), Friday, 25 March 2016 13:42 (three years ago) link

bridget jones' diary (2001)
legally blonde (200))

a blonde zaftig protagonist shows up at a party dressed in a bunny costume because they thought it was a costume party but it wasn't, but she wins the day despite things

slugbuggy, Friday, 25 March 2016 13:57 (three years ago) link

The Illusionist wasn't even the best movie named The Illusionist in recent times

François Pitchforkian (NickB), Friday, 25 March 2016 13:59 (three years ago) link

legally blonde also 2001, not 200)

slugbuggy, Friday, 25 March 2016 14:00 (three years ago) link

Churchill (2017)
Darkest Hour (2017)

coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:33 (one year ago) link

Also (hopefully not already mentioned above) I just saw the documentary on the Marquis de wavrin, Belgian explorer & ethnographer who filmed indigenous tribes in South America in the early c20, & it reminded me that a couple of years ago we had:

Embrace of the serpent (2015)
Lost city of z (2016)

coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:47 (one year ago) link

https://www.slashfilm.com/1992s-two-columbus-movies-head-to-head/

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:49 (one year ago) link

I haven't seen Lost City Of Z yet buy I can't even fathom how it might be similar to Embrace Of The Serpent

imago, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:53 (one year ago) link

Only in subject matter really, they’re quite different otherwise

coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:55 (one year ago) link

Embrace of the serpent (2015) = Herzog
Lost city of z (2016) = David Lean

. (Michael B), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:57 (one year ago) link

Tuomas, have you seen The Thirteenth Floor? Also 1999 and even closer to The Matrix in subject matter.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 12:18 (one year ago) link

I was quite enjoying embrace of the serpent until the derivative death cult bit, which I felt brought the movie down to predictable-netflix-type-bollox standards.

calzino, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 13:56 (one year ago) link

Christine (2016)
Kate Plays Christine (2016)

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:00 (one year ago) link

Already submitted upthread

coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:02 (one year ago) link

Operation Dunkirk (2017)
Dunkirk (2017)

probably for another thread where Asylum rush out hilarious z-movies that turn out to better than the ones they rip off.

calzino, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:12 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah mockbusters deserves to be (or already is) a separate thread, think I might have said so before itt

coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:19 (one year ago) link

The Mercy (2017)
Crowhurst (2017)

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

dark city/matrix

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:27 (one year ago) link

What’s that, the sixth time some combo of dark city matrix gattaca existenz has been mentioned itt

coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:32 (one year ago) link

Deep Star Six (1989)
Leviathan (1989)

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, March 26, 2016 2:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and The Abyss the same year! these are the kind that i really find fascinating... you can imagine at least one being a rush job based on rumor that the bigger studio is doing a deep-sea alien movie...but with three in play you have to figure out what was in the water (yuk yuk) that led to this. see my remarks upthread on how you can imagine two screenwriters both reading a mid-90s article on what would happen if an asteroid hit the earth, and cooking up substantively different takes on how that could be made into a movie. there's also just a perennial problem with hollywood buying into deep-sea sci-fi movies, which never seem to quite connect with the public the way they expect. sphere (1998), deep blue sea (1999) and virus (1999) also reflect this impulse i think.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:37 (one year ago) link

Different media but leftovers and left behind (both 2014) definitely counts

Btw wow @ a quiet place/the silence, that one seems like a case of the aqp writers ripping off the source material for the silence wholesale

coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:44 (one year ago) link

So thankful that the producers of God's Not Dead rushed out an adaptation of Little Women for us this year so we don't have to wait for that slowpoke Greta Gerwig to finish her own adaptation.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:46 (one year ago) link

Shazaam (1995)
Kazaam (1996)

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:04 (one year ago) link

Sorry

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:04 (one year ago) link

(This is where I initiate my plan to further promote confusion by insisting to all and sundry that both films were total rip-offs of the 1994 Sherman Hemsley tv movie entitled Abracadabra.)

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:41 (one year ago) link

New World Pictures tried to make an Ant-Man movie in the late 80s because they knew Disney was making Honey I Shrunk the Kids. There's a story in "Marvel Comics: The Untold Story" about Stan Lee always pitching an Ant-Man movie and everyone else pointing out that Ant-Man can go through keyholes and that's it.

adam the (abanana), Sunday, 11 November 2018 08:32 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

RBG (2018)
On the Basis of Sex (2018)

Everyone cites Ghoulies (1985) and Critters (1986) as examples of the spate of Gremlins (1984) ripoffs but it seems there is an argument for their inclusion in the magician movie canon

Although widely believed to have been made to cash in on the success of the similarly themed Gremlins (which is also owned by Warner Bros.),[1][2][3] director Stephen Herek has refuted this in interviews, pointing out that the first Critters script was written by Domonic Muir long before Gremlins went into production and subsequently underwent rewrites to reduce the apparent similarities between the two films

and

Ghoulies is often considered a cash-in on the success of Gremlins, as was Critters. Was that movie an influence in any way and how did you feel about these comparisons?

The truth is, we were in production at the same time. We were curious about them, and they were curious about us. They were so curious about us, in fact, that Warner Bros. briefly sued to stop us from using the name – they lost. Part of the reason that Gremlins came out first, is that Charlie Band ran out of money halfway through shooting, so a few months went by as we all scrambled for the money, allowing Gremlins to open first. Strategically, I think Charlie positioned the release that way, as well.

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Saturday, 29 June 2019 07:17 (five months ago) link

At some point we are going to have to reckon with what exactly went on wrt

The Sopranos (1999, pilot shot in 1997)
Analyze This (1999)
National Lampoon’s The Don’s Analyst (1997)

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Saturday, 29 June 2019 07:23 (five months ago) link

I still don’t understand how/why Octopussy and Never Say Never Again came out the same year

brimstead, Saturday, 29 June 2019 17:51 (five months ago) link

I saw both at the cinema as a wee nipper, didn't realise it was same year. Heady times.

calzino, Saturday, 29 June 2019 18:00 (five months ago) link

weird james bonds rights issues - this guy who cowrote Thunderball essentially had the right to remake Thunderball, using any elements that already appeared in Thunderball, as many times as he wanted. clearly he found some money/producers who realized this, along with connery's enduring popularity, could be leveraged into a hit. and probably that, versus putting it out in a bond off-year, it would do better if marketed as a clear choice: connery vs moore, c'mon, who do you really wanna see folks?

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 29 June 2019 18:24 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

this year:
two movies involving a british minority group member and classic rock -- yesterday and the springsteen movie with a boring title
two movies where the manson murders get rewritten -- OUATIHBBQ and The Haunting of Sharon Tate

adam the (abanana), Monday, 5 August 2019 22:03 (four months ago) link

two movies about superheroes maybe? can’t remember the timing

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 5 August 2019 22:27 (four months ago) link

Two John Z. DeLorean movies out this year: Driven (Lee Pace as JZD) and Framing John DeLorean (Alec Baldwin as JZD).

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 August 2019 04:14 (three months ago) link

Two Fox News/Roger Ailes things this year: The Loudest Voice miniseries on Showtime, and theatrical film Bombshell w/Theron, Kidman, Robbie etc.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:33 (three months ago) link

Has anyone mentioned the dueling Fyre Fest docs?

There were the 2 JT LeRoy documentaries too, but I think they might have been a year apart

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:50 (three months ago) link

The David Crosby movie and Echo In The Canyon.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 19:05 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

one time there were two Yeti cartoons

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 16:59 (two months ago) link

three, counting Smallfoot (2018) as well as this year's Missing Link and Abominable

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 4 October 2019 21:53 (two months ago) link

i guess Missing Link was a bigfoot movie but still

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 4 October 2019 21:53 (two months ago) link

oh I wasn't sure which was which I just knew there seemed to be a lot of Yeti cartoons

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 22:01 (two months ago) link

I mean more than there really needs to be probably

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 22:02 (two months ago) link

i assume the two CG yeti ones reflect schemes to make bank in china, the new one especially. missing link, being stop-motion, must have taken a LOT longer to develop and doesn't seem motivated by much of anything. story had that problem also but at least it was stunningly gorgeous to look at about a third of the time.

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 4 October 2019 22:04 (two months ago) link

Yeah I think the latest one was co-produced by a Chinese studio

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 22:06 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

just wanted to amend my earlier comments as i just remembered that the climax of Missing Link takes place in a lost city of yetis, high in the Himalayas. So truly, one time there were three Yeti cartoons.

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:48 (one month ago) link

There were almost two Ferrari-related films out now, but Ford vs. Ferrari stands alone, as the Enzo Ferrari biopic is still in development.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:01 (one month ago) link

this year there was a dc captain marvel movie and a marvel captain marvel movie

wasdnuos (abanana), Saturday, 26 October 2019 14:16 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Two Roy Cohn docs this year: the theatrical release Where's My Roy Cohn, and HBO's Bully. Coward. Victim. The Story of Roy Cohn.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 17 November 2019 00:05 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

great listicling

insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 2 December 2019 00:15 (one week ago) link

Paid by the exclamation point!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 2 December 2019 13:09 (one week ago) link

If made-for-television films are acceptable ITT, I would like to offer:

Amy Fisher: My Story (December 28, 1992)
The Amy Fisher Story (January 3, 1993)
Casualties of Love: The 'Long Island Lolita' Story (January 3, 1993)

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 December 2019 13:16 (one week ago) link

That one time there were two Chicago-based hospital dramas on tv:
ER
Chicago Hope

Sam Weller, Monday, 2 December 2019 13:25 (one week ago) link


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