iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

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or was it just an inevitable by-product of a # of long-running processes that were/are changing the way people live on the internet?

no (Lamp), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:15 (six years ago) link

no, you did

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:21 (six years ago) link

One thing I've noticed from being friends with a lot of ilxors is that a lot of the conversations that used to happen on ILX now just happen in people's facebook posts

Which is fine except facebook is so clunky that it's just such a chore to Show More Comments and it also makes me realize that that stuff wasn't really adding to my life anyway because I don't miss it here either

, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:21 (six years ago) link

im gonna risk not having a nuanced opinion on this and simply state that having constant access/exposure to the lives//opinions/inner-most-thoughs/dinners/vacations/etc of other people--and what's more the narcissistically attended curation of those things--is a "bad thing."

ryan, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:22 (six years ago) link

nothing ruined anything

local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:23 (six years ago) link

everything ruined everything

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:24 (six years ago) link

it is kind of the logical endgame of the internet though; the limitless access to information essentially and necessarily leads to learning what so-and-so thinks about obama's self stick.

ryan, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:24 (six years ago) link

i really have no idea, but i wonder what effect the widespread adoption of smartphones had on the typical content that's created and shared. seems like the kind of article/website/onlinething that you would create for the perusal of someone glancing down at their phone while waiting for an elevator would be different than what you would create for someone assumed to be sitting at a desktop and with a little more time

Karl Malone, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:24 (six years ago) link

My biggest problem with relying on facebook for what-to-read-on-the-internet is that it's the same 3 people contributing 95% of my thread at the times I happen to look, and also there's just such an avalanche of stuff to read that I feel overwhelmed and shut down. OTOH it does seem to have replaced people forwarding things around or making threads about them to some extent. I still prefer finding content through ILX. I suppose I could open one of those tweeter accounts hand just have things twitted at me.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:27 (six years ago) link

i guess the answer to this question depends on what you think is wrong with the internet, too. like, for me, an argument on the 'inevitable byproduct of long-running process side' is that the internet is now way more streamlined and standardized now. and of course standardizing things makes sense, and it's inevitable. but i miss the glory days of proto-blogs that each looked totally unique and were detached from the rest of the internet, or existed as part of Rings or whatever. now everything has wordpress over the top, or a generic Tumblr theme, whatever. bleh

Karl Malone, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:29 (six years ago) link

Though I am an avowed Facebook hater, I don't think Facebook ruined the internet mostly because I don't think of the internet as a static thing that can be ruined by the presence (or absence) of one website (even a really big one). It's more that the internet is a constantly evolving thing made up of whatever it is that people use it for. Plus I mean, Facebook is going to change, and its reach will be diminished, and the internet will continue to exist.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:29 (six years ago) link

One thing I've noticed from being friends with a lot of ilxors is that a lot of the conversations that used to happen on ILX now just happen in people's facebook posts

realizing i could do this was a big breakthrough for me. instead of arguing w/ the void i could argue w/ ppl who i chose to friend on fb. also they have better killfile + blocking mechanics.

Mordy, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:31 (six years ago) link

no, you did

this seems really hostile

i feel like in my head im using facebook as a proxy for a bunch of things but mostly involves 'the internet' being less separate from 'irl'. like i dont think the internet is any less awful than it was in 2003 but it feels less anonymous and interestingly weird a lot of the time. also i do think that 'internet culture' doesnt exist as much anymore? idk

no (Lamp), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:33 (six years ago) link

Twitter's way worse

piscesx, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:35 (six years ago) link

Of course there's also the whole narrative now of the kids not even taking to facebook, using all kinds of ephemeral, non-verbal communicative devices instead.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:35 (six years ago) link

facebook is so boring and mundane and most people i'm very close with don't really use it. yet deleting my account seems like more effort than not deleting it. for some reason i still browse my newsfeed pretty regularly, just as a general "let me escape this present moment" thing (not dissimilar to ILX, but ILX generally has funnier or more insightful shit to say) but not because i find any great worth in it. in general "let me escape this present moment" is a net negative in my life so i can't say i gain anything worthwhile from facebook.

marcos, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:41 (six years ago) link

otmfm

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:41 (six years ago) link

I also use it for, "let me get a quick hit of attention and gratification by posting something funny my toddler said/something witty I thought of," which has a pretty big overlap with "let me escape this present moment"

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:42 (six years ago) link

facebook ruined books

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:42 (six years ago) link

Facebook didn't ruin the internet, but it did some significant damage to the way that Facebook users (in general) manage expectations within their interpersonal relationships.

Ad Strawmanem (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:45 (six years ago) link

facebook ruined faces

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:46 (six years ago) link

one of the biggest effects facebook's had is replacing screen names/aliases with real names/identities as the default for presenting & identifying yourself on the web. like usernames obviously still exist but even on a site like twitter where ppl use usernames they generally have their real name/pic as their display name & avatar, whereas pre-facebook internet interaction happened on message boards where everyone was ShadowDragonX and had a pic of sonic the hedgehog

ciderpress, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:47 (six years ago) link

The whole thing of having to "log in" to comment, which includes facebook but is not limited to it, has definitely pretty much halted me from commenting on news/blog sites.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:49 (six years ago) link

like i was always taught that revealing any personal info on the internet was A Bad Idea but facebook was the first major site to encourage it because of its origins as a college-level thing where that actually made more sense bc you were only interacting w/ people in your irl english lit class

ciderpress, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:51 (six years ago) link

fb is one thing the internet had to become as it mainstreamed into the "real world" i.e. the economy. i think it's a point along this continuum of claiming the reality of social interaction for the market, through a syntax of desire created from the forms of representation that networked machines allow. the fb effect i've noticed the most irl is people it would seem increasingly turning their lives into a bunch of discrete performed categories in this ongoing game for visibility, sort of the same for all social media it's true but fb was there first. not pretending to be an expert or anything, just cobbling stuff together from a limited pov

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:51 (six years ago) link

and fb being there first prob why it's the most boring lamestream version of it now i guess

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:52 (six years ago) link

xp 'log in to comment' is a necessary evil now because spambot technology has gotten too good

ciderpress, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:53 (six years ago) link

fb effect i've noticed the most irl is people it would seem increasingly turning their lives into a bunch of discrete performed categories in this ongoing game for visibility, sort of the same for all social media it's true but fb was there first.

and not like this is super new or bad or anything, just a thing people do that is aided by fb imo

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:53 (six years ago) link

people definitely did things for the sole purpose of bragging rights long before they could take selfies and post them to their news feeds, although facebook tends to elevate that aspect of social experience.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:58 (six years ago) link

more like: did millennials ruin the internet or did the internet ruin millennials

my wife's news feed seems way more annoying than mine but that's because people actually share personal information whereas my friends are pretty laconic. something related to gender going on there.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 23 February 2015 18:06 (six years ago) link

realizing i could do this was a big breakthrough for me. instead of arguing w/ the void i could argue w/ ppl who i chose to friend on fb. also they have better killfile + blocking mechanics.

― Mordy, Monday, February 23, 2015 12:31 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

You moving a lot of this to FB has definitley made ILX a much more pleasant reading experience, ty

, Monday, 23 February 2015 18:06 (six years ago) link

xps definitely, it makes that process very easy and "liquid".

don't mean to march into the convo, just "sharing" some "thoughts" in a box. i feel like there were visions for the internet, flawed geek visions with totalitarian flavor maybe, that posited it as something outside/above "the hustle" or w/e but that was not to be the case lol, and that sort of thing is definitely being pushed against because it isn't really compatible with "we have to turn everything into a possible revenue stream", see for example why ISPs in the US are actually worse for free and clear access rn.

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 18:06 (six years ago) link

Twitter's problem is that people can hide behind seemingly endless fake profiles and numerous accounts. Facebook is way stricter on this and pretty much always has been so it's harder to post evil shit on there, or if you do it's under your own name. still happens like but even Twitter's head honcho did some major mea culpa last week about how useless they are at dealing with trolls/ spambots and how he personally Will Sort It. god knows how.

piscesx, Monday, 23 February 2015 18:07 (six years ago) link

i mean i have my suspicions about why ISPs really want to throttle service but nothing solid at all, that info isn't exactly the first thing that pops up on google (lol) for a lazy researcher like me.

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 18:11 (six years ago) link

There's also kind of an interesting, unspoken sadness to my facebook feed when I look at whose posts make up 50% of it -- the divorced mom who quit her job to start an ill-advised business and seems a bit adrift, the "older cool guy" from my college town who I generally like as a person but never seems to have found his way in life, the middle-aged poet my wife knows from some discussion group -- also a very nice and intelligent person, lost her non-profit job a couple years ago and hasn't been able to get back on her feet, the perpetually single, the trapped-in-bad-relationships. And then also just a bunch of random parents and show-offs.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 18:13 (six years ago) link

re what euler was saying, there are definitely gendered versions of the sharing / liking economy.

fb def. makes it easier to judge it's true

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 18:15 (six years ago) link

I find Facebook more depressing than Twitter because with FB you learn that some people, no matter how much they claim to care about you, think you want to read their repugnant political views. Twitter is a more appropriate place for that - I think FB should be like a set of concurring reunions.

NO CLOO (I M Losted), Monday, 23 February 2015 18:47 (six years ago) link

xp - you know you can unfollow these people and your feed will change?

The interesting thing with fb, how it feels "different" from past internet experience, is the ongoing chess game with the algorithm -- how what fb presents you with is responsive to your behavior, but you aren't entirely sure how. Like if you are promoting an event, do more people see your post if you link to the event page, or if you game the system and post the event flyer as a photo, because "people prefer to look at photos"?

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Monday, 23 February 2015 18:53 (six years ago) link

Trick question: The internet was never good.

dan m, Monday, 23 February 2015 18:57 (six years ago) link

twitter ruined ilx, facebook ruined the internet

flopson, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:05 (six years ago) link

xp - you know you can unfollow these people and your feed will change?

This is seriously the magic bullet right here

brimstead, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:12 (six years ago) link

unfollow is so crucial

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:14 (six years ago) link

people show up more in your feed if they've been clicking on you / scoping you out - y/n? paranoid?

i still don't really get pages or events, seems like there are pros out there, i just want to make a thing for my thing and not think about anything, y can't i do that.

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:17 (six years ago) link

p. interesting to me how earnest this thread is -- like, there's a joke or two but this feels like a q that is important to people. I think about it too - feel like fb didn't ruin shit until the upworthy style of presentation got perfected but once that happened, fuckin A. if you don't curate the shit out of your fb feed it's just garbage clickbait forever and it feels like it's getting worse daily, but at some point even your ex-coworkers will get sick of that too and stuff will change a little...maybe? if upworthy headlines are the terminal point of social media that's kind of hilarious and horrible

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:18 (six years ago) link

One Shocking Truth About Social Media

, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:19 (six years ago) link

think-pieces ruined the internet

Mordy, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:21 (six years ago) link

wow i never get upworthy shit just constant deejay / electronic music / albums by bands news and social justice axes / snarky stuff from brit ilx zing crew ("look at that over dere!") but then i'm pretty strict about unfollow, if you post one annoying thing u r gone from the safe space of my feed immediately.

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:23 (six years ago) link

mordy otm about killfiling on facebook, pruning your feed for annoying people is so necessary. but i keep some in there just to keep me in check even though they are basically spamming my life.

i moved away from the city i had lived in my entire life this year and fb is an okay way to feel connected to my friends back home, so i appreciate it for that. i'll occasionally argue with someone in the comments but i don't find it's a great platform for that, better to have some distance than like arguing with a random dude u went to hs with over whether bill maher is islamophobic

i know this is a set up for a knee-slappingly self-deprecating comeback but communities like ilx or sa at their best is the best form of the internet imo. unless you're a celeb or "work" for it (lol) twitter is just too much shouting into the void (the only non-spam followers i have on twitter are irls and ilxors) and fb is too personal so u can't go full sociopath. like u get good writing, you can outsource a lot of 'content' mining to ppl you "trust", get enough feedback to not make u feel like a shrimpy voyeur, perfect anonymity

flopson, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:26 (six years ago) link

mords is always a welcome sighting, i don't get why everyone's always so seemingly annoyed @ u tbr. xps

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:27 (six years ago) link

we should bring back rival partisan newspapers

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 6 November 2020 21:28 (five months ago) link

I guess this is the blind people and the elephant. You're seeing political / news / information / opinion / journalism on it, and being outraged. You feel the tusks and say "this animal is like a spear."

Maybe I'm lucky or have done a good job choosing and manipulating what to see, I dunno. I mostly just see kids, cats, aunts. And I mostly just share what my kids are up to, what my cats are doing, etc.

I do see political content but have bubbled it successfully so that it's just people I already know I agree with. On the rare occasion that I want to say something that reflects my politics I can restrict it such that it's among people I trust.

And before you say it, YES, I understand that this also means that right-wingers and nazis and Q fans can also bubble such that they see only the stuff that they agree with and that whips them up i to a partisan froth. But 1. They would be doing that anyway, regardless of the platform.

And 2. This is not even remotely new. Journalism started with rival partisan newspapers, and there is a rich tradition of partisan-aligned information sources. People choosing to bubble. See Hearst etc.

I studied journalism and worked as a journalist for many years; if anything "objectivity" is a recent invention and illusory to boot.

I do not have a Facebook account and did not mention objectivity

@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Friday, 6 November 2020 21:48 (five months ago) link

we should bring back rival partisan newspapers

Should we? methinks we have.

Washington Post - establishmentarian centrist accused of being liberal

Washington Times - right-wing with a dash of Moonie weird

Washington City Paper - once a liberal alt-weekly, compromised by consolidation

New York Times - establishmentarian centrist accused of being liberal

New York Post - right-wing with a dash of nationalist/populist weird

Wall Street Journal - come the fuck ON

St. Louis Post-Dispatch - previously center-left, now suborned by right-wing interests due to market consolidation

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - previously center-left, now suborned by right-wing interests due to market consolidation

Richmond Times-Dispatch - previously center-left, now suborned by right-wing interests due to market consolidation

USA Today - gah let's not even go there

coup de nancy grace (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 November 2020 21:50 (five months ago) link

those do not seem to be partisan rivals to each othe

@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:14 (five months ago) link

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@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:14 (five months ago) link

In Washington, Post and Times are absolutely partisan signifiers.

In New York, Post and Times are likely partisan signifiers.

coup de nancy grace (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:28 (five months ago) link

(But opposite)

coup de nancy grace (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:29 (five months ago) link

if that's the new Wachowski sequel I want no part of it

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 16 November 2020 19:15 (five months ago) link

How it started: How it's going: pic.twitter.com/tg02vKxQlM

— everything bad happening is zuckerberg's fault (@GraceSpelman) November 17, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 00:19 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Wow the FTC is really going for it: calling for Facebook to divest itself of Instagram and WhatsApp https://t.co/aQqiQwIfNG pic.twitter.com/ySJNZRzrhP

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) December 9, 2020



Come on plzzzz

stet, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:55 (four months ago) link

hell yeah

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:57 (four months ago) link

(like button)

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:10 (four months ago) link

wow.

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:50 (four months ago) link

Wow, that's actually quite shocking!

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 23:59 (four months ago) link

FB stock down only 2%, I wonder if investors think the whole is not greater than the sum of the parts here.

lukas, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:51 (four months ago) link

um

Facebook told employees on Tuesday that it’s developing a tool to summarize news articles so users won’t have to read them.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/facebook-news-article-summary-tools-brain-reader

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:27 (three months ago) link

congratulations facebook, you invented headlines

||||||||, Monday, 21 December 2020 10:29 (three months ago) link

lmao

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:33 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

On Facebook, protesters had openly discussed what they aimed to do in Washington on a Facebook page called Red-State Secession for weeks. The page had asked its roughly 8,000 followers to share addresses of perceived “enemies” in the nation’s capital, including the home addresses of federal judges, members of Congress and prominent progressive politicians.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/technology/violence-election-capitol-hill-social-media.html

stet, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 23:05 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

One of my friends had her account hacked. The hacker then changed the profile pic to....a pic of someone else. Then wrote my friend (who created a new profile) demanding a payment of a large sum to get the profile back.

Then attempted to make a ton of purchases using Facebook Pay (which were blocked).

A bunch of us reported the profile.

Their trained goons stated this was not a case of fraud/impersonation and didn't violate community standards.

...

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 March 2021 17:57 (one month ago) link

So apparently the reason the request was declined was because my friend needed to report her account as hacked, which is a separate flow that isn't advertised, that takes two or three clicks to find.

And my friend, who is computer illiterate, refuses to do it because she insists she can't because she doesn't have access to her account, she's locked out.

Beyond the fact that it wouldn't make any design sense to require you to log into an account to report that it's been hacked and that you can't get into it, friends can't report on her behalf, so her account is going to stay hacked because she's stubborn and computer illiterate, plus FB's security is awful.

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 18:17 (one month ago) link

(she doesn't have to be able to log in but like that Stuwall thread, no way we explain that to her works).

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 18:18 (one month ago) link

I've got half a dozen FB friends with two or more accounts because they didn't know how to recover a hacked or lost login. Sometimes I get notifications to send a birthday message to three versions of the same person.

There must be millions of similar accounts floating around.

Tomatoes are good for sperm count – not if you play like me (onimo), Friday, 12 March 2021 10:05 (one month ago) link

I opened one up a FB account 10 years ago just to harvest votes for my entry in a NAS photography competition, never really used it since. Although when I went back on it one day to contact an old friend there was a 3 year old unread message from him asking if I fancied going for a drink.

calzino, Friday, 12 March 2021 10:13 (one month ago) link

the murky world of vote swapping/purchasing for online competitions was quite an eye-opener. Some cheating fuckers pay click factories for votes by the thousand.

calzino, Friday, 12 March 2021 10:16 (one month ago) link

and once I did a vote swap with someone where the link they sent me was a trojan, then my laptop slowed down considerably and they started describing the pic on my wallpaper to me in detail and what browsers I used to terrorise me. Things like that and realising most the people I know from work at the time generally just post bigoted memes about eastern European people and benefit scroungers, it made realise that it wasn't for me.

calzino, Friday, 12 March 2021 10:35 (one month ago) link

Like many of you, I hate Facebook. I never post anything there and I basically only keep my account to keep some sort of connection with people that live far outside my other circles.

For example, yesterday I noticed that I hadn't heard from an old (~20 yrs) IRL friend of mine for over 3 months. She was living across the world (8500 miles) from me where Facebook is a bigger deal and part of her social circle. So I click on her FB profile and notice on her most recent post that there had been a an unusally large amount of comments... 100+ where there normally would be ~10.

In the comments was the announcement of her death (sudden yet natural causes) and her funeral which had occurred in November, and dozens of tributes and memorials.

I spent most of yesterday afternoon & evening very confused and sad as my friend was in her early 40s and pretty healthy.

But the fact that the only way I would have found out about this in real time was if I had happened to be online around the time of these announcements and the FB algo made sure to ping me that something was up, for all of that to happen and me to luck into it by chance, it absolutely infuriates me.

Anyways my point besides Facebook being terrible, is to also check in on your friends who FB is your major connection with and find an alternate way to keep tabs on each other.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:31 (one month ago) link

Sorry to hear about that.

This is not anything like that, but I'm spooked these days by what seems like diminished activity by almost everyone I know. Is anyone else experiencing this? Common sense tells me it's the pandemic--people are tired, worried, etc. The paranoid part of me worries about I'm not even sure what. It's not just that my own posts don't get much response--I'm used to that. It's that hardly anybody I know posts anymore. Used to be I'd go out for an hour or two and there'd be a message or two when I got back and five notifications of new posts. Hardly anybody posts anymore. Maybe it's something to do with my settings or algorithms or something else--I know Facebook has its own inscrutable system. But it's unnerving.

clemenza, Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:47 (one month ago) link

This thread is about Facebook, not ILX.

pplains, Friday, 19 March 2021 01:46 (one month ago) link

"This thread is about Facebook, not your whole life" would have worked just as well for me.

clemenza, Friday, 19 March 2021 02:42 (one month ago) link

This ain't the Truth Bombs thread either!

pplains, Friday, 19 March 2021 02:57 (one month ago) link

(by that I mean, "same")

pplains, Friday, 19 March 2021 02:58 (one month ago) link

Personally, I’m posting more than ever. I’d guess lots of people are stepping back and recovering from a time when they felt the need to confront others perhaps more ever before

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 March 2021 03:28 (one month ago) link

I pretty much only post "hey this music is great" or "hey i made this thing" posts, don't engage with anyone else's posts, don't care to.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Friday, 19 March 2021 17:32 (one month ago) link

most of my postings are Jack Handy-wannabe misdirections and i'm much happier than I was prior to my 30-day timeout.

"Salvation Army FUCK!" (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 March 2021 17:41 (one month ago) link

Clemenza, I experience the same thing on Facebook. My personal reasons for posting less, and mostly inconsequential things is partly out of dread of who will interact with it. By that I mean various things - I post something innocuous so set the post to public or all friends (a list 500+ now), but then a closer friend or relative will obliviously drop my kids names or other private info in the comments. Or my mother in law will barrage me with questions or apologies. Or there’s the possibility of being publicly linked with someone who posted toxic shit elsewhere. Local acquaintances who just see me as middle aged suburban mom x, seem to distance themselves if I post anything outside that box. Other people that actually are outside of that box also distance themselves if I hedge and post too much bland stuff. Feels like ever diminishing returns to put oneself out there at all, and I’m sure I’m not unique to think so. That said, I’m still on the thing far too much browsing practical info group content and just doomscrolling. Pandemic hasn’t helped.

Kim, Friday, 19 March 2021 18:07 (one month ago) link

I pretty much only post "hey this music is great" or "hey i made this thing" posts, don't engage with anyone else's posts, don't care to.

― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Friday, March 19, 2021 10:32 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh, you mean on Facebook

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 19 March 2021 19:34 (one month ago) link

lol yes, i mean on facebook.

Kim, I also mostly stopped posting anything remotely...provocative, I'd say, because anytime I would post *anything* that wasn't related to music or some endeavor of my own, people would start shit in the comments. And always the same people! It seems like a lot of the people who are still using Facebook actively are some of the most angry, depressed people I know, and I just don't care to interact with them in such a way.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Friday, 19 March 2021 21:06 (one month ago) link

the biggest thread escalation I ever caused was saying "who cares if Ben Affleck is gonna play Batman".

"Salvation Army FUCK!" (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 March 2021 21:29 (one month ago) link

I think my Facebook experience is different than a lot of people's. I've almost never gone through the arguments and pestering that seems common. In all honesty, I've had more confrontation here--not constant or anything, but more than on Facebook. In the 10+ years I've been on there, there was a couple of minor flare-ups with a cousin this past election, and one over one of those pick-your-favourite-album things; I picked a Byrds album that someone else didn't think was a real album. It was over and deleted within about three posts. That's literally it--I can count them on three fingers. The general political stuff on my wall is more or less in sync with me, and the only politics from teacher friends has to do with teaching, and of course we're in sync there.

The worst annoyance for me was always people who over-posted--like constantly, 10-15 times a day. Some I unfollowed, some I let it go. Now it's just dead. I'm missing what I don't even like.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 March 2021 03:13 (one month ago) link

Honestly I'm praying for the death of Facebook.

Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 March 2021 18:19 (one month ago) link

facebook finished the job ilx started

doo rag, Sunday, 28 March 2021 07:44 (three weeks ago) link

facebook seems kind of quaint and old fashioned now.

treeship., Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:59 (one week ago) link

You find a better forum for organizing a takeover of your state Capitol l.

In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:23 (one week ago) link

something feeling really desperate about them throwing friend recommendations of utterly random people in the notifications. HEY HEY HI HI MAYBE YOU KNOW THIS PERSON??? YOU SHOULD BE FRIENDS :D :D :D THEY ARE ONE OF SEVEN HUNDRED PEOPLE WHO IS FRIENDS WITH SOMEONE YOU HAVEN'T INTERACTED WITH IN OVER A DECADE!!!!

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 17 April 2021 19:45 (three days ago) link

Hasn't that been around for a while?

The thing that was bothering me two or three weeks ago--lack of anything on FB in the way of activity--has started to subside. To paraphrase George Costanza, it's not me (I was worried that it was), it's Facebook. It just seems to be fading in general among the people I interact with--maybe pandemic-related (it's a particularly bad time where I am), or maybe more permanent.

clemenza, Saturday, 17 April 2021 21:32 (three days ago) link

I only signed up for Facebook last year so I could see Satoko Fuji and Natsuke Tamara perform concerts. I don’t know how anyone can use this garbage site. The UI is actively repellent and confusing. I know their shtick is trying to drag you in for hours but everything about it makes me run away within minutes.

In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 18 April 2021 01:31 (two days ago) link

That feature really just inspires creepy doodz to friend request friends of friends so they can mack and claim "FB said we should say hi!"

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 April 2021 01:47 (two days ago) link


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