American comedians (old-timey historical thread)

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I suspect some of you might read this new tome by Kliph Nesteroff? even Old Lunch!

http://www.groveatlantic.com/?title=The+Comedians

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 14:23 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

happy 93rd birthday to Larry "Agarn" Storch!

https://ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/larry-f-troop.jpg

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 January 2016 21:12 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

A friend who saw Don Rickles in LA recently says the act is still fun, even tho his mobility isn't great -- and he still sings a lot... "figured that'd be the first thing to go at 89." Now i'm toying with going to see him in June...

http://www.donrickles.com/?page_id=16

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 February 2016 16:55 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the Mob - nightclub stuff in the Nesteroff book is pretty choice. I didn't realize Miami Beach was the Vegas of the late '40s.

also Groucho's quote on being bowled over by Chaplin on the vaudeville circuit: "He had one shirt! ... I went to Hollywood five years later and he had a big mansion and was fucking all the leading ladies."

disappointed to learn that Lou Costello was a big McCarthyite who wanted his writers to sign loyalty oaths, tho.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:06 (four years ago) link

also Harry Einstein (Albert Brooks' dad) dying at that roast, oy

i mean first he KILLED, then he died.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 February 2016 20:54 (four years ago) link

happy 93rd birthday to Larry "Agarn" Storch!

🗻


Who says I'm dumb?

Thank You For Cosmic Jive Talkin' (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 01:53 (four years ago) link

was that an F Troop catchphrase? no idea

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 14:43 (four years ago) link

Jean Carroll, one of the first women who did standup monologues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJv0mZG8Wws

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 14:59 (four years ago) link

was that an F Troop catchphrase? no idea

Yes.

Book is great, btw. Thanks for the rec.

The Kidd With The Erasable Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:25 (four years ago) link

I'm really glad some of the routines described haven't been preserved for posterity, like young Art Carney's impression of FDR taking a crap.

Also I guess Milton Berle really did earn all that hatred in the profession. (Fred Allen on a proposed Berle statue: "It'll be the first statue that people shit on.")

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:31 (four years ago) link

Definitely want to read this book. Does it have much on '30s/'40s radio comics? I have a big soft spot for Burns/Allen, Fibber McGee, Eve Arden, Jack Benny etc.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:57 (four years ago) link

There's a chapter on each phase of comedy from 1900 on, pretty much, including one on radio. I didn't realize how much Jack Benny stole from other comics (like Ben Bernie) to start his career; everybody stole, apparently.

He has spave mostly for the biggies; in radio it's mostly Benny, Eddie Cantor, Fred Allen, a little George & Gracie and Bob Hope, and the oft forgotten Henry Morgan (who was still doing TV panel shows when I weas a kid). And then he describes the brief career of a piker who got lucky (Joe Penner, who rode to 3 years of fame on "Wanna buy a duck?").

Also, Burns & Benny almost got convicted of jewel smuggling at the peak of their stardom!

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 18:08 (four years ago) link

*He has space

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 18:08 (four years ago) link

Cool. Will read.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 18:10 (four years ago) link

I love the part about Buster Keaton's first big success coming as a child performer in a vaudeville act in which his dad beat the shit out of him on stage every night. The routine was so convincing that the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children tried to shut down the show.

Josefa, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:19 (four years ago) link

well that i knew bcz it's been in all the Keaton bios

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:26 (four years ago) link

i'm curious to discover what the people i know who are expert in 1900-1965 comedy think of the book, ie how much they found new to them. I mean, they know damn near everything.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:28 (four years ago) link

Right.

The Kidd With The Erasable Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 February 2016 02:45 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the story of the comedy duo of (Fred) Willard & Grecco in the '60s is really incredible.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 March 2016 04:53 (three years ago) link

holy crow, some of this crash is on YT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bs4bbNHmO0

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 18:46 (three years ago) link

Looking forward to watching

SIGSALY Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 March 2016 00:13 (three years ago) link

watch the turkey dinner sketch on the Jerry thread first

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 March 2016 00:38 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Joe Morton is starring in a sort-of-one-man play about Dick Gregory off-Broadway... I was superficially not interested given the format, but the reviews have been pretty great.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/turn-me-loose-joe-morton-scandal-review-1201761103/

http://www.turnmelooseplay.com/

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:22 (three years ago) link

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live event of the winter in NYC

http://metropolitanroom.com/event.cfm?id=250956&cart

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:59 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Storch made it to 94 yesterday, but i was unable to attend! take a listen (this record is 60yo):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XV5HTWO-gM

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 January 2017 19:13 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

His career reached its peak of absurdity in 1974 when he was called upon to accept the National Book Award on behalf of the reclusive author Thomas Pynchon for the novel “Gravity’s Rainbow.”

Mr. Corey gave a wandering acceptance speech on behalf of Pynchon, offering thanks to Communist Party leader Leonid Brezhnev, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger — whom Mr. Corey called the “acting president of the United States” — and author Truman Capote.

Since Pynchon had never made a public appearance, many in the audience assumed the prattling Mr. Corey to be the mysterious author. (Mr. Corey did not, in fact, know Pynchon, but they had mutual friends who arranged the comedian’s book award talk.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/irwin-corey-comic-who-styled-himself-the-worlds-foremost-authority-dies-at-102/2017/02/07/b39560ae-ed36-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:50 (three years ago) link

aw RIP

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:20 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHlLmYVCzKY

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:33 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

good night, funny man

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/don-rickles-dead-legendary-comic-was-90-720153

I think we're down to Jerry Lewis, Larry Storch and Shecky Greene.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:14 (two years ago) link

i hate the 21st century.

i tried to revive my beloved old jews thread, but what's the point anyway. everything sucks.

i think i'll just retreat into the past until i croak.

scott seward, Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:16 (two years ago) link

awww scott

Shelley Berman is still upright too

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:20 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_87ZoEaUs4

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:26 (two years ago) link

Dont forget Rickles best friend Bob Newhart is also still kicking

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:28 (two years ago) link

And best pals Brooks & Reiner.

Break the meat into the pineapples and pat them (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:36 (two years ago) link

yeah, I was thinking Jewish comics who first made their name in clubs.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:39 (two years ago) link

(pref Catskills; Mel performed there but didn't become a star there a la Jerry)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:40 (two years ago) link

posting this blind just cuz...

Kliph Nesteroff‏
@ClassicShowbiz
the greatest thing Don Rickles ever did. the greatest thing Don Adams ever did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kEQ3ndLhq8

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:51 (two years ago) link

never seen that photo of boyd rice and genesis p-orridge before

example (crüt), Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:13 (two years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:15 (two years ago) link

Last month it was announced that Don Rickles had teamed up with AARP for their first TV project, Dinner with Don. The 10-episode series features Rickles “dining with friends and fellow comedians at some of his favorite LA-area restaurants.” A premiere date for the series hasn’t been announced yet, but AARP released a sneak peek from the series, which was completed prior to Rickles’ death.

clip:

http://splitsider.com/2017/04/watch-a-clip-from-dinner-with-don-featuring-paul-rudd-amy-poehler-zach-galifianakis-and-more/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 April 2017 15:04 (two years ago) link

In tribute to the 100th anniversary of Hans Conried's birth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8mBePCovlU

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 April 2017 14:15 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkomzcVzIIU

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 April 2017 14:25 (two years ago) link

Saw a few minutes of some dreary Borgnine B-movie yesterday called The Rabbit Trap, and watched Rickles steal a scene just by mugging, miming eating and swigging a beer during a backyard BBQ interlude.

stet, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 April 2017 20:08 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

(Shawn) Levy’s posted a note on Facebook, which Ray Pride passes along at Movie City News: “Jerry and I met twice while I was working on the book and spoke/wrote to each other perhaps a dozen times. Like many of his relationships with the press and his partners/subordinates, it ended badly, with Jerry hollering profanities at me in the cabin of his yacht in San Diego. I wrote about it in the epilogue to my book, and over the years I’ve had the scene quoted back to me by Steve Martin, Harry Shearer, Paul Provenza, and Penn Jillette. Tom Hanks once told me that he had a dinner with Paul Reiser and Martin Short at which Short spent the night imitating Jerry throwing me off the boat. Jerry was a lot of things: father, husband, chum, businessman, philanthropist, artist, innovator, clown, tyrant.”

Levy's bio of Lewis is def the one to read.

http://moviecitynews.com/quotes/biographer-shawn-levy-on-jerry-lewis-on-facebook/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 August 2017 15:59 (two years ago) link

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RIP Will Jordan, who did his Ed Sullivan impression everywhere from Bye Bye Birdie on Broadway to a Billy Joel video

https://www.newsweek.com/will-jordan-dead-ed-sullivan-impression-billy-joel-1110525

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

As this thread could easily double as one for Gilbert Gottfried's podcast, I'll link this 2016 appearance from a then-80-year-old Jordan:

https://www.gilbertpodcast.com/will-jordan/

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:42 (one year ago) link

*89-year-old

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:42 (one year ago) link

I saw Jordan talk/perform briefly in a comedy club six (?) years ago for a Larry Storch birthday tribute. (Jake LaMotta and Marni Nixon, who have also shuffled off since, were also there.)

My comedian friend who is quoted in the Newsweek obit also knows Gilbert in the Friars Club.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 September 2018 19:44 (one year ago) link

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Aw man, I totally missed this, just read it elsewhere today. RIP, huh? Yeah. Huh? Yeah. Huh? Yeah, RIP.

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:31 (two weeks ago) link

Referring to Jack Burns passing, obviously.

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:32 (two weeks ago) link

It's strange that he hosted SNL (solo) in the second season.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:45 (two weeks ago) link

Didn't know that. My parents watched lots of variety shows when I was a kid, but I mostly remember him from his stint replacing Don Knotts on Andy Griffith (where he wasn't too popular.)

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:03 (two weeks ago) link

a thankless job

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:06 (two weeks ago) link


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