one time there were two magician movies

what's up with that

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is that randall flagg? shit

Paul Blart: Mall Cop (2009)
Observe & Report (2009)

There is I think a particular term for simultaneous but separate invention/conception, but I can't think of what it is. Anyone?

A Bug's Life (1998)
Antz (1998)

im pretty sure the generic Blart was probably more enjoyable than O&R

Deep Impact
Armaggedon

both 1998

Mirror Mirror (2012)
Snow White and The Huntsman (2012)

does dantes peak (1996) volcano (1997) count?

plausible deniability maybe

or wait the opposite of that

Turner & Hooch (1989)
K-9 (1989)

haha my summer camp took us to see K-9 on a field trip taht year.

^yes indeed that is the paradigmatic example

The end of the 80s also had a lot Vietnam movies come out in rapid succession, but that doesn't really fit squarely into what we're going for here.

Capote (2005)
Infamous (2006)

An American Werewolf In London and The Howling and Wolfen (1981)

My Dinner With Andre and Bustin' Loose (1981)

hercules
the legend of hercules

!!

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First Daughter (2004)
Chasing Liberty (2004)

Hoop Dreams
Poop Dreams

i always mix those up

Tombstone (1993)
Wyatt Earp (1994)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DuelingWorks/Film

i seen one of the magician movies it was fucken stupid i can only imagine how fucken stupid the other magician movie is with alfie zulu in it

They're both okay, but the twist in the Edward Norton one is easy to guess, and since half of the movie rests on that "shocking" revelation, it kinda diminishes it. Whereas the the two major twists in the Christian Bale/Hugh Jackman one genuinely come out of the left field, which makes it more fun to watch, if not super memorable.

Can't remember the Norton one, but I guessed the Prestige twist and it didn't affect my enjoyment of it. Also I didn't know a certain cameo was going to be in it so that really made my day.

the prestige was so good.

There was even a third magician movie around the same time, by the peep show guys

Another borderline case:

The Truman Show (1998)
EDTV (1999)

Probably much too far apart to count but...
Porridge (1979)
Escape to Victory (1981)

Robin hoods

Famously there was a British Robin Hood film that ended up being completely eclipsed by prince of thieves

Xpost!

Feels weird to include that because there have probably been years when there have been like 7 Robin Hood films produced

War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407304/
The War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425638/
War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449040/

the first one is the Tom Cruise one, the second is the english version set at the same time as the book, the third is a knock-off rushed out on video ahead of the Cruise version to confuse people into buying it.

The General (1998)
Ordinary Decent Criminal (2000)

Both based on Irish gangster Martin Cahill

I thought it was normal to have certain themes be popular in certain years. Not sure what determines it , unless it is just competition within the industry. Or industries, do publishing houses do similar?

a second time there were two magician movies

the incredible burt wonderstone (2013)
now you see me (2013)

Because they were such anomalies at the time (two psycho-killer movies today wouldn't be notable), and because of the stature of the two directors, Psycho and Peeping Tom, both 1960.

I watched the British Robin Hood movie a few years ago, and it was really quite good, certainly better than Prince of Thieves. Possibly even the best Robin Hood feature film since the Errol Flynn era?

i kind of feel like

things to do in denver when you're dead (1995)
the usual suspects (1995)

should qualify but there were so many, so many tarantino knockoffs produced in the 90s that at least two of them would necessarily (emphasis) had to have bryan ferry, with his floppy, insouciant hair and sharply, elegantly disarrayed suits, as a former gangster trying to go straight but he's dragged back into the crimeworld for one last job to save his flailing enterprise but it goes disastrously wrong with an ensemble cast and interpersonal quibbling and banter that i'm not really sure if it does.

Another one that's maybe a bit of a stretch but I think fits: the two grand-diva movies of 1950, Sunset Boulevard and All About Eve.

California Split and The Gambler, 1974.

Catch-22 and MASH, 1970--not just war films, but a very specific kind of Strangelove absurdist black comedy.

Also both given a "not Vietnam, but we're really talking about Vietnam" gloss by their directors.

The Prestige has Bowie-as-Tesla in it
The Illusionist is a bad movie but has Philip Glass' best score ever

bridget jones' diary (2001)
legally blonde (200))

a blonde zaftig protagonist shows up at a party dressed in a bunny costume because they thought it was a costume party but it wasn't, but she wins the day despite things

The Illusionist wasn't even the best movie named The Illusionist in recent times

legally blonde also 2001, not 200)

Hah

I thought this was going to be about

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From 2011:

“La Guerre des Boutons” (“The War of the Buttons”) is a comedic remake of a 1962 blockbuster about spirited boys fighting with catapults and wooden swords. It was released Wednesday in French theaters.

But in an unprecedented development here, a more melodramatic film of the same story, with the similar title “La Nouvelle Guerre des Boutons” (“The New War of the Buttons”), comes out just a week later.

Both scripts are based on the same book, “La Guerre des Boutons,” written in 1912 by Louis Pergaud. Both have the same co-producer, the privately owned television channel TF1, and the same budget, about 13 million euros, or nearly $18 million.

https://www.critique-film.fr/la-guerres-des-boutons-2-films-differents/

https://archive.is/IIjHG

I suppose this sort of thing is going to keep happening as books fall out of copyright

a 1912 book by someone who died in 1915 would've been public domain for a while though

for some reason it didn’t enter the public domain until 2010, not sure why

Once upon a time there were two Jean Harlow biopics released five weeks apart:

Harlow (1965)
Harlow (1965)

came on here to post this but emil.y beat me to it 8 years ago lol

emil.y at 3:42 26 Mar 16
The Double (2013, adapted from Dostoevsky's The Double)
Enemy (2013, adapted from Saramago's The Double)
Both deal with doppelgängers and identity.

RIP Christopher Priest, without whom there would have only been one magician movie.

RIP. He wrote a lot of great stuff.

I have yet to watch the movie or read the book, been saving it up.

Still need to finish Nina Allan’s The Rift as well, which starts out grebt.

Immaculate
The First Omen

Haha I just said the same thing to my friend.

Bizarre how similar they are

Not just in "nun" premise but the first half hour of movie too

Two films based on the story of Bernard Jordan, escaping from his care home to attend D-Day anniversary.

The Great Escaper with Michael Caine, 6th October 2023.
The Last Rifleman with Piers Brosnan, 5th November 2023.

I’d seen the cover for The Last Rifleman and with Brosnan in it assumed it was a thriller of some sort.

"Roller Boogie" and "Skatetown U.S.A.", both 1979

This is a pretty loose one, but in the early '70s there were several movies about or involving on on some important level radio personalities/DJs:

WUSA, 1970
Vanishing Point, 1971
Play Misty For Me, 1971
The King of Marvin Gardens, 1972
American Graffiti, 1973

in that vein, i did see Vanishing Point and The Warriors closely together recent and thought the dj aspect was similar (Warriors was a bit later - '79)

I worked for the person who came up with the slogan "soup is good food." Research indicated that mothers had underlying anxiety about feeding children meals that had not been prepared from scratch; Campbell's play was to alleviate this using the simplest, most direct possible language. The underlying lesson, I think, was that sometimes a lack of cleverness is a type of cleverness.

whoa i remember being told that i went to college with the offspring of the person who invented this slogan but i have no recollection who that person was. what a strange intersection!

I think that a lot of that work was done by Molly M. at Porter Novelli.

The Warriors maybe pairs up better with The Fog (1980).

Might be stating the obvious, but I think radio DJs were just a bigger part of life back then, with a stronger presence as individuals, and (correct me if I'm wrong) more actual time of their voice on the air saying stuff. They were surely more prominent as local figures, and the intimacy of them being in everybody's cars and ears can't be discounted. So it makes sense that there'd be a lot of them in movies, just like having a lot of newspaper reporters, or politicians, or local business owners.

This is a pretty loose one, but in the early '70s there were several movies about or involving on on some important level radio personalities/DJs:

WUSA, 1970
Vanishing Point, 1971
Play Misty For Me, 1971
The King of Marvin Gardens, 1972
American Graffiti, 1973

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain

There's also a low-budget Canadian entry in that same vein and timeframe: "Slipstream", starring Luke Askew as the DJ

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipstream_(1973_film)

And the movie FM, now only remembered because Steely Dan wrote the theme song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316mipUnA-M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM:_The_Original_Movie_Soundtrack

The Warriors and The Wanderers work together too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBrRbcQuNl8

Dana Gould on "Soup is good food"

FM lines up a little with WKRP on TV (both 1978).

There's certainly an analog in the characters:

Micheal Brandon/Gary Sandy
Martin Mull/Howard Hesseman
Cleavon Little/Tim Reid

I remember seeing some comments about how that was merely coincidental, that radio stations of the era were all like that, with a burnout DJ, a hip Black guy, the frustrated program director etc.

Another one that lines up with FM is American Hot Wax, Floyd Mutrux's 1978 biopic of Alan Freed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLAx5lIqfsg

Not commercially available.

Two junkie movies in 1971: Panic in Needle Park and Born to Win.

― clemenza, Saturday, March 26, 2016 5:07 PM (eight years ago)

Dusty and Sweets McGee as well.

American Hot Wax probably could lineup with The Buddy Holly Story (also 1978).

...and also Dead Man's Curve, a 1978 TV biopic with Richard Hatch & Bruce Davison as Jan & Dean.

Old army buddies plan & execute a major heist in 1960:

Ocean's 11
The League of Gentlemen

Europa Europa (1990, Agnieszka Holland)
Europa (1991, Lars von Trier)

This confused the hell out of me at the time

Cannonball! and The Gumball Rally, 1976

The former is a race from LA to NYC, while the latter is one from NYC to Long Beach.

Movies about women getting across LA by any means necessary to attend a party: Izzy Gets The F*ck Across Town, 2017; and Booksmart, 2019.

On that tip, movies featuring a supporting role for Molly Gordon and are about young people in LA doing whatever to attend a party : Booksmart and Good Boys, 2019

This confused the hell out of me at the time

It was released in Australia and the US as “Zentropa” for this reason

Movies telling fictionalized stories about the business of American Pop Music in the '60s (complete with retro soundtracks composed by All-Star rosters of contemporary & classic talent): Grace of My Heart and That Thing You Do!, 1996.

Didn't realize That Thing You Do! is so old, I would have guessed mid-oughts

It's that old. Gave a nice little boost to Fountains of Wayne, whose debut was released the same week as the movie.

Don't forget Backbeat, which I genuinely enjoyed at the time in part because of 1) Dulli and 2) Beatles and 3) Sheryl Lee

i guess that wasn't fictionalized though
still it was enjoyable and was 60s-based

Backbeat is close enough.

Also qualifying, albeit in a very roundabout way, is Velvet Goldmine (1998)

Velvet Goldmine also linking up to Almost Famous (2000).

Ralph Bakshi’s American Pop (1981) epitomizes this. It also speed-runs through HUAC, the Vietnam/Amerucan War, the Bolshevik Revolution, and cocaine chic. I love it, although many find it problematic

Actually, Breaking Glass (1980) fits as well

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XP Another late '90s Classic Rock one: Still Crazy (1999)

Hip Hop satires: CB4 & Fear of A Black Hat, 1993