a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

Feel like there should be a collective noun specifically for prez candidates at this point.

a loose affiliation of millionaire and billionaires and babies

JEB! re Pope's leaked encyclical

"I think religion ought to be about making us better as people, less about things (that) end up getting into the political realm."

the gall is simply breathtaking

http://i.imgur.com/6MdCik8.gif

you'll have a separate one for the serious Dem death match that none of u r entertained by, right?

http://assets.inarkansas.com/61159/hillary-clinton-mike-huckabee.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFVC3qYGYiE

A friend told me that in early May she and her husband hung out briefly with Rubio, his wife, and kids on the beach (they have a common friend). All I wanted to know was what he looked like in a bathing suit.

"Nothing remarkable. Slight gut, bad sunglasses," she said.

Did Rubio ask 'em for money (he's got debts to pay)?

If they let Trump into the debates--I'm not sure which is the worse option, letting him in or keeping him out--I expect you'll get a lot of screenshots of Bush looking like this:

http://go.bloomberg.com/political-capital/content/uploads/sites/3/2012/10/1015-romney-debate.jpg

I don't know if Jeb! can pull off that bemused, slightly condescending patriarchal gaze quite like ol' WMR.

http://i.imgur.com/klzQBzs.jpg

and Ned Beatty as Jeb

looks like a ceo who knows the sec investigators are coming while he's talking to reporters who don't know yet

In photos like the one above of Romney at the debates, I always saw a kind of sad, resigned nausea as he looked at some of the other people on the stage with him (Gingrich, Cain, Perry), and that's how Bush will look upon Trump and one or two others this time.

Nah, Romney looks at everyone like that.

Trump in the debates will be great cuz he will say some obnoxious shit that the base will love and then the other participants will be forced to either dispute it (at their peril) or agree w it (at their peril)

Romney even pulls that shit at McDonalds.

http://i.imgur.com/XI4EKU5.jpg

tbf sad resigned nausea is the only appropriate response to McDs

two dogwhistle right-wing coworkers today spent a good portion of the morning talking about Trump on Hannity last night

"say what you want about the guy, he's got some good points." "he's right about the tax situation. i could see myself voting for him"

....is a conversation that was actually had, zero laughter

I dont know whether to kill myself or them at this point

they should totally vote for him

That McDonalds photo is great--maybe that expression is indeed frozen into place.

resting condescending-patrician face

looks like a ceo who knows the sec investigators are coming while he's talking to reporters who don't know yet

― j., Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:03 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in love with this ^

http://i.imgur.com/AuS67tKl.jpg

uhhhhhhhhhhh
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH31ZopVEAAYGqD.jpg

the greatest photograph in the history of the primaries

I just got back from a brief trip and found this thread. May I say congratulations, Οὖτις, on the thread title. It gave both me and my wife irl lols.

brutal xxp

GOP clown car

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greatest photograph

not to discount the value of photos or to inflate the value of HRC, but Abe Lincoln was one awkward, ugly mofo, and if he were running today, an age where every candidate is photographed a minimum of 5000 times a day, we'd no doubt have some pretty brutal material to laugh at, too

however, he could tell a story, and a joke.

The fish swallower is certainly not a clown, and boy has she mastered the optics since '08. It's a transformation!

That fish picture really reminds me of the first episode of Veep, where Selina asks Mike what went wrong with her campaign, and he answers (apron) 'The hat. And that picture of you with a hotdog...'

I've found my primary protest vote.

Oh, and pickled herring eater is Angela Merkel.

To be comprehensive:

German chancellor Angela Merkel eats a pickled herring after the name giving ceremony for the fish trawler ROS 777 of the Warnemuender fishery in Sassnitz, eastern Germany.

o i c

why the fuck is it in this thread then?

do people really think bernie has a chance? i can't believe there are people who think that. so silly. Hill -vs- Jeb is such a done deal.

hill yes j.e.b. no imo

Yeah this time four years ago we were waiting for Perry to officially enter the race and sweep all before him.

I guess it's either jeb(!) or walker or maybe rubio? I can't imagine any scenario where it all lines up for anyone else.

"scott seward
Posted: June 19, 2015 at 10:47:23 PM
do people really think bernie has a chance? i can't believe there are people who think that. so silly. Hill -vs- Jeb is such a done deal."

Hmmm yes I remember when Hillary was also a done deal in 2008, good point

Hmmm yes I remember when Hillary was also a done deal in 2008, good point

Young (for a politician), hyper-charismatic black dude vs. cranky 95-year-old white guy who won't even comb his hair = not exactly the same thing.

obama had a ton of support by this point last cycle, already wrapped up a a bunch of endorsements and was polling well, also he was just a better candidate than ol bernie bless his heart

Feel like enough non-Republican people are sick of the Clintons to make it a thing.

Bernie will get a noticeable amount of protest votes, but nowhere near enough to mount a Eugene McCarthy-like challenge to the status quo. If he gets as much as 25% in any primary it will be a laudable miracle.

i've said it before and i'll say it again, if hill or jeb win it would mean 32 years of bush/clinton world rulership. frightening but true!

Something wrong w yr math there

Hw = 4
Bubba = 8
Dubya = 8

That's only 20. Even if hillary wins 2 terms that's 28.

Went back and checked - 10th June four years ago was when Perry first appeared on the relevant thread, by 14th July people were saying it was him Romney and Bachmann.

Which I think more goes to show that we know nothing at this stage.

My suspicion is that it won't be the endless free for all that happened last time, partly because that happened last time and clearly didn't help Romney, and partly because unless Jeb's face falls off at the first debate, the Republicans as a party are generally comfortable with him, unlike the animatronic Mr Burns that they went to any lengths (remember Herman Cain got a push?) to avoid four years ago.

xp "in the white house" is generally how that factoid's phrased.

Hw = 4
Bubba = 8
Dubya = 8

That's only 20. Even if hillary wins 2 terms that's 28.

I think people who care about this usually also include HW's 8 years as Reagan's VP.

To lead this fight, the United States must dramatically increase its efforts to appeal directly to the moderate Kurds, Syrians and Iraqis. We must convince them that the Islamic State poses a fundamental threat to their existence.

hmmm I sort of think they may have figured this out already. have their been any signs of this, like maybe thousands of people fleeing the area? let me call my trusted ex-CIA advisors...

carson's advisors in the NYT remind me of an apologetic parent talking to a teacher on parent-teacher day. "yes, we know little susie is struggling with math. we're trying really hard at home, but she just has a real problem listening. also, we're really sorry if she's acting up in class."

this silent muslim majority of people who dont exist or dont give a fuck about us or our interests

Carson should have gotten a sideways dig in at Trump: "Believe me, my plans to defeat the Islamic State are effective."

"I've defeated the Islamic State before..."

"... and not just in a green room"

The five Radical Islams that I'm going to eliminate during my presidency are ISIS, Daesh, ISIL, the Islamic State, and ISIL.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/chris-christie-cant-believe-that-the-paris-attackers-werent-syrian-refugees/

ugh no

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/19/amid-republican-calls-for-force-hillary-clinton-will-present-her-plan-to-battle-isis/?_r=0

huh weird the link header said she was calling for ground troops, yet she is not actually quoted saying such

way to go NYT

sounds like carsonsplainin' to Muslims up there

hillsplainin' to come

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/19/bernie-sanders-to-invoke-roosevelt-in-speech-defining-his-vision-of-democratic-socialism/

lol: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/after-paris-we-should-look-to-chris-christie/2015/11/18/9077dbea-8d58-11e5-ae1f-af46b7df8483_story.html

Lennon as ISIS supporter is classick (is his wife advising Christie?)

Lennon, as bad a political thinker as he was a grammarian, never learned this: Countries, meaning nation-states, are, for all their shortcoming and dangers, indispensable for making self-government possible and secure.

shit, he's right, why didn't John learn this in school

Sanders RS interview

Clearly, one of the factors that influenced my life was the knowledge, as a kid, that my dad's family – and probably my mother's as well, but I knew more about my dad – that many members of his family were killed by Hitler. So what you learn, not intellectually when you're seven years of age, but it goes into your emotional, instinctual base, is that politics makes a difference. Hitler and the Nazis were elected to office in Germany. And 50 million people died in that war, including 6 million Jews.

That's why many African-Americans pay attention to politics in a different way. Politics meant that segregation and lynching existed in this country. And that's why African-Americans are very sensitive to what goes on in politics. And the same thing with Jewish people. That is how, instinctually, if you like, or emotionally, I gravitated into politics.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/bernie-sanders-political-revolution-20151118

george will is such a colossal dipshit

I read that column as Georgie-boy fishing for a job for his wife

^^ yep

For an example of pluperfect unseriousness, consider this Trump claim

"pluperfect unseriousness" eat my butt nerd

no candidate in the Republican field can match Christie’s combination of a prosecutor’s bearing and a governor’s executive temperament.

lmao

unreal, the fuck is he kidding.

who else but Chris Christie can combine the assholishness of a New Jersey prosecutor with the corruption of a New Jersey governor???

actually probably more than half the field but the point stands

lol

his whole brand, even to people who like him, is a redfaced prick. bearing? what

Will's belief that it strengthens his critique of Lennon to take a dig at the grammar in his lyrics is both touching and pathetic.

lol UMS

Aimless are you not familiar with the lyrical heights attained by Will's deep catalog of pop hits

his whole brand, even to people who like him, is a redfaced prick.

― goole, Thursday, November 19, 2015 1:31 PM

Christie's too!

Children are not working in factories and they're not working in the fields, but you have millions of families today who do not know how they're gonna feed their kids tonight. That's a fact. So many of these problems remain, maybe not as severe. But his vision is a vision that I share.

Including an "overthrow of the capitalist system"?

No, no, no. Now you're being provocative. If you follow my campaign, have you heard me talk about overthrowing the capitalist economic system?

No, I haven't.

little known fact: when composing his mellifluous prose, George Will listens exclusively to the grammatically correct song stylings of Orrin Hatch

He used to dig Springsteen:

In the course of a clumsy encomium, Will managed to contort the experience beyond recognition, ending in a burst of free market bluster: "If all Americans--in labor and management, who make steel or cars or shoes or textiles--made their products with as much energy and confidence as Springsteen and his merry band make music, there would be no need for Congress to be thinking about protectionism." In other words, if you find slapping bumpers onto compact cars less fulfilling than singing rock and roll songs in front of adoring masses, fuck off.

http://www.rockrap.com/archive/archiv17.html

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/GeorgeWill.jpg

cover shot for Will's debut album "Where There's a Will, There's a Way"

Will to Power

looool

I Will

that one's only funny if you read it with a silly voice, sorry

Springsteen and his merry band

Just wanted to see that again.

http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/7497350.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/GeorgeWillLST.jpg

well done

Beautiful.

A+

I've Got My Own Column To Do

Skipping 7686 messages at this point....

surely we need a new thread?

good idea

keep thinking about that, then checking the number of candidates still in the field and going "nah, we're still on board the clown car." i guess eventually it might get down to more a beverly hillbillies car? i really didn't think anybody else was going to pack it in until iowa, but then jindal dropped and who knows, maybe graham, pataki and all-star gilmore will shortly decide it's "not their time."

Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

surely the clown car has taken a beating and needs to be traded in for a slightly newer model?

xpost

:)

was gonna go with busload but buttload seemed more appropriate somehow