the new USA show MR. ROBOT: the rise of Rami Malek and the inexplicable solidness of Christian Slater

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YOOOOOOO is anyone watching this show? this came out of nowhere, is on a network not exactly known for prestige and is pretty remarkable in its first 2 episodes. basically an anonymous type hacking group vs a diabolical megacorporation. it does so many things that shouldn't work - extreme voiceover, making its political views so blatant - but they do work.

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2015/04/27/mr-robot-society.jpg

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 July 2015 03:39 (five years ago) link

er rather

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2015/04/27/mr-robot-society.jpg

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 July 2015 03:40 (five years ago) link

ok lol I'm drunkish and can't post w/e this show rules. watch it.

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 July 2015 03:41 (five years ago) link

this is so fuckin good

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 05:02 (five years ago) link

like some of the dialogue ("thats....when i decided to hack you") & a little of the fsociety stuff (dropping OWS clips into the agit-prop vid starring a guy in a sub-Fawkes mask lol) is too on-the-nose, but i could see this dropping some of the more overt signifiers & getting even better. the paranoia is so nicely screwed in.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 05:06 (five years ago) link

the voiceover actually is really what makes this work i think like

except for that second episode hiccup ("did he let me?") it almost seems to be operating at just the same speed as the viewer, which is impressive

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 05:08 (five years ago) link

this is basically just Dexter. pretty cool so far tho

Spottie, Thursday, 9 July 2015 07:03 (five years ago) link

I watched the first 2 eps & it was okay, but im not gonna stick w it

hoos is prob the #1 target demo fwiw

johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 July 2015 13:49 (five years ago) link

At first I didn't think I'd be able to handle that bug-eyed freak staring at me for an hour a week (not even getting into the Christian Slater factor), but this is actually not terrible. It has a better grasp of computers than CSI: Cyber, which is nice. As summer TV goes, we could all do a lot worse.

NB: The big discussion around the show is how much of it/how many major characters (Mr. Robot in particular) are actually the main dude's Tyler Durden-like hallucinations. I'm not sure yet whether the eventual reveal will make it more or less interesting.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 9 July 2015 14:52 (five years ago) link

this is basically just Dexter. pretty cool so far tho

― Spottie, Thursday, July 9, 2015 7:03 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idg the comparison here

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:16 (five years ago) link

alienated from society, walks around with a voiceover describing how he doesn't fit in but he wears a mask and pretends to.

that seems pretty much the emotional appeal of both shows to me.

got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:33 (five years ago) link

I definitely get the Dexter comparison. Narration from the main character, a job that runs in parallel to criminal dealings, empathy for the dude even if he's doing some bad stuff

on the other hand, I really hope they keep going with the unreliable narration angle

Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:47 (five years ago) link

haven't watched the third one, but did anyone else get a vibe from the first couple that Christian Slater's character could possibly not exist?

Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:48 (five years ago) link

I really enjoyed the first episode, i really like the look of the show, can't believe its on USA tbh

was fun to see slater again! i forget how distinctive he is in his mannerisms and way he talks

where is the kid from? he's great

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:50 (five years ago) link

haven't watched the third one, but did anyone else get a vibe from the first couple that Christian Slater's character could possibly not exist?

― Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya def, though imo he throws the whole fsociety squad into question too--we see them interact with him separately from elliot, don't we?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:06 (five years ago) link

xp he's most notably burned into my brain due to a particularly horrific scene in THE PACIFIC, in which he is great and kind of terrifying

also in one of the twilight movies, the master, short term 12, the oldboy remake, a bunch of TV besides the pacific including 24

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:49 (five years ago) link

really hope that slater isn't a tyler durden character, that would be lame

i've also only watched 2 eps but i am definitely into it, this + unreal = a shockingly good tv summer

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:21 (five years ago) link

I would try UnReal if it was on Hulu.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:35 (five years ago) link

due to a particularly horrific scene in THE PACIFIC

omg i forgot about this and i wish it had stayed forgotten

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:38 (five years ago) link

I'm sorry man :/ I legit have never forgotten it

slothroprhymes, Friday, 10 July 2015 01:47 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this show is 5 eps in and despite being an absurd high-wire act that seems like it could fall apart at any second it has remained fucking great

the drug trip episode was amazing, the heist too

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 01:49 (five years ago) link

I like that it's been breaking out of Eliot's perspective in the last couple eps, it's helped open up the world and make the whole thing feel a little less adolescent

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 01:51 (five years ago) link

exactly! like as much as I admire its commitment to Elliot's viewpoint overall because it's reflected in such a strong voice the supporting characters have their own - albeit occasionally nebulous - voice and agency, especially angela and the drug dealer (I can't remember anyone's name atm I'm a tad tipsy)

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 01:56 (five years ago) link

the corporate swede and even the now locked up dope connect as well provide really strong impressions in their POV scenes

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 01:58 (five years ago) link

Can't watch it anymore - it's become one of those shows that's only accessible on Hulu if you have cable. Of course, if I had cable, I wouldn't be watching shows on fucking Hulu.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 24 July 2015 02:10 (five years ago) link

just use one of the questionably legal sites man it's worth it!

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 02:32 (five years ago) link

(or borrow a cable password from somebody)

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 02:33 (five years ago) link

Totally enjoying this. The plotting is fine, but it's mostly the production -- so well made, very Fincher-y but with its own subdued weirdness -- and the cast. Rami Malek especially, but most of the leads are good, especially the women. Christian Slater is basically doing his Pump Up the Volume character 25 years on, which is ok but I'm glad he's not the focus of the show.

getting Jim McKay to direct a bunch of it was a good call

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 03:42 (five years ago) link

haven't watched the third one, but did anyone else get a vibe from the first couple that Christian Slater's character could possibly not exist?

― Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:48 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this seems altogether possible considering that the point of the show is to carry out Tyler Durden's dream?

mystified that people are excited about this boring show, death to voiceover.

teenage good-ass kinja turtles (some dude), Friday, 24 July 2015 03:46 (five years ago) link

al do you even like fun

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 03:59 (five years ago) link

afaict no

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 24 July 2015 05:06 (five years ago) link

i mean when christian slater is the most fun thing about your show, i question how fun your show is

teenage good-ass kinja turtles (some dude), Friday, 24 July 2015 05:13 (five years ago) link

entertaining prob a better word than fun, and unpredictable

voiceover is good here if only bc it's so thoroughly subjective to elliot, it doesn't exist (for the most part) to fill in storytelling gaps, it puts you in this damaged mind in a way that another method couldn't.

and sure I suppoze it can be compared to having the "anti-corporate 4 life skate or die mannnnn" viewpoint of fight club or w/e but I think it's manifested with greater complexity by far here, there is nuance that's not present in fight club - like the hackers question what their revolution would actually accomplish at times instead of being true believers all the way

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:49 (five years ago) link

also, while the anti-corporate viewpoint (that admittedly sometimes resembles that of someone who just read no logo or something) might seem like nothin new to a lot of us in a place like ILX, I'm still somewhat surprised that it's being paid for by nbc/universal.

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:52 (five years ago) link

then again the counterargument as voiced in that one black mirror episode is that that's part of the plan so, shit.

this show rules

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:54 (five years ago) link

the show is definitely getting increasingly fun. I've come to really like the trio of women, esp Shayla, who got the best line of this last episode ("...Obamacare.")

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:59 (five years ago) link

the voiceover is interesting because half the time he addresses "you" and it's obviously something else in his head that he's talking to

or he's talking to christian slater

Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 24 July 2015 13:30 (five years ago) link

imo the ideal would be that by the end of the season we find out, in a casual way, that Eliot's been hallucinating Slater, but only some of the time.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 14:08 (five years ago) link

enough ppl have been addressing slater directly that i'm beginning to think he might be a real person, but that wouldn't stop elliot from hallucinating him in certain situations necessarily given how often he hallucinates in general, so that could make sense

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 14:42 (five years ago) link

I think (hope) the show's too smart to steal the Tyler Durden riff wholecloth. It's Durden-esque enough without having him actually be imaginary. I feel like it teased that idea early on, when he goes back to the boardwalk and they're all gone, but then resolved that they are actually real.

i dunno if people have been addressing slater directly - it always seems a bit ambiguous to me whether they're speaking to him or elliott.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 24 July 2015 14:47 (five years ago) link

i can't help thinking of this show as 'mr rowboat' for some reason btw

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 24 July 2015 14:47 (five years ago) link

pleeeease don't fight club

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 26 July 2015 11:09 (five years ago) link

so yeah i guess they did just kinda flirt with this & then back away from it

i wish to take a long drive to the sounds of this show's synth score

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 26 July 2015 14:36 (five years ago) link

although slater does speak to other characters in the last episode, Elliot isn't involved in the conversation and is almost invisible in his black clothes against a black arcade machine. when slater storms off after arguing with darlene Elliot steps in and starts talking - they never interact with the other characters at the same time. there's definitely a case to be made that elliot and Mr rowboat are alternate personalities, as much as I hope they're just fucking with us.

bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 26 July 2015 16:37 (five years ago) link

yeah i was eagle eyeing that and actually enjoyed the degree to which it felt like they were fucking with us by having robot's voice literally in elliot's head during the steel mountain sequence

also lol @ 'steel mountain,' are we all aware of irl offsite data storage facility 'iron mountain'

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/291278/images/iron-mountain.png

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 26 July 2015 19:58 (five years ago) link

iron mountain was one of my company's clients :/

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Sunday, 26 July 2015 20:02 (five years ago) link

my last job used iron mountain for everything!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 26 July 2015 20:21 (five years ago) link

Back for season 4. Everyone’s in a dark place.

I am using your worlds, Monday, 7 October 2019 16:29 (ten months ago) link

halfway through this first episode and it's off to a good start. jake busey cameo! violence! a fully in control mr robot binary!

mh, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 01:22 (ten months ago) link

revisited the pilot recently and am kind of in awe at how far off the rails the show went from there. I will probably still begrudgingly catch s4 at some point.

Simon H., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 04:01 (ten months ago) link

I can't really remember how we got here but that was a good episode!

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 23:29 (ten months ago) link

I only have a vague memory of season 2 (which I bailed on toward the end, I think) but I felt like it made a huge mistake in trying to make things make sense. Season 1 didn't need to be continued on and clarified.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 23:40 (ten months ago) link

Whyyyyy do I do this? Two episodes deep and there's *still* nearly no story to this PoS show, but it looks and sounds so good.

Maresn3st, Monday, 14 October 2019 14:44 (nine months ago) link

I have no clue what is going on in this show too but then read last year that BD Wong also couldn't remember what was going on before he started season 3.

Yerac, Monday, 14 October 2019 14:55 (nine months ago) link

The exchanges between Elliot and his sister are so glacial it's like watching an episode of Jam, I wish they'd speed it up slightly, it's boring as fuck to watch. The whole second episode looks like Eyes Wide Shut though, I'm digging that.

Maresn3st, Monday, 14 October 2019 15:45 (nine months ago) link

S4E2 lots of nothing and the uh "twist" goes back to the show's worst tendencies

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:34 (nine months ago) link

honestly I watched about half of the s4 premiere and then bailed. in retrospect it really seems like Esmail and co. just had no clue what to do with the non-Elliot characters even as he kept adding more and more of them.

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:42 (nine months ago) link

I've seen speculation that Angela's fate was the product of some real-life interpersonal drama but honestly given how wasted other female characters have been who could even tell

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:47 (nine months ago) link

Now it feels like I'm watching Season 5 of Lost or something where they're *still* pissing around running from one side of the island to the next to do 'a thing', completely beholden to the conceit laid out in the first twenty minutes of the very first episode.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:57 (nine months ago) link

tobias: best new incidental character

mh, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:34 (nine months ago) link

I didn't spot the gimmick for this episode until the very end - well done, I guess? Apart from that almost nothing happened, just moving pieces around.

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 15:17 (nine months ago) link

Is the gimmick that there was no dialogue?

Yelploaf, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 19:13 (nine months ago) link

Great episode; best of the season. And Young M.A.! What with Joey Badass I'm guessing Sam Esmail is a backpacker hip hop nerd.

Yelploaf, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 19:24 (nine months ago) link

This show is simultaneously amazing and garbage in a way nothing else is.

29 facepalms, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:09 (nine months ago) link

xps - yep

also not an xp - yep

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:40 (nine months ago) link

Enjoyed the last two, what was the gimmick though?

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:10 (nine months ago) link

Oh wait, no dialogue?

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:11 (nine months ago) link

yep

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:53 (nine months ago) link

Has it ever been clarified the purpose of the machine that White Rose is building/built?

Maresn3st, Thursday, 7 November 2019 09:56 (nine months ago) link

It's a dead-mom-bringing-back machine

Dan I., Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:15 (nine months ago) link

makes all your dead parents forever live in your head

Elliot's the first test subject

mh, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:02 (nine months ago) link

Man these last two weeks have sucked. The Vera character is so lame.

SPOILERS

And all of this crap is in service of a cheap child abuse revelation. I dunno, I know all the TV auteurs claim they are more interested in characters than plot, but when Esmail assembles such a (mostly) mediocre cast and give them cliched and not-very-interesting things to say, maybe it would have been better to focus on the plot. The hacker heist bits are definitely my favorite parts of the show.

DJI, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 21:53 (eight months ago) link

plot reveals character!

j., Wednesday, 20 November 2019 04:26 (eight months ago) link

At last! Also lolz at Trump in the Deus groop gathering.

Maresn3st, Monday, 2 December 2019 22:58 (eight months ago) link

fun episode

love 2 put all my infinite money in one bank and get all my friends to do the same thing

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 2 December 2019 23:37 (eight months ago) link

Anybody still watching this thing? Penultimate episode dropped last night, two-hour finale next weekend. I feel like I've spent the entire season slowly recalling all of the things I'd forgotten about previous seasons. Not unconvinced it's all gonna be nonsense in the end, but we've gotten a few years of nicely-filmed sturm und drang out of the deal, and that ain't nothin'.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 December 2019 13:51 (seven months ago) link

I am still watching! Haven't seen the latest episode though.

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 16 December 2019 14:23 (seven months ago) link

Still watching, what a time to hit the button though, right at the end of the whole thing, interested to see what the actual fuck is going to happen now.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 11:15 (seven months ago) link

I'm withholding judgment and trying to just enjoy the ride (an approach that I find is the most constructive way to enjoy this show), but I'm hard-pressed to think of any explanation for the sudden shift in the status quo that won't be disappointing. Every show and movie in existence is banking on high concept at the moment, so if you're going that route you really gotta wow the audience with something unexpected.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:07 (seven months ago) link

I still haven't started the last season and I have a feeling I might just bail on it.

Yerac, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:09 (seven months ago) link

At this point in this kind of show all I really want is for them to not completely mess up the ending. This episode was fine! I'm making myself not waste time on speculation - the plot will go wherever Esmail wants it to - and yeah, just enjoy the ride.

(though I'm pretty sure it's the same Tyrell that got lost in the words; and why no Darlene? Mrs. Alderson had an affair, and that didn't happen in the new timeline?)

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:15 (seven months ago) link

lost in the *woods*

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:15 (seven months ago) link

white rose looking good in the end times

mh, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:25 (seven months ago) link

however it ends, the journey was worth it imo - especially this last season! writing, cinematography and performances have all been ON POINT. The malek/wong staredown in the latest episode was a particular high point.

Legacy of Banality (Pillbox), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:35 (seven months ago) link

I didn't expect the Elliot Instrumentality Project, but I'm tentatively on board. I always liked Eva's ending.

OneSecondBefore, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:42 (seven months ago) link

I think they stuck the landing

mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 04:12 (seven months ago) link

I stopped watching but I guess they went full St Elsewhere with it?

Simon H., Monday, 23 December 2019 13:42 (seven months ago) link

I am thinking of just watching the finale and not the rest of the final season.

Yerac, Monday, 23 December 2019 13:49 (seven months ago) link

same tbh

Simon H., Monday, 23 December 2019 13:49 (seven months ago) link

I’d throw in the preceding episode as well

mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 15:40 (seven months ago) link

Fuck this candy-ass Dallas bullshit and fuck M83

Maresn3st, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:13 (seven months ago) link

At least he didn't move to Canada and become a lumberjack.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:49 (seven months ago) link

so yeah huh

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:57 (seven months ago) link

I wasn't expecting the finale to be an extended riff on Inside Out

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:58 (seven months ago) link

Agree, stuck the landing, for me. Wasn't expecting the reveal and loved how the reintegration was shown.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 03:28 (seven months ago) link

Just finished the finale, literally came here to type the phrase 'stuck the landing'. Glad to see I'm not alone! Esmail adroitly sailed between the cyberpunk Scylla and the multiversal Charybdis he'd set the audience up to expect. It ended in a much more satisfying and internally-consistent fashion than some of the shows I've deeply loved (I think I've settled on a designation of 'pretty darn good' for this particular show).

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 03:06 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:29 (six months ago) link


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