hey gawker dudes. what the fuck is wrong with you?

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The "obit" doesn't seem so bad.

A lot of gawker is gossip, never going to be the classiest website.

Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Friday, 20 February 2015 07:54 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah the link is in the text /illiterate

Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Friday, 20 February 2015 07:55 (six years ago) link

if you include the link you're shameless. if you don't you're whitewashing your record. kind of a no win situation

polyphonic, Friday, 20 February 2015 08:05 (six years ago) link

Ehh idk, pretty sure you could choose not to hyperlink that shit in an obit, and I know that gawker is the new cool kid ILX crew, but fuck that noise.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Friday, 20 February 2015 08:32 (six years ago) link

i think it's sad that ppl think gawker is cool -- like the ppl who write for it seem like a mix of college student newspaper dorks that felt they were "edgier" than their peers but not extroverted enough to be sketch comedy dweebs

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 09:01 (six years ago) link

gawker media, jjjusten wants a word with you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64sy-053698

how's life, Friday, 20 February 2015 09:45 (six years ago) link

reading this thread i thought it was going to be like, one of those embedded links with an image. that would have been pretty hilarious/fucked up. but a hyperlink in the text? meh

flopson, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:17 (six years ago) link

if you include the link you're shameless. if you don't you're whitewashing your record. kind of a no win situation

It isn’t white washing if it’s a minor story. And it was an extremely minor story.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 20 February 2015 15:42 (six years ago) link

the new cool kid ILX crew lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 20 February 2015 15:46 (six years ago) link

new cool kid ILX crew needs to be doing more to prevent plushie-fucking garbage like this imo

http://io9.com/10-superheroes-who-can-never-have-sex-5015295

The first two grafs of the Hulk item are a good an argument as any that comic books and comic book movies should never be consumed by anyone over the age of 14

it would have been really disingenuous to write about his death but pretend like we have no history with him

J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 15:51 (six years ago) link

new cool kid ILX crew needs to be doing more to prevent plushie-fucking garbage like this imo

sure we'll do this right after you storm into will dana's office and put your foot down over the new U2 album getting 5 stars

J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 15:54 (six years ago) link

agree that it was such a minor story that it'd of been fine and a scosh classier to not include it

johnny crunch, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:55 (six years ago) link

lol @ plushie-fucking garbage

example (crüt), Friday, 20 February 2015 18:48 (six years ago) link

In the future all celeb obits will include a disclosure about the writer being blocked on Twitter by the deceased

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:06 (six years ago) link

i still dont REALLY get this complaint but im glad you posted about it here and on facebook

frankly it would be really weird and shady to pretend we (or really a couple ex employees) had never gotten in a stupid fight with this guy? its not that the story is or is not newsworthy its that we were directly involved as an institution. better to err on the side of transparency

and even then i guess i dont quite get it. are obits supposed to be safe spaces?

max, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:36 (six years ago) link

are obits supposed to be safe spaces?

yes

contenderizer, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:37 (six years ago) link

it's called 'decorum' usually

j., Friday, 20 February 2015 19:42 (six years ago) link

It's bad form to call out or air the dirty laundry of someone who is no longer around to defend him/herself. And I'm sure it's pretty much the last thing anyone who cares about that person wants to read about when they're grieving.

Oh, Delicious! (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:44 (six years ago) link

I mean, write an article or a book or whatever after some time has passed and tell the world how much of a d-bag the person was if you need to, but slipping funeral atendees pictures of the deceased with his mistress just makes you look like a ghoul.

Oh, Delicious! (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:47 (six years ago) link

When Norm McDonald dies does Rolling Stone have to print that he tweeted a critique of their Best SNL cast list?

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:47 (six years ago) link

i don't think mentioning gawker's history with the guy is nec. a bad thing but the way it's inserted into the article is really weird to me, like it's vague enough to invite you to click on it, had it been prefaced with something like "we should note in the interest of transparency that we engaged in an angry blah blah blah...." i would understand more

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:47 (six years ago) link

i still dont REALLY get this complaint but im glad you posted about it here and on facebook

Maybe Gawker can run an article about it and link back to it when we die

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:54 (six years ago) link

take it to kinja

mookieproof, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:57 (six years ago) link

xp: lololol

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:59 (six years ago) link

"Media is just a word that has come to mean bad journalism." - Graham Greene

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:59 (six years ago) link

^^ GG firing shots at gawker over ethics in journalism

example (crüt), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:01 (six years ago) link

lolololx2

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:02 (six years ago) link

clearly the gawker keepin' it negative dickhole cool kid crew should run ILX

flopson, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:36 (six years ago) link

clearly they should

― carne asada, Saturday, January 17, 2009 2:38 PM (6 years ago)

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:43 (six years ago) link

i think it's sad that ppl think gawker is cool -- like the ppl who write for it seem like a mix of college student newspaper dorks that felt they were "edgier" than their peers but not extroverted enough to be sketch comedy dweebs

― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, February 20, 2015 4:01 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think gawker is cool. i guess i buy into their self-image of bravely flaunting politesse standards of establishment journalism, and the writers not caring who they piss off definitely makes for interesting reading. disrespecting the death of some random tv producer i've never heard of doesn't necessarily quality as "brave," but idk it's hard to care either way. i like how the nothing gets the gloves off on ilx like obits

flopson, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:52 (six years ago) link

We are clearly in need of higher standards for reading.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:55 (six years ago) link

comic books and comic book movies should never be consumed by anyone over the age of 14

― pro stroke Johnny Gill songs would rub you the right way (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, February 20, 2015 7:50 AM (5 hours ago)

i hope you are consistently making this argument on all the relevant ilx threads, sugar

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:06 (six years ago) link

i see people get all excited about these movies and then I see this woman is describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner

not to be trenchant or anything but everyone lies in obits it's the american way. *thanks obama for gawker*

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:11 (six years ago) link

i mean gawker dudes, thanks dudes

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:14 (six years ago) link

i see people get all excited about these movies and then I see this woman is describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner

― pro stroke Johnny Gill songs would rub you the right way (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, February 20, 2015 1:08 PM (6 minutes ago)

you don't get boners?

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:16 (six years ago) link

Whiney gets a boner every time he gets the opportunity to neg on pop culture he doesn't approve of.

Oh, Delicious! (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:20 (six years ago) link

how exciting

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:21 (six years ago) link

i can't help but be a little curious why a small business owner in the midwest is outraged about an obit published by a young hip but increasingly conservative new media outlet about a sad comedy ca druggy with a tumblr book deal in which there is what seems like a minor concession to past beef. small world i guess?

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:22 (six years ago) link

Mumble! Sigh! Sob! Comics aren't just for adults anymore!

Sorry, couldn't think of better sound effects for stereotypical alt commix.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:24 (six years ago) link

don't care about this controversy but can't wait to make good use of this thread in the future

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:25 (six years ago) link

just what we need -- another cis-het white man talking about the hulk's boner

mookieproof, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:28 (six years ago) link

*tumbls furiously*

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:29 (six years ago) link

comic books and comic book movies should never be consumed by anyone over the age of 14

― pro stroke Johnny Gill songs would rub you the right way (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, February 20, 2015 7:50 AM (5 hours ago)

what about Kevin Smith movies

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:30 (six years ago) link

Hey hip-hop nerds. What kind-of hip-hop is this?

markers, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:31 (six years ago) link

will do

describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:34 (six years ago) link

don't you live in greenpoint where's it's like 90% polish people and upwardly mobile white twentysomethings pretending to be broke? who are you scared of there?

― imo phillips (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:34 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you scared of getting a seitan taco from the taco truck?

― imo phillips (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:35 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

best thread ever

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:37 (six years ago) link

"grim reapah!" burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb never fails to brighten my day

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:38 (six years ago) link

Are you arguing that the quote i excerpted isn’t asserting that the Gawker people have the right to have Apple Pay for their series?

DJP, Monday, 14 December 2020 04:16 (two months ago) link

Or do you just not get inference?

DJP, Monday, 14 December 2020 04:17 (two months ago) link

not surprised apple killed this. apple tv is an incoherent brand, but this seems like the kind of thing they would not do, even if it weren't for a probably justified grudge held by the CEO against gawker.

i do think it's stupid to cancel cord jefferson's first show if you're lucky enough to get it despite the fact that your network is basically a failure. but apple does stupid stuff all the time so whatever.

"trying to get the dude you harassed for years to pay your salary is at best a reach"

it's also ... not what happened?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 December 2020 04:23 (two months ago) link

Are you arguing that the quote i excerpted isn’t asserting that the Gawker people have the right to have Apple Pay for their series?

― DJP, Sunday, December 13, 2020 11:16 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Or do you just not get inference?

― DJP, Sunday, December 13, 2020 11:17 PM (twenty-four minutes ago)

no your analogy was just laughably facile

k3vin k., Monday, 14 December 2020 04:43 (two months ago) link

I am also not surprised cook killed this. if I were he I'd have killed it too obviously. but it would have been funny if he never found out!

k3vin k., Monday, 14 December 2020 04:44 (two months ago) link

sounds like they already had a few episodes in the can, not exactly a tight ship over there (i know apple tv is this ridiculous boondoggle but still.....)

buzza, Monday, 14 December 2020 04:51 (two months ago) link

or maybe just a few finished episode scripts idk

buzza, Monday, 14 December 2020 04:52 (two months ago) link

Well like defector it’s basically a turnkey proposition for *checks notes* ROKU TV?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 14 December 2020 05:01 (two months ago) link

xp didn't sound like anyone filmed anything

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 December 2020 05:02 (two months ago) link

yeah i guess it was just the writing part
https://deezlinks.substack.com/p/q-and-a-with-cord-jefferson-to-really

"I’ve been in one writers’ room for my own show, Scraper, that we did from March to August, all over Zoom. We got the job done, and I was happy with the work that we did, but for me, one of the nice things about the job that I do is the camaraderie I get to have with people in the writers’ room and on set. When you’re not able to do that in person, you miss out on part of the joy, so I’m desperate to get back."

buzza, Monday, 14 December 2020 05:15 (two months ago) link

Gawker was 20% pioneering new media and 80% toxic gossip, class warfare, clickbait and gross public shaming of people who didn't rise to the level of public figure

I hugely admire Nick Denton, but everyone who worked for Gawker is tainted by its history. Glad that Apple did this https://t.co/qrrSYOexoE

— Chris Anderson (@chr1sa) December 14, 2020

No, many outlets do great journalism about class disparities (e.g., ProPublica, WNYC, NYT). But snarky pieces that generate clicks by making people angry and envious don't do anything to advance equality or inform readers.

— Ryan Radia (@RyanRadia) December 14, 2020

Many dumb people are still mad at Gawker.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Monday, 14 December 2020 06:03 (two months ago) link

I no longer want to know the dumb thoughts of dumb people

is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 14 December 2020 06:16 (two months ago) link

i don't know why everyone's assuming the premise of this show is "gawker was unambiguously good".

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 December 2020 06:42 (two months ago) link

Giving Gawker the Good Night and Good Luck treatment would be hilarious, though.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Monday, 14 December 2020 06:53 (two months ago) link

Citizen Denton with Max as Joseph Cotten/Jedediah

buzza, Monday, 14 December 2020 06:55 (two months ago) link

if they do end up getting picked up by a different network, this will probably end up being a good thing for the show. i had appletv free for a month and there was nothing i would conceive of watching a minute of on it

flopson, Monday, 14 December 2020 08:09 (two months ago) link

Scraper on Quibi

buzza, Monday, 14 December 2020 08:32 (two months ago) link

toxic gossip, class warfare, clickbait and gross public shaming of people who didn't rise to the level of public figure

hmmmmm one of these things is not like the others

worzel scampidge (||||||||), Monday, 14 December 2020 09:27 (two months ago) link

It’s only class warfare when non-wealthy people fight back.

scampopo (suzy), Monday, 14 December 2020 10:04 (two months ago) link

To be frank, I actually agreed with Gawker's stance of outing prominent people, and so anyone holding a grudge over that can get fucked.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Monday, 14 December 2020 12:48 (two months ago) link

i'm willing to believe Cook acted on his personal distaste for the site and that made sense

however, the comments I've seen from people highly-placed in the tech industry on tech journalism as a field are unequivocally disinterested in anything other than fluff pieces on their companies, their funding, and the work environment

it was only this past week that someone (I believe at google) was whining about a tech reporter asking if employees would be interested in anonymously speaking about the work culture of the company, saying that if they wanted to be a real journalist they'd be contacting corporate PR to connect them to the right people

of the exposees or even simple "inside baseball" style articles (see: a bunch of the stuff on our silicon valley thread), very few that target a company larger than a start-up that sells luggage (like The Verge did) exist. occasionally the nytimes or one of their peers runs an article, but they've got enough clout to do so without getting sued or cut out of coverage

there's also an ongoing gripe from tech people that covering larger companies (google, facebook, etc.) in terms of social environment or how people use their products isn't, again, "real journalism"

for all the flaws, there are too few descendants of Valleywag and the like

mh, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 01:42 (two months ago) link

otm

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 01:55 (two months ago) link

I guess The Verge, among others, did dig pretty deeply into the Foxconn/Wisconsin deal but I feel like Foxconn is a different sort of target in that they don't deal directly with consumers and are located in China

mh, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 02:27 (two months ago) link

There’s always the register

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 02:39 (two months ago) link

sort of bizarre to see people on this board still caring about this

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 02:47 (two months ago) link

well, one of the two people pitching the show was ilx's own

mh, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:06 (two months ago) link

max is a good dude and also double-plus obese

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:09 (two months ago) link

Uh?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:20 (two months ago) link

check your privilege, Ned

mh, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:40 (two months ago) link

sort of bizarre to see people on this board still caring about this


If it were just the remaining posters on this message board that cared then I don’t the biggest company on the planet would let a show about it get as far as preproduction?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:40 (two months ago) link

tim cook is GAY?

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:41 (two months ago) link

succession already did the perfect gawker story

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:45 (two months ago) link

gay cook is Tim?

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:45 (two months ago) link

we all must cook on thermal interface material

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:11 (two months ago) link

yknow, I woulda thought that there would have been a comprehensive book about Gawker by now… I have to think that more than one neo-Robert Draper would have pitched it, but I wonder if publishers don't want Charles Harder fucking with them, or if Peter Thiel has similarly made it known that life would difficult should such a project proceed… if Cook is still sore, than perhaps a bunch of big shots are too and it would be too hot for publishers to handle… but it's one helluva story re: an era defining enterprise…

veronica moser, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:33 (two months ago) link

Well there’s a Netflix feature documentary

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:36 (two months ago) link

attempting to pitch it as a TV drama first was the right move imo -- a book just falls back into the same pool of readers who already half-know the story (or think they do) and have (too) many of them of them come to terms with how things turned out

i mean lol me for even saying or thinking this but the dramatic arc is literally old-school tragic in form

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:50 (two months ago) link

comments are closed

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:50 (two months ago) link

it will be like mad men, but jon hamm->james corden and scotch->monster energy drink.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:00 (two months ago) link

sort of bizarre to see people on this board still caring about this

new borad description

alternately, just paste it into a position:fixed div and let it hover in every thread on every topic for all times

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:08 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

if they do end up getting picked up by a different network, this will probably end up being a good thing for the show. i had appletv free for a month and there was nothing i would conceive of watching a minute of on it

― flopson, Monday, December 14, 2020 2:09 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ted lasso is v good but will not alleviate concerns abt the critical capacities of Apple tv

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:14 (one month ago) link

toxic gossip, class warfare, clickbait and gross public shaming of people

it truly was a great website

flopson, Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:23 (one month ago) link

rip

k3vin k., Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:42 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

this looked like an obvious joke post that an editor later shat on

if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 February 2021 01:53 (one week ago) link

it was published at 4:20pm

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 February 2021 15:32 (one week ago) link

Journalism

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 February 2021 16:31 (one week ago) link

Big Defector update via Margaret Sullivan in the Washington Post. In sum, it's doing quite well for now:

And vital encouragement came when the group first announced its intentions to start a new site: More than 10,000 people immediately signed up as subscribers (the entry level is $8 a month; it costs a bit more for those who want to comment on stories). Tens of thousands of others would follow — enough to pay for the $50,000 minimum salaries of more than 20 staffers. Higher “target salaries” depend on the success of the site and on particular job responsibilities.

Subscriptions provide the only form of revenue. The site has no ads, and hasn’t resorted to any membership campaigns in the tradition of public television.

Each of the founding employees holds a financial stake in the company of about 5 percent; new staffers get a somewhat smaller share but all have an equal vote in major decisions. A two-thirds vote of the staff could result in editor Tom Ley’s firing.

“That’s terrifying and comforting at the same time,” Ley told me. “There is the possibility of me screwing stuff up, which is the scary part.” But, he says, if the staff does fire him, “at least it will be because of me,” not because of a corporate decision from on high.

I asked Ley whether he thought Defector would still be around in three years. He admitted that he’s hopeful but uncertain.

“There is going to be a white-knuckle moment of truth” at the one-year mark next summer, he said, when the initial one-year subscriptions expire.

Also recently hired Laura Wagner and Kalyn Kahler.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:58 (five days ago) link

Each of the founding employees holds a financial stake in the company of about 5 percent; new staffers get a somewhat smaller share but all have an equal vote in major decisions. A two-thirds vote of the staff could result in editor Tom Ley’s firing.

“That’s terrifying and comforting at the same time,” Ley told me. “There is the possibility of me screwing stuff up, which is the scary part.” But, he says, if the staff does fire him, “at least it will be because of me,” not because of a corporate decision from on high.

this is the most FOUNDING FATHERS vibe i've felt in so long. fuck yeah for people who actually believe in democracy

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 21 February 2021 22:49 (five days ago) link

The power of charging people to post cannot be denied. Maybe something for ILX to consider - a $1 toll to gain posting privileges on a thread.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 22 February 2021 04:19 (four days ago) link


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