posting this here instead of that pitchfork thread where people were talking about social justice warriors and then we started talking about college kids and i wanted to know what you think, america. also, is this happening everywhere? meaning outside america. my wife has been dealing with college kids at the college radio station she vounteers at and those kids all use this language and they really do feel attacked in a pretty visceral way if people question them or are critical of them. my wife has a theory that college-age kids were traumatized by 9/11! which i never would have thought of. but the helicoptering parents and emphasis on safe spaces....well, it kinda makes sense! but i'm no shrink.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 October 2015 17:02 (three years ago) Permalink
good article
― the late great, Saturday, 3 October 2015 17:23 (three years ago) Permalink
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-not-funny/399335/
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 October 2015 17:25 (three years ago) Permalink
related article about how some comedians won't play college campuses anymore.
I've been skeptical of these articles -- I read this one last week -- because I work at a public university in a major metropolitan center and have seen little evidence of these phenomena, which doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
However, I DO see the use of the politics of offense in smaller communities within the university, like the college radio deejays whom scott alludes to and to a lesser extent student newspaper employees. But these are students who already feel besieged, and when we include sexual experimentation, a muddled absorption of classroom concepts, hours on the internet not knowing the difference between a blog post and a scholarly article but responding as if they were the same, I can understand. Students are fun.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 October 2015 17:28 (three years ago) Permalink
lots of discussion in the "free speech and creepy liberalism" thread iirc
― marcos, Saturday, 3 October 2015 17:53 (three years ago) Permalink
and Alfred otm, I work a university too and I think the article is overblowing the issue, I've seen some really good responses to the article and I'll try to post a few
― marcos, Saturday, 3 October 2015 17:54 (three years ago) Permalink
Childhood itself has changed greatly during the past generation. Many Baby Boomers and Gen Xers can remember riding their bicycles around their hometowns, unchaperoned by adults, by the time they were 8 or 9 years old.
so close
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:00 (three years ago) Permalink
riding their bicycles watching TV
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:02 (three years ago) Permalink
"lots of discussion in the "free speech and creepy liberalism" thread iirc"
ah, okay. i never go there.
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:10 (three years ago) Permalink
Students are fun to be avoided
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:19 (three years ago) Permalink
contemporary college students are awesome (i teach them) and seem exactly the same as college students did when I was in college
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:28 (three years ago) Permalink
article's kind of a weak entry in this extremely competitive field imo. over half of it is earnest recap, like a rocky and bullwinkle episode.
i'm also increasingly suspicious, maybe unfairly, of "cognitive behavioral therapy"? really seems to be reaching critical mass right now as something people who are not therapists recommend to people who are not their patients. it's got this nice sellable new-age connection to buddhist right-thought stuff but in practice it seems over and over again to come down to an expert way of saying "your perspective is invalid, use mine." that this article positions it as the clinical antidote to those nasty Feelings rings a little alarm bell that harmonizes with other little alarm bells, like the one at the part where the authors muse on the horror of "a culture where everyone must think twice"; or the one at the part where they say that instead of changing the world, you should change your desires, because of buddhism, not the maintenance of hegemony at all; or the one at the part where one of them describes his qualifications as ceo of something called "the foundation for individual rights in education". idk. i think i left college just before this started, if it started.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:35 (three years ago) Permalink
xp iirc article was linked by on fs & cl thread but there wasn't much discussion of it(lol maybe thread participants felt a little exhausted of topic by then)
fairly good article overall. not sure about suggested prescriptions (eg introducing cbt training); agree shd be reform of federal standards languageanyway largely agree with diagnosis (tho nb i currently do not inhabit a campus)
― drash, Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:36 (three years ago) Permalink
ya dlh, share yr ? re cbt (particularly, idea of institutionalizing training of it on campus)prima facie seems harmless but
― drash, Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:39 (three years ago) Permalink
well, it's good to have some anecdotal evidence from people here that this isn't as big a deal as you might think based on articles like this.
it's funny that i don't ever really remember hearing people talk about "mindfulness" until i moved to western mass. though i don't know if it's a long-time western mass thing or just a recent faddish term. i've been here 6 years. i hear it all the time. speaking of cognitive therapy.
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:50 (three years ago) Permalink
not dismissing cock/ball torture in itself because obviously lots of people (lots and lots of people) are extremely anxious all the time and living in a whole assortment of horrible moments that aren't this one, and cbt as practical diy tool to solve this is probably plenty useful. (it's probably so useful that people use it all the time without knowing it; "teaching" it seems more like a matter of highlighting+formalizing one of your basic cognitive defenses.) however because its fundamental premise is your perceptions are distorted and its fundamental mechanism is replace them with this, it imo really and unfortunately lends itself to the culture wars, where there hadn't been a breakthrough in ages in the r&d of how to talk about certain people's insanity and irrationality and how to get them to see that the hegemonic perspective isn't really a "perspective" at all but in fact the realm of pure form. so recommending it be imposed en masse by a corporate bureaucracy for the good of its customers, as a way of fixing their alarming, inexplicable political dissatisfaction, doesn't seem to me like a road to compassion and mental health.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:52 (three years ago) Permalink
so are we just going redo that whole other thread in this thread
― j., Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:01 (three years ago) Permalink
seems to work for the atlantic
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:01 (three years ago) Permalink
you don't have to do anything!
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:02 (three years ago) Permalink
it's a free country! or is it....
never saw this as a college prof in the USA and haven't seen it yet in frogland though over here kids get yelled at a lot more, by parents, by teachers, than in the USA so I don't expect it to cross over here, if indeed it is a thing aux États-Unis
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:08 (three years ago) Permalink
xp :)(btw sorry for omission of 'j' in 'linked by j')
― drash, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:09 (three years ago) Permalink
links by j
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:12 (three years ago) Permalink
I think this culture exists (mostly) among politically active left-wing kids in relatively-elite universities. so a subset of a subset of college kids. that doesn't mean it's 'not a thing' but it's also not something you want to associate w/ a whole generation. I would guess the majority of American college students have never heard the term 'trigger warning'.
― iatee, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:15 (three years ago) Permalink
a related atlantic article http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/will-black-lives-matter-be-a-movement-that-persuades/407017/
On the left, I constantly see activists and cultural critics trying to police public discourse by calling out people who run afoul of their preferred social norms, even when the vast majority of the public does not share a given social norm. What if Americans all started hashing out our disagreements again instead? The social-justice movement in particular relies heavily on shaming and norm-policing, tactics responsible for a large part of its unpopularity and, I’d argue, its ineffectiveness. The left should start recognizing that its focus on policing social norms in enclaves where it wields unusual influence undermines its effectiveness everywhere else.
― iatee, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:18 (three years ago) Permalink
codling warning
http://cs4304.vk.me/u1753898/87471552/x_cbabc6e4.jpg
― kinder, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:18 (three years ago) Permalink
i just wanna know why their voices go up at the end of a sentence, and they all have the Valley Girl accent
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:23 (three years ago) Permalink
you mean, the young?
― j., Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:23 (three years ago) Permalink
Obama's fault
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:25 (three years ago) Permalink
uptalk is just a sign of a generation willing to question everything and anything
― iatee, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:26 (three years ago) Permalink
disruptors, is their appellation
― j., Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:41 (three years ago) Permalink
codling warninghttp://www.worldseafishing.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/mt_cobh_cod.jpg
― Aimless, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:45 (three years ago) Permalink
disruptors are throwing figurative bang snaps at the feet of startled normies everywhere.
― nomar, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:46 (three years ago) Permalink
please, it's neurotypicals
― j., Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:49 (three years ago) Permalink
i wonder if what is really at issue here is something like the "political" in carl schmitt's sense: the political as the space of legitimate conflict. or if schmitt's critique of liberalism as obscuring the political could be useful here.
― ryan, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:51 (three years ago) Permalink
oh boy, a whole other thread for this shit
― qualx, Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:56 (three years ago) Permalink
shit, now we've bummed out qualx too. good ol' qualx.
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 October 2015 20:01 (three years ago) Permalink
I don't work in academia, but I find it hard to believe that kids today are more "sensitive" or demand more coddling than they did a decade ago when I was in college. I feel like the trend pieces have been popular due to:
-The insane insecurity of the academic job market, and how easy it is lose work if you're not tenured. This is not necessarily the students' fault, but I get the impression reading these things that some academics feel besieged on all sides, and students are an easier scapegoat because students are more likely to be obnoxious and self-righteous than the administrators who are actually the ones with the power.-The fact that young people now have a "published" platform in the form of social media, particularly in the post-twitter age. So suddenly things that professors wouldn't have even heard about a decade ago may be more likely to develop publicly, and that has people nervous and scared. Even if there's a certain boogeyman quality to the whole thing.
Add this to editors knowing that bashing millennials will get you clicks, and you get a slew of stories like this.
― intheblanks, Saturday, 3 October 2015 21:11 (three years ago) Permalink
Also one thing that bothers me about a lot of these pieces is that they imply that trigger warnings let students opt out of course readings without providing any evidence that professors are actually allowing that. It's in the Atlantic article repeatedly.
― intheblanks, Saturday, 3 October 2015 21:15 (three years ago) Permalink
What are we doing to our students if we encourage them to develop extra-thin skin just before they leave the cocoon of adult protection?
Hopefully they will find the unmitigated courage to get a job writing for the Atlantic about how college kids are wimps.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 October 2015 21:59 (three years ago) Permalink
I read the thread title as The Coddling Of the American Mind (Trigger Warning -- Article in the Atlantic)
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 4 October 2015 02:03 (three years ago) Permalink
that was exactly how i read it too, a warning against articles in the atlantic, which is the sort of warning i'm cool with tbqh
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Sunday, 4 October 2015 02:20 (three years ago) Permalink
one of my typed-and-deleted posts this morning was "thread title needs a colon"
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 4 October 2015 02:22 (three years ago) Permalink
yeah I was thinking like trigger for IA at nu-Atlantic terribleness
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 4 October 2015 02:28 (three years ago) Permalink
intheblanks otm
there is also a totally lame element of "political correctness gone mad!!!!" bullshit imo
― marcos, Sunday, 4 October 2015 02:34 (three years ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 October 2015 20:01 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol <3
― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 October 2015 03:03 (three years ago) Permalink
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, October 3, 2015 1:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i would say "yes" except for one thing, i think they've largely lost the ability to read more than a few paragraphs at a time. all but the very the best students seem constitutionally unable to process an entire chapter (let alone an entire book) and follow an argument. i can even feel this happening to myself, gradually, as a result of spending too much time on the web.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 4 October 2015 05:02 (three years ago) Permalink
Also one thing that bothers me about a lot of these pieces is that they imply that trigger warnings let students opt out of course readings without providing any evidence that professors are actually allowing that. It's in the Atlantic article repeatedly.― intheblanks, Saturday, October 3, 2015 4:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― intheblanks, Saturday, October 3, 2015 4:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this sort of thing absolutely happens... sometimes... not often. basically these articles take a very real but marginal phenomenon and make it sound as if it's a majority practice at american universities. which it isn't.
that said, some of the things that always come up in these articles (like the "safe space" with stuffed animals and candy brown university set up when a pro-life speaker was on campus...or something like that) are so absurd that you really have to wonder what sort of echo chamber the people involved exist in that they don't recognize their own ridiculousness.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 4 October 2015 05:05 (three years ago) Permalink
the brown thing was hilarious in that it basically wrote one of thee articles about the infantilizing of undergraduates all by itself....
― wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 4 October 2015 05:06 (three years ago) Permalink
btw in addition to the points you might expect if you've spoken to a boomer in the past decade (the kids don't love america; where have you gone walter cronkite; war is great and unifying but "vietnam was different" for some reason we don't have time to go into) that essay also manages to slip in a blandly euphemized version of a real classic:
we didn’t manage the healing process well in the Reconstruction era
now of course, this is ambiguous! he doesn't actually say reconstruction was too harsh. maybe he means something else; maybe he means the opposite! it would be cool to know, because iirc the civil war and its aftermath is an important time in american history and anyone putting forth a big theory about why the country's gone where it's gone should probably be able to tell you whether they think reconstruction was too harsh or not. no time here, tho; gotta talk about tetherball. i wonder why the whole essay is on this weightless, empty level, tersely citing exceptions to its rules without explaining them and implying that something was wrong w reconstruction without specifying what, all while finding the time to go into multigraf detail on its pompous technical metaphors. i hope it is just because the guy does not know a whole lot.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:44 (one year ago) Permalink
It has always been wrong to bet against America, and it is probably wrong to do so now. My libertarian friends constantly remind me that people are resourceful; when problems get more severe, people get more inventive, and that might be happening to us right now.
maybe!
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:49 (one year ago) Permalink
only time, time itself, will tell
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:46 (one year ago) Permalink
My libertarian friends constantly remind me that people are resourceful; when problems get more severe, people get more inventive
Your libertarian friends are telling you that as an argument for immiserating the bulk of the population in order to help them achieve their innovation potential
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:51 (one year ago) Permalink
'it has always been wrong to bet against america'
i thought this guy was supposed to be a fucking scientist
― j., Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:04 (one year ago) Permalink
what a shitty article
― the late great, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:12 (one year ago) Permalink
oh now he's a professor of 'ethical leadership' in a business school
― j., Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:15 (one year ago) Permalink
https://78.media.tumblr.com/21f8d6a23104f7f1e0f0ef956945f97d/tumblr_oycsqzBRbh1vy747uo1_500.jpg
― the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 23:15 (one year ago) Permalink
I like the physics metaphors. That’s the only way I’m gonna communicate on ilx from now on.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 23:57 (one year ago) Permalink
http://alicedreger.com/Wellesley
All in all, I think the engagement at the Wellesley protest went well, even if it was an ironic lesson in the social construction of identity. A number of students came up to me to say they had really had their minds opened by realizing what they’re told about someone might not at all be true. A few told me they were planning to push back against the problem of what amounts to falsehood-based activism.So, I felt like I did a pretty good job for the students and faculty there. But it was impossible not to leave with a renewed sense of just how fucked up campuses are right now.
So, I felt like I did a pretty good job for the students and faculty there. But it was impossible not to leave with a renewed sense of just how fucked up campuses are right now.
― j., Monday, 19 February 2018 20:33 (one year ago) Permalink
a renewed sense of just how fucked up campuses are right now
It seems to me that the people who are creating fake Facebook and Twitter accounts impersonating her, and the Facebook and Twitter corporations who allow impersonations to persist, are the truly fucked-up people and entities. Students being taken in by such impersonations may be naïve or gullible, but that is not the same as fucked up.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 19 February 2018 20:46 (one year ago) Permalink
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-wonder-wayne-lapierre-is-on-edge/2018/02/23/3aedcab0-18af-11e8-b681-2d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.be1d376677ba
He saw a “tidal wave” of “European-style socialists bearing down upon us,” creating a “captive society,” eliminating “resistance,” making a “list” in a cloud database of those who spank their children, expunging the “fundamental concept of moral behavior,” controlling speech through “safe zones.”...LaPierre singled out three billionaire capitalists to blame for the socialist revolution: George Soros, Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer. But he saw conspirators everywhere in the government — Trump’s government: the FBI (with its “corruption” and “rogue leadership”) the Justice Department, the Environmental Protection Agency, the intelligence agencies. He also blamed the Democrats, media, Hollywood, universities, classrooms, Black Lives Matter, elites and Keith Ellison.Even the CPAC audience seemed to be stunned by this unhinged time-traveler from the Cold War. “You know, I hear a lot of quiet in this room, and I sense your anxiety,” he said. “And you should be anxious, and you should be frightened.”
...
LaPierre singled out three billionaire capitalists to blame for the socialist revolution: George Soros, Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer. But he saw conspirators everywhere in the government — Trump’s government: the FBI (with its “corruption” and “rogue leadership”) the Justice Department, the Environmental Protection Agency, the intelligence agencies. He also blamed the Democrats, media, Hollywood, universities, classrooms, Black Lives Matter, elites and Keith Ellison.
Even the CPAC audience seemed to be stunned by this unhinged time-traveler from the Cold War. “You know, I hear a lot of quiet in this room, and I sense your anxiety,” he said. “And you should be anxious, and you should be frightened.”
― j., Friday, 23 February 2018 19:37 (one year ago) Permalink
A certain ex-ilxor:
https://splinternews.com/if-you-truly-care-about-speech-you-will-invite-me-to-y-1823614969
If You Truly Care About Speech, You Will Invite Me to Your Office to Personally Call You a DipshitCivil society requires the toleration of the expression of opposing viewpoints, no matter how personally discomforting you may find them. Therefore, it would be profoundly hypocritical for the editorial staff of the New York Times opinion section not to immediately invite me to come to their offices to call them all morons and trolls.
Civil society requires the toleration of the expression of opposing viewpoints, no matter how personally discomforting you may find them. Therefore, it would be profoundly hypocritical for the editorial staff of the New York Times opinion section not to immediately invite me to come to their offices to call them all morons and trolls.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:37 (one year ago) Permalink
tick vg
nyt op-ed seems especially rudderless/clueless these days even for them
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:41 (one year ago) Permalink
Pareene was on ILX?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:49 (one year ago) Permalink
One of Pareene's best. It even got Lawyers Guns & Money linkage.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:49 (one year ago) Permalink
he was here for quite awhile!
xpost
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:51 (one year ago) Permalink
My local alt-weekly’s resident Bari Weiss fan wrote a great article today detailing the history of Satanic child abuse hysteria and then comparing it to the current calls for a boycott of a local business over an allegedly racially-motivated firing.
― JoeStork, Friday, 9 March 2018 00:36 (one year ago) Permalink
Did Sommers actually have to cut her speech short as a result of the heckling? That seems like a key point.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 03:12 (one year ago) Permalink
David French has some words for y'all sliming Bari Weiss!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 March 2018 03:14 (one year ago) Permalink
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/03/08/after-a-worried-howard-student-emailed-her-president-about-housing-he-replied-about-her-tone/?utm_term=.162a155e1e56
ahh yeah this is the stuff
― j., Friday, 9 March 2018 05:49 (one year ago) Permalink
grownups with power really are the worst
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 9 March 2018 08:16 (one year ago) Permalink
was the response incorrect do u just not agree with his..........tone......................................
― things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Friday, 9 March 2018 09:09 (one year ago) Permalink
Because I do think that a university's obligation to allow student groups to invite speakers of varying persuasions on various topics, and to allow these speakers to speak without being shut down by hecklers, is greater than an editorial board's (or e.g. the university administration's) obligation to allow someone to insult them privately in their office. Neither is really a free speech issue in the legal sense but I do think there is an academic freedom issue here. Perhaps an argument could be made in cases where e.g. a speaker might single out and harass individual students but I definitely don't think that Christina Hoff Sommers is an example of this.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:14 (one year ago) Permalink
the academic freedom to give a platform to dumb-as-a-rock speakers must be upheld
― War, Famine, Pestilence, Death, Umami (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:19 (one year ago) Permalink
Um, yes, that is my position (although I don't agree that Sommers is dumb as a rock, even when I disagree with her).
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:26 (one year ago) Permalink
I'm glad that's your position but it's important that you know that it's not the position of this particular vein of "free speech activists," whose position is that it's a big problem for free speech if hollering students delay a speech by five minutes, but nbd when speakers with political beliefs that might offend state legislators are barred by the administration from appearing on campus in the first place, or are fired by universities when already employed there.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 March 2018 16:22 (one year ago) Permalink
Well, the latter sort concerns me more and my posts to these threads probably show as much. That doesn't mean that one can't be concerned about both things. One can also both be frustrated by the hypocrisy of selective 'free speech activists' and disagree with the parallel that Pareene seems to be implying.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 18:08 (one year ago) Permalink
The local Muslim Students’ Association wanted to invite a speaker to ASU. *The university sent a contract stipulating that any speaker that comes cannot be involved in the BDS movement.*This is a gross violation of free speech*Therefore, we are suing.https://t.co/wWprq2lGOD pic.twitter.com/tzdZ8krRhc— Imraan Siddiqi (@imraansiddiqi) March 2, 2018
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:49 (one year ago) Permalink
honestly, fuck bari weiss
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/03/10/a-new-york-times-columnist-blamed-a-far-left-mob-for-her-woes-but-maybe-she-deserves-them/?utm_term=.011ca33e674f
― maura, Sunday, 11 March 2018 18:45 (one year ago) Permalink
For this tweet I am being told I am a racist
― j., Sunday, 11 March 2018 18:55 (one year ago) Permalink
isnt this the lady with an extensive twitter history of using slurs and shit?
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:30 (one year ago) Permalink
ah, this is the lady who thinks Hamilton makes it ok for members of the press to call people immigrants even if they were born in the country
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:42 (one year ago) Permalink
Lol: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/david-brooks-times-conservatives.html
― Frederik B, Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:08 (one year ago) Permalink
No, that was Quinn Norton, who was (publicly) hired and sacked within a 24-hour timespan.
― Simon H., Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:12 (one year ago) Permalink
Double lol: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/02/afflictions
― Frederik B, Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:20 (one year ago) Permalink
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/andrew-sullivan-is-this-the-beginning-of-trumps-end.html
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:22 (one year ago) Permalink
scroll to the bottom for Sully's weekly screed on lib intolerance
ross 'relentlessly careful and smooth' douthat
― j., Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:40 (one year ago) Permalink
god that's a lot of paragraphs of robert mueller fan fiction
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Sunday, 11 March 2018 23:34 (one year ago) Permalink
andrew "daddy issues" sullivan
― map, Monday, 12 March 2018 01:08 (one year ago) Permalink
http://text-patterns.thenewatlantis.com/2018/03/more-on-offensive-ideas.html
http://blog.ayjay.org/embrace-the-pain-living-with-the-repugnant-cultural-other/
― j., Monday, 12 March 2018 01:43 (one year ago) Permalink
https://www.minnpost.com/education/2018/03/edina-young-conservatives-club-lawsuit-inspires-bill-legislature
“Let me be very clear, I think the emotion and the fear and the retaliation and the anger and the hurt that we have heard, regarding what has happened in one of our schools — and perhaps many other schools — is something we, as education leaders, need to take very seriously,” Nelson said, referring to Edina high schoolers who’d testified in support of her bill. “I do not believe it’s the job of a teacher to tell a student that his or her opinion — or their parents’ opinions — are wrong. But it is their job to make sure that we have a fair and academic balance when we talk about these controversial issues.”
that's the R talking, about presumably butthurt bad faith conservative highschoolers
― j., Monday, 12 March 2018 17:57 (one year ago) Permalink
Edina, huh?
The town so white, Anglo-Saxon and Protestant that it’s school mascot is a fucking hornet.
― kim jong deal (suzy), Monday, 12 March 2018 18:11 (one year ago) Permalink
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2018/03/09/oconomowoc-schools-impose-limits-privilege-discussions-after-parents-complain/407222002/
meanwhile in wisconsin
― j., Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:01 (one year ago) Permalink
might be hope for the states yet
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:17 (one year ago) Permalink
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/645/my-effing-first-amendment
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 12 May 2018 19:00 (one year ago) Permalink
Bari Weiss just won a 0,000 prize for good writing https://t.co/Q3rCrMpwA8 pic.twitter.com/nWPQXSmQZM— Hamilton Nolan (@hamiltonnolan) July 18, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:51 (eleven months ago) Permalink
Remembering this classic from the @CillizzaCNN AMA pic.twitter.com/9XXCyAGIIU— noah ☭ (@voidsrus) July 18, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/26/the-free-speech-panic-censorship-how-the-right-concocted-a-crisis
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 26 July 2018 05:53 (ten months ago) Permalink