the new USA show MR. ROBOT: the rise of Rami Malek and the inexplicable solidness of Christian Slater

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YOOOOOOO is anyone watching this show? this came out of nowhere, is on a network not exactly known for prestige and is pretty remarkable in its first 2 episodes. basically an anonymous type hacking group vs a diabolical megacorporation. it does so many things that shouldn't work - extreme voiceover, making its political views so blatant - but they do work.

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2015/04/27/mr-robot-society.jpg

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 July 2015 03:39 (four years ago) link

er rather

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2015/04/27/mr-robot-society.jpg

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 July 2015 03:40 (four years ago) link

ok lol I'm drunkish and can't post w/e this show rules. watch it.

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 July 2015 03:41 (four years ago) link

this is so fuckin good

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 05:02 (four years ago) link

like some of the dialogue ("thats....when i decided to hack you") & a little of the fsociety stuff (dropping OWS clips into the agit-prop vid starring a guy in a sub-Fawkes mask lol) is too on-the-nose, but i could see this dropping some of the more overt signifiers & getting even better. the paranoia is so nicely screwed in.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 05:06 (four years ago) link

the voiceover actually is really what makes this work i think like

except for that second episode hiccup ("did he let me?") it almost seems to be operating at just the same speed as the viewer, which is impressive

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 05:08 (four years ago) link

this is basically just Dexter. pretty cool so far tho

Spottie, Thursday, 9 July 2015 07:03 (four years ago) link

I watched the first 2 eps & it was okay, but im not gonna stick w it

hoos is prob the #1 target demo fwiw

johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 July 2015 13:49 (four years ago) link

At first I didn't think I'd be able to handle that bug-eyed freak staring at me for an hour a week (not even getting into the Christian Slater factor), but this is actually not terrible. It has a better grasp of computers than CSI: Cyber, which is nice. As summer TV goes, we could all do a lot worse.

NB: The big discussion around the show is how much of it/how many major characters (Mr. Robot in particular) are actually the main dude's Tyler Durden-like hallucinations. I'm not sure yet whether the eventual reveal will make it more or less interesting.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 9 July 2015 14:52 (four years ago) link

this is basically just Dexter. pretty cool so far tho

― Spottie, Thursday, July 9, 2015 7:03 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idg the comparison here

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:16 (four years ago) link

alienated from society, walks around with a voiceover describing how he doesn't fit in but he wears a mask and pretends to.

that seems pretty much the emotional appeal of both shows to me.

got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:33 (four years ago) link

I definitely get the Dexter comparison. Narration from the main character, a job that runs in parallel to criminal dealings, empathy for the dude even if he's doing some bad stuff

on the other hand, I really hope they keep going with the unreliable narration angle

Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:47 (four years ago) link

haven't watched the third one, but did anyone else get a vibe from the first couple that Christian Slater's character could possibly not exist?

Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:48 (four years ago) link

I really enjoyed the first episode, i really like the look of the show, can't believe its on USA tbh

was fun to see slater again! i forget how distinctive he is in his mannerisms and way he talks

where is the kid from? he's great

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:50 (four years ago) link

haven't watched the third one, but did anyone else get a vibe from the first couple that Christian Slater's character could possibly not exist?

― Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya def, though imo he throws the whole fsociety squad into question too--we see them interact with him separately from elliot, don't we?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:06 (four years ago) link

xp he's most notably burned into my brain due to a particularly horrific scene in THE PACIFIC, in which he is great and kind of terrifying

also in one of the twilight movies, the master, short term 12, the oldboy remake, a bunch of TV besides the pacific including 24

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:49 (four years ago) link

really hope that slater isn't a tyler durden character, that would be lame

i've also only watched 2 eps but i am definitely into it, this + unreal = a shockingly good tv summer

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:21 (four years ago) link

I would try UnReal if it was on Hulu.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:35 (four years ago) link

due to a particularly horrific scene in THE PACIFIC

omg i forgot about this and i wish it had stayed forgotten

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:38 (four years ago) link

I'm sorry man :/ I legit have never forgotten it

slothroprhymes, Friday, 10 July 2015 01:47 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this show is 5 eps in and despite being an absurd high-wire act that seems like it could fall apart at any second it has remained fucking great

the drug trip episode was amazing, the heist too

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 01:49 (four years ago) link

I like that it's been breaking out of Eliot's perspective in the last couple eps, it's helped open up the world and make the whole thing feel a little less adolescent

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 01:51 (four years ago) link

exactly! like as much as I admire its commitment to Elliot's viewpoint overall because it's reflected in such a strong voice the supporting characters have their own - albeit occasionally nebulous - voice and agency, especially angela and the drug dealer (I can't remember anyone's name atm I'm a tad tipsy)

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 01:56 (four years ago) link

the corporate swede and even the now locked up dope connect as well provide really strong impressions in their POV scenes

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 01:58 (four years ago) link

Can't watch it anymore - it's become one of those shows that's only accessible on Hulu if you have cable. Of course, if I had cable, I wouldn't be watching shows on fucking Hulu.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 24 July 2015 02:10 (four years ago) link

just use one of the questionably legal sites man it's worth it!

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 02:32 (four years ago) link

(or borrow a cable password from somebody)

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 02:33 (four years ago) link

Totally enjoying this. The plotting is fine, but it's mostly the production -- so well made, very Fincher-y but with its own subdued weirdness -- and the cast. Rami Malek especially, but most of the leads are good, especially the women. Christian Slater is basically doing his Pump Up the Volume character 25 years on, which is ok but I'm glad he's not the focus of the show.

getting Jim McKay to direct a bunch of it was a good call

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 03:42 (four years ago) link

haven't watched the third one, but did anyone else get a vibe from the first couple that Christian Slater's character could possibly not exist?

― Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:48 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this seems altogether possible considering that the point of the show is to carry out Tyler Durden's dream?

mystified that people are excited about this boring show, death to voiceover.

teenage good-ass kinja turtles (some dude), Friday, 24 July 2015 03:46 (four years ago) link

al do you even like fun

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 03:59 (four years ago) link

afaict no

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 24 July 2015 05:06 (four years ago) link

i mean when christian slater is the most fun thing about your show, i question how fun your show is

teenage good-ass kinja turtles (some dude), Friday, 24 July 2015 05:13 (four years ago) link

entertaining prob a better word than fun, and unpredictable

voiceover is good here if only bc it's so thoroughly subjective to elliot, it doesn't exist (for the most part) to fill in storytelling gaps, it puts you in this damaged mind in a way that another method couldn't.

and sure I suppoze it can be compared to having the "anti-corporate 4 life skate or die mannnnn" viewpoint of fight club or w/e but I think it's manifested with greater complexity by far here, there is nuance that's not present in fight club - like the hackers question what their revolution would actually accomplish at times instead of being true believers all the way

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:49 (four years ago) link

also, while the anti-corporate viewpoint (that admittedly sometimes resembles that of someone who just read no logo or something) might seem like nothin new to a lot of us in a place like ILX, I'm still somewhat surprised that it's being paid for by nbc/universal.

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:52 (four years ago) link

then again the counterargument as voiced in that one black mirror episode is that that's part of the plan so, shit.

this show rules

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:54 (four years ago) link

the show is definitely getting increasingly fun. I've come to really like the trio of women, esp Shayla, who got the best line of this last episode ("...Obamacare.")

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:59 (four years ago) link

the voiceover is interesting because half the time he addresses "you" and it's obviously something else in his head that he's talking to

or he's talking to christian slater

Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 24 July 2015 13:30 (four years ago) link

imo the ideal would be that by the end of the season we find out, in a casual way, that Eliot's been hallucinating Slater, but only some of the time.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 14:08 (four years ago) link

enough ppl have been addressing slater directly that i'm beginning to think he might be a real person, but that wouldn't stop elliot from hallucinating him in certain situations necessarily given how often he hallucinates in general, so that could make sense

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 July 2015 14:42 (four years ago) link

I think (hope) the show's too smart to steal the Tyler Durden riff wholecloth. It's Durden-esque enough without having him actually be imaginary. I feel like it teased that idea early on, when he goes back to the boardwalk and they're all gone, but then resolved that they are actually real.

i dunno if people have been addressing slater directly - it always seems a bit ambiguous to me whether they're speaking to him or elliott.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 24 July 2015 14:47 (four years ago) link

i can't help thinking of this show as 'mr rowboat' for some reason btw

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 24 July 2015 14:47 (four years ago) link

pleeeease don't fight club

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 26 July 2015 11:09 (four years ago) link

so yeah i guess they did just kinda flirt with this & then back away from it

i wish to take a long drive to the sounds of this show's synth score

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 26 July 2015 14:36 (four years ago) link

although slater does speak to other characters in the last episode, Elliot isn't involved in the conversation and is almost invisible in his black clothes against a black arcade machine. when slater storms off after arguing with darlene Elliot steps in and starts talking - they never interact with the other characters at the same time. there's definitely a case to be made that elliot and Mr rowboat are alternate personalities, as much as I hope they're just fucking with us.

bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 26 July 2015 16:37 (four years ago) link

yeah i was eagle eyeing that and actually enjoyed the degree to which it felt like they were fucking with us by having robot's voice literally in elliot's head during the steel mountain sequence

also lol @ 'steel mountain,' are we all aware of irl offsite data storage facility 'iron mountain'

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/291278/images/iron-mountain.png

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 26 July 2015 19:58 (four years ago) link

iron mountain was one of my company's clients :/

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Sunday, 26 July 2015 20:02 (four years ago) link

my last job used iron mountain for everything!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 26 July 2015 20:21 (four years ago) link

rewatched the 1st episode & i feel like they dropped certain threads that made it super interesting ... his depression/addiction hasn't really reared its head as much, now feels much more paranoiac than depressive. 1st ep they show him sobbing in a corner from loneliness, kind of let that go

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 24 November 2017 23:44 (two years ago) link

Yeah now his loneliness has been cured thanks to all of his “friends” being murdered except the white ones

El Tomboto, Friday, 24 November 2017 23:49 (two years ago) link

the two characters who have been offscreen for most of a full season were scapegoated, yeah

I liked those two but more BD Wong + Joey Bada$$ is fine for me

feel really bad for his therapist finally getting the point

mh, Saturday, 25 November 2017 04:28 (two years ago) link

Agree this season is way better than s2 although still as deeply flawed as it’s been all along

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 27 November 2017 10:53 (two years ago) link

at this point I'm grateful for more shows that try things and have some foundational flaws after watching too many boilerplate genre exercises

mh, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:54 (two years ago) link

yeah i can roll with that. the last few eps have been very uniquely compelling

it is frustrating to see a show that's, to paraphrase a review, about how the world is bullshit that seems to not quite have a handle on its own bullshit, but it does seem to have a lot of new ideas about what tv can do that i appreciate

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 27 November 2017 20:05 (two years ago) link

lots of otm ideas about Frasier

mh, Monday, 27 November 2017 20:25 (two years ago) link

This week's episode made me tear up a few times.

DJI, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:00 (two years ago) link

this episode was really good, it really makes me question whether they have control of what they're doing at the same time that they do it with confidence which is kind of a rare feeling, the uncertainty/amateur elements contrasted w the crafted certainty... the unnatural dialogue that is maybe actually natural ... i dont know, it's very interesting even if i'm left wondering if i think its working or not. 'am i falling for sentimentalism, or is this real?' They do a great job of staying unpredictable which maybe is all i need it to be

anyway, at least its not boring like season 2

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 1 December 2017 19:26 (two years ago) link

people keep telling me to watch this season but I'm gonna wait for the finale to see if it makes people angry all over again

Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 19:27 (two years ago) link

I knew what the kid was going to say when asked where in Jersey he was born but it still made my heart sink

mh, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:47 (two years ago) link

the worst parts of this show are the lazy catcher in the rye-like lampooning of Types of people which has been present from the first episode (Can you believe Angela's boyfriend likes mainstreamer culture??) bc even though hes a 'character' expressing these kinds of feelings it feels like the show shares those attitudes in i.e. the characterization of tyrell wellick & his wife

that stuff feels so jarringly naive but i also cant anticipate where any individual episode is headed & he's going after stuff no one else really addresses in television & its tonal shifts are really disorienting in a way that feels reflective of modern life

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 1 December 2017 19:53 (two years ago) link

I think the conceit's barely used but there's the unreliable narrator framing where we're being told the story through Elliot's eyes and the early attitudes toward some of the characters seemed like we're getting his view of them, not necessarily a well-rounded view

mh, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:55 (two years ago) link

true though the tyrell wellick stuff seemed fairly well grounded (him murdering that woman felt like the main off-note for me in the first season, it was like we shifted suddenly to a schlocky american psycho knock off)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:38 (two years ago) link

I think I'm with Simon H. Rami Malek's acting is fucking incredible but the show slid into a confused clusterfuck in a bad way throughout season 2 and I'm still burnt out on the characters

davey, Saturday, 2 December 2017 12:29 (two years ago) link

This last episode was incoherent. What a weird show

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 9 December 2017 19:19 (two years ago) link

It's going in circles and making me crazy.

MaresNest, Saturday, 9 December 2017 20:59 (two years ago) link

Yeah this one felt like it was written last minute at the tail end of a cocaine bender

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 9 December 2017 23:40 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Posts I intended to write a week ago: I finally watched all of season three, and while I'm happy to report that it's a marked improvement over the previous season, I still don't know that I'd recommend it to anyone who was on the fence.

Esmail (not unlike Christopher Nolan and M. Night Shyamalan) needs to be disabused of the notion that he's Orson Welles. His talents lend themselves to a number of indelible moments and images that make for great additions to his highlight reel but which don't cohere as well as a discrete narrative work.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

still wondering what hoos thought about this season lol

― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:32 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Watching the S2 finale now

This whole seasons been weird as fuck and I have really mixed feelings about it

Still gonna watch 3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2018 20:58 (one year ago) link

Lmao "this isn't Burn Notice. Characters like you *aren't* welcome here."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:03 (one year ago) link

tyvm for the update! looking forward to your takes

alvin noto (mh), Sunday, 8 April 2018 03:47 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Back for season 4. Everyone’s in a dark place.

I am using your worlds, Monday, 7 October 2019 16:29 (two months ago) link

halfway through this first episode and it's off to a good start. jake busey cameo! violence! a fully in control mr robot binary!

mh, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 01:22 (two months ago) link

revisited the pilot recently and am kind of in awe at how far off the rails the show went from there. I will probably still begrudgingly catch s4 at some point.

Simon H., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 04:01 (two months ago) link

I can't really remember how we got here but that was a good episode!

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 23:29 (two months ago) link

I only have a vague memory of season 2 (which I bailed on toward the end, I think) but I felt like it made a huge mistake in trying to make things make sense. Season 1 didn't need to be continued on and clarified.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 23:40 (two months ago) link

Whyyyyy do I do this? Two episodes deep and there's *still* nearly no story to this PoS show, but it looks and sounds so good.

Maresn3st, Monday, 14 October 2019 14:44 (one month ago) link

I have no clue what is going on in this show too but then read last year that BD Wong also couldn't remember what was going on before he started season 3.

Yerac, Monday, 14 October 2019 14:55 (one month ago) link

The exchanges between Elliot and his sister are so glacial it's like watching an episode of Jam, I wish they'd speed it up slightly, it's boring as fuck to watch. The whole second episode looks like Eyes Wide Shut though, I'm digging that.

Maresn3st, Monday, 14 October 2019 15:45 (one month ago) link

S4E2 lots of nothing and the uh "twist" goes back to the show's worst tendencies

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:34 (one month ago) link

honestly I watched about half of the s4 premiere and then bailed. in retrospect it really seems like Esmail and co. just had no clue what to do with the non-Elliot characters even as he kept adding more and more of them.

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:42 (one month ago) link

I've seen speculation that Angela's fate was the product of some real-life interpersonal drama but honestly given how wasted other female characters have been who could even tell

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:47 (one month ago) link

Now it feels like I'm watching Season 5 of Lost or something where they're *still* pissing around running from one side of the island to the next to do 'a thing', completely beholden to the conceit laid out in the first twenty minutes of the very first episode.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:57 (one month ago) link

tobias: best new incidental character

mh, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:34 (one month ago) link

I didn't spot the gimmick for this episode until the very end - well done, I guess? Apart from that almost nothing happened, just moving pieces around.

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 15:17 (one month ago) link

Is the gimmick that there was no dialogue?

Yelploaf, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 19:13 (one month ago) link

Great episode; best of the season. And Young M.A.! What with Joey Badass I'm guessing Sam Esmail is a backpacker hip hop nerd.

Yelploaf, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 19:24 (one month ago) link

This show is simultaneously amazing and garbage in a way nothing else is.

29 facepalms, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:09 (one month ago) link

xps - yep

also not an xp - yep

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:40 (one month ago) link

Enjoyed the last two, what was the gimmick though?

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:10 (one month ago) link

Oh wait, no dialogue?

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:11 (one month ago) link

yep

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:53 (one month ago) link

Has it ever been clarified the purpose of the machine that White Rose is building/built?

Maresn3st, Thursday, 7 November 2019 09:56 (one month ago) link

It's a dead-mom-bringing-back machine

Dan I., Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:15 (one month ago) link

makes all your dead parents forever live in your head

Elliot's the first test subject

mh, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:02 (one month ago) link

Man these last two weeks have sucked. The Vera character is so lame.

SPOILERS

And all of this crap is in service of a cheap child abuse revelation. I dunno, I know all the TV auteurs claim they are more interested in characters than plot, but when Esmail assembles such a (mostly) mediocre cast and give them cliched and not-very-interesting things to say, maybe it would have been better to focus on the plot. The hacker heist bits are definitely my favorite parts of the show.

DJI, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 21:53 (three weeks ago) link

plot reveals character!

j., Wednesday, 20 November 2019 04:26 (three weeks ago) link

At last! Also lolz at Trump in the Deus groop gathering.

Maresn3st, Monday, 2 December 2019 22:58 (one week ago) link

fun episode

love 2 put all my infinite money in one bank and get all my friends to do the same thing

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 2 December 2019 23:37 (one week ago) link


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