Aziz Ansari's 'Master of None' on Netflix

No, I remember hearing about shows he did here over the past year, where he apparently did not address it at all (certainly not in depth)

he clearly addressed it on the tour because he does so in the film that was shot while on tour

or is the argument here that the special was somehow not part of the tour? I am confused

I wouldn't really say he addresses it "in depth" here either, but he does address it and use it as a jumping-off point to a broader conversation that is very well thought out and delivered

I meant that maybe that stuff was only part of the special (not the tour), but idk, I think the date he played here was one of his very first shows back (and it was on a Sunday night, no publicity, announced day-of via the club's mailing list).

Critic said he saw him on tour last year; he did not address it. So this material had been created later.

show filmed is probably from a later part of the tour then

Comedians usually film specials once the material is developed, not often while they are still writing it. If the NYT critic didn’t go to, say, three shows at different stages of the tour, it’s idiotic to assume they know what they’re talking about if they claim to have knowledge of “the tour.”

ok so we've established that at some point earlier in the tour he did not include that particular section. got it. can we move on lol

the special was filmed at the BAM this year in May.

I can share my password to google.

tour started in February 2019

The part about the alternate universe where Osama Bin Laden made an incredible jazz album pre 9/11 was great.

this is from 2/12/19 - NYT:

Aziz Ansari has spent much of his recent stand-up comedy tour only peripherally referencing the accusation of sexual misconduct early last year that took him out of the public eye.

That changed on Monday night, when he took the stage in New York City at the Village Underground, an offshoot of the Comedy Cellar. It was one of a string of small “pop-up shows” where Ansari has been testing out material for an upcoming tour that will take him around the United States and Europe this spring.

According to Vulture’s Jesse David Fox, who was in the audience for the set, Ansari said he had delayed discussing the accusation because “it’s a terrifying thing to talk about” and he wanted to take time to process what he wanted to say. He added, according to Fox: “There were times I felt really upset and humiliated and embarrassed, and ultimately I just felt terrible this person felt this way.”

Ansari continued: “But you know, after a year, how I feel about it is, I hope it was a step forward. It made me think about a lot, and I hope I’ve become a better person.”

so Jason Zinoman's review today was not inaccurate

idgaf cuz i saw AA's shit early on and it wasnt funny (like 99.5% of standups)

NYT's most recent review subhead: When our critic saw his show in December, the comic didn’t bring up the scandal. In his Netflix special, he rectifies that mistake with his finest work yet.

basically the NYT is trying to make it look like he didn't address it fast enough...? I guess?

(like 99.5% of standups)

generous of you to set aside 0.5% for yourself

I laughed out loud at it but that asking your mom if she fucked a black guy joke...that joke likely will expire very soon.

(I absolutely was not a funny standup, except for fleeting moments)

what was your best joke/bit?

i've had it erased from my mind Eternal Sunshine-style

Wait, Morbs had a spell as a stand-up comedian?

approx '88-91. I passed the audition and performed for awhile at the Original Improv, whose owner was in the process of running into the ground.

Brett Butler, later of the sitcom "Grace Under Fire" and one of the very best comics I ever saw, was very nice to me.

*running the club into the ground

can we have a morbz late-80s NYC standup scene reminiscence thread

also remember Louis had just premiered a new feature film at the time he finally got briefly shamed off the stage, about how hot teenage girls want to fuck old bald auteurs and we shouldn't suppress that healthy growth and curiosity by spreading bad gossip about the old bald auteurs being creeps, but it's much better if the old bald auteurs want to fuck women half their age instead of 1/3

thought the "1/3" was a twitter thread parody joke at first

In an alternate world, Morbs took over as season 3 host of Remote Control.

new aziz special is transformative pic.twitter.com/nfOOa1fLKF

— melissa lozada-oliva (@ellomelissa) July 12, 2019

some of the most interesting threads are the ones you stumble upon

lol at that twitter vid. tried the new special (as much for spike as anything) and made it in ten minutes or so. he is not good.

yeah, finding the praise here fairly baffling

think I made it 15

I made it all the way through halfway paying attention... the last bit (dying grandma is so thankful, as we should all be blah blah blah) was enraging.

Enraging? Ok

Facebook motivational memes are not good comedy.

I wouldnt know

all of the sentimental family stuff just came off as a hedge against the other stuff he doesn't want to really talk about.

Finding these reactions bizarre (esp the rage) but whatever. Cant argue ppl into finding things funny or moving

yeah, I did definitely say aloud "oh, 60 more times of seeing my parents is waaaaaay too much."

Lol

I don’t think you paid attention to the grandma part of that was your takeaway

My actual takeaway (and the part that was annoying) was that it was a shield to cover his primary sentiment of "I'm so thankful my cancellation for being a creep was only temporary."

Should he not be thankful about that?

Full disclosure - i found the “accusations” against him p weak sauce, publicized by a questionable outlet

Essentially if u think he shouldnt be onstage at all because of his “crimes” then i would think there’s nothing he could say onstage that will alter that

yeah, I did definitely say aloud "oh, 60 more times of seeing my parents is waaaaaay too much."

looooool

I don't particularly care about him being onstage - cool scare quotes around crimes though.

All the #blessed shit just felt like the worst of self-serving Louis CK "comedy but real talk" as discussed earlier in the thread. Preachy comedy sucks.

He was not charged w a crime, thats why the scarequotes

There shouldn't even be scare quotes around "crimes" because his actions weren't criminal. His behaviour wasn't even tortious. I am surprised that this is even still an issue, I thought that consensus was clearly on Aziz's side? Juliana Escabedo Shepherd wrote that Jezebel piece? I myself went so far as to agree with Caitlin Flanagan's take (i.e. that it was actually racist?) https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/01/the-humiliation-of-aziz-ansari/550541/

Exactly