start a victory garden and ration your IRRATIONALLY ANGRY feelings, part 3

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Yippee-IA, Motherf***ers! IRRATIONALLY ANGRY PT. 2: Irrationally Angrier

Bill Nighy the Science Gighy (get bent), Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:18 (nine years ago) link

this is definitely an innocuous thing and it makes me more mildly annoyed than IA, but i don't like when people's facebook comments are nothing more than them tagging other people. put it on your friend's wall or send a private message. comment threads are for actual comments.

Bill Nighy the Science Gighy (get bent), Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:22 (nine years ago) link

Tweets from highly and justly esteemed writers which are noting but their next bookstore signing, and (barf) the most asskissing, "now blurb meee" kind of blurbs (retweeted by blurbee of course) Cmon gimmee freebie culture dammit! Comedians even worse but ft

dow, Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:45 (nine years ago) link

Musicians not as bad except some are stupid, tweetwise anyway

dow, Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:47 (nine years ago) link

i find myself getting very ia at people who dont interrogate conversation, who just wait to talk and continue to talk talk talk and barely acknowledge other contributions

i like conversation when it is like a game of tennis. i do not enjoy being the backyard wall against which you repeatedly smash your 'conversation'

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:49 (nine years ago) link

a) never ever go on facebook; it is the absolute worst

b) unless you are drunk and desperately seeking human contact; even then it will be a mistake

c) would totally become unhelpfully drunk with jbr/dow/veg tho!

d) first round's on veg

mookieproof, Saturday, 3 January 2015 06:49 (nine years ago) link

all round to my place for fap :D

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 January 2015 07:22 (nine years ago) link

annual rolling threads that needn't be annual

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 January 2015 02:41 (nine years ago) link

-pizza places that don't sell pizza by the slice

(I politely walked out of two pizza places in one day because the first one didn't sell slices after 6 pm and the second one told me there'd be a 15 minute wait because "our slicing pizza is still in the oven.' this was the one time in my life I was tempted to get on Yelp and write some irate reviews)

please login or register if you are (unregistered), Saturday, 10 January 2015 02:50 (nine years ago) link

overly tailored tshirts on casual friday (ie neatly rolled up sleeves, tucked in etc)

just relax and wear a damn tshirt.

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 January 2015 06:02 (nine years ago) link

Needing to work out if the zip I used in the construction of a pair of jeans last year that I wear regularly or if I just keep forgetting to zip it up. Keep finding it down anyway. So just wondering if it's the zip or my memory.
& it would be the pair of jeans that needs a special needle to sew the fabric.

Wondering how long I'll have to wait until I can comfortably collect a shelving unit without being absolutely p-ed on trying to get it home. Weather is atrocious for last few days and I need to transport this flat pack I bought. Waiting for an actual break in bad weather.

Stevolende, Sunday, 11 January 2015 10:52 (nine years ago) link

That was supposed to say about whether a zip needed replacing or if my memory was going. Looks like the latter if I forgot to put in the bit about replacing. & i only made the jeans about 3 or 4 months ago so it should hopefully not mean a zip needed replacing yet. Keep finding myself flying low though.

Also trying to work out which side of the fabric i'm using for a pair of tartan jeans should be the outside/inside since they look very similar. & I don't want to get it wrong throughout. Guess that would at least be consistent though.

Stevolende, Sunday, 11 January 2015 11:05 (nine years ago) link

Stevolende, I have a question about jeans fly covers. Mine constantly bunch up, exposing the top part of the zipper. I have considered that the reasons might be:
- waist is too tight (but it happens on looser waists, too)
- my gut is pushing down on the waistband
- the button hole has gotten loose, allowing the top flap to sag (though I have tried sewing up the button hole without success, possibly due to my lack of skill and understanding)

Any advice on how to treat this problem? Some kind of insert to stiffen the flap?

Here is a pic of the problem.

Je55e, Sunday, 11 January 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link

And so it's on topic: this folded flap makes me SO IRRATIONALLY ANGRY

Je55e, Sunday, 11 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link

I think I just tend to wear shirts outside my jeans so it's covered up. Will think about it but not sure offhand.

Might be that you need to make sure you've ironed the fly flap. BUt probably not. I don't know if I know enough about construction and subsequent pressures to answer. But could be that it would be good for me to be aware of that for future knowledge.

I've made like 10 pairs of jeans so far so it's still early days. & I'm not sure how successful they all are. Found out that some I'd made some months back really were too large at the waistband. Being largely self-taught I'm not 100% sure what solutions are.

Stevolende, Sunday, 11 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

i don't like when people's facebook comments are nothing more than them tagging other people. put it on your friend's wall or send a private message. comment threads are for actual comments.

THIS. When the hell did this kick off? It is irritating. Ive clicked on comments threads that are nowt but tag-ins. Ive even had friends of mine tag me in some other random persons thread. I ignored the callout. PM me or GTFO.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 12 January 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link

start a victory garden and ration your IRRATIONALLY ANGRY feelings, part 3">Karl Malone

pplains, Monday, 12 January 2015 02:27 (nine years ago) link

Online sellers who aren't satisfied with the fact that you purchased a product from them and did not try to return it or complaint about it, but hassle you RELENTLESSLY to leave feedback, tell us what you think, post about us on social media, blah blah blah

FUCK YOU I gave you money. You gave me a product. We're not married now. I don't owe you anything. I don't have to go to your parents' house for Thanksgiving and I don't have to write a review of your GOD DAMN cocktail shaker. Fuck.

carl agatha, Monday, 12 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link


I was printing out my parents boarding passes from Spirit Airlines last night and they offered the normal nickel-and-dime-you-to-death services and the option to voluntarily pay an additional $1 or $5 to help the airline be more green.

So not a service, just some random fucking guilty bullshit about how if we want this airline to be more environmentally friendly, give us extra money. We're already paying extra money to check a bag and have more leg room than a chicken a 12-by-12 factory farming crate, and now these fuckers have the nerve to try to extort money for their environmental initiative? I'm still so angry about that I can barely form a coherent objection to it.

carl agatha, Monday, 12 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

I'm underemployed right now working as a temp in a law firm.. I got a ton of overtime last week but I am FUCKING FURIOUS because I HATE overtime and I hate my line of work because Im subject to the whims of capricious lawyers who dont give a fuck about my life or free time (or common sense/decency). The irony being I'm making time and a half and have a bunch more money than I would yet I am still FUCKING FURIOUS because theres a lot more overtime in the future.

It also doesnt help that because I'm a temp I'm realizing about 2/3ds of what my employer is paying the temp agency, which is basically the same amont of money I used to make like ten fucking years ago.

thanks obama

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 12 January 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link

^^^great CSR, there, carl. *screams*

I was a participant in the following exchange last week:

Cashier: 'Thanks for shopping with us. Can I take your e-mail address?'
Me: 'No...'

camp event (suzy), Monday, 12 January 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

Hate it when I'm too fast for a website. Site loads, I put the cursor on something like "SEARCH" and click, but in that split second between those two actions, the site has loaded up just a little bit more and I wind up clicking on something like "CONTACT US".

pplains, Monday, 12 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

When I started at TCS they encouraged us to ask ppl for their email addresses at the register. At first they said it like, "Hey, people might want to know when we have sales! Just ask, if they say no, that's fine obvs." By the time I left they were offering positive incentives to workers who got the highest percentages of ppl to give them an email. I got the feeling negative incentives were right around the corner.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 12 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Radio Shack has been really obnoxious about the email stuff for years

Nhex, Monday, 12 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link

lol Radio Shack was way ahead of the curve, they used to ask for your address years ago

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 12 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

I just had one of those, cash purchase of an overpriced-yet-undeniably-effective hair care product for one of my daughters from a salon I visit for no other purpose.

"What's your last name?" "Is it 'Dusty' Perry?" "I'm supposed to ask." "How do you spell your last name?" "Who normally does your hair here?" Ha ha ha, who does my greying, thinning hair.

Vic Perry, Monday, 12 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link

Canada Goose Parkas

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link

It also doesnt help that because I'm a temp I'm realizing about 2/3ds of what my employer is paying the temp agency

Not to stoke any further IA, but it's possible that you are grossly overestimating the cut that your temp agency is willing to part with.

Smoothie Operator (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

Very true. I used to be temped for Accounts Payable jobs, so the most hilarious thing to me was knowing the 'big secret' of exactly how much the company was paying for my services because I was the one processing the bill! (Of course temp agencies never ever want their temps to know this stuff).

I recall more than one job where I got hourly $13, and the agency was getting $22, and that this ratio was pretty usual, so, I got more than half, but less than 2/3 of the payout.

However, and this really ticked me off, one job that was largely funded by taxpayer dollars paid me way less than half of the outrageous sum the temp agency got! I think I got $9 out of $25 bucks on that one! No business like soaking the people.

Vic Perry, Monday, 12 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link

temp agencies take that much?! damn.

Nhex, Monday, 12 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link

i guess companies will pay to screw people out of benefits

Nhex, Monday, 12 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link

Most of the times I was ever offered to 'go perm' it was usually with a pay cut from what I had been getting as a temp ('but you'll get benefits') so, no, thanks.

One reason I did temp for a long time was that the pay rates had at least something to do with demand, whereas permanent positions tended to be successfully squashed. While it was humiliating in some ways to have the agency taking a lot of money for doing nothing but landing me the spot, that did save me a lot of dreadful human resources interviews and frankly, I just wouldn't have found those positions on my own. I also used to see the most interesting trainwrecks: places where I'd take over the suddenly vacated position of an embezzler, a revenge case, a blazing incompetent. Whole little histories there. The work of course was more boring than not so regular changes of scenery were helpful as well.

Vic Perry, Monday, 12 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

lol Radio Shack was way ahead of the curve, they used to ask for your address years ago

That reminds me of this collection of anecdotes (I thought it mentioned the hassling-for-address thing but it doesn't seem to):

I particularly enjoyed VIII and XV, if you've got better things to do than read the whole collection of longwinded rants. But who would have better things to do than that?

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 12 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link

omg XV is amazing, I have no idea what that is

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 12 January 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link

baldie doin-brum.gif

they TRY to look like GOOD people (soref), Monday, 12 January 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link

ia: egregiously bad service in restaurants. i'm sooooo chill and forgiving about minor food service slip-ups. i don't care if you smile. i don't care if you refill my water without me having to ask. if i don't say when i'm ordering that i'm allergic to XYZ food item (which would be a gross overstatement, since my food allergies are really trivial), it's a minor inconvenience but not the end of the world if the kitchen forgets to leave it off. i just want a baseline level of transactional ease if i'm gonna choose your place over other places. i had work to do last night and i ran out to get a quick takeout order so i could scarf down some food and meet my midnight deadline. i ended up waiting probably 40 minutes for a dish that at most would take ten minutes to cook from pre-prepped ingredients and assemble in a styrofoam box. and the restaurant was busy, but not slammed. it just made me very stressed out. which is my problem, not theirs. i don't handle stress well. 40 minutes is a long time to wait though.

mitt fleekwood (get bent), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link

no i in yr a

so to speak

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 02:48 (nine years ago) link

the level of stress made my a feel i

mitt fleekwood (get bent), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 02:49 (nine years ago) link

_lol Radio Shack was way ahead of the curve, they used to ask for your address years ago_

That reminds me of this collection of anecdotes (I thought it mentioned the hassling-for-address thing but it doesn't seem to):/

I particularly enjoyed VIII and XV, if you've got better things to do than read the whole collection of longwinded rants. But who would have better things to do than that?

Whoa thank you, aps! I read the first few of those when it was first posted, but missed the great ones you pointed out plus my favorite, the one w/ Stoned Craig going "I'm hungry, Paw." (Which I've said a lot to various people over decades for no reason I can discern, so maybe it's just part of the collective human drive to say it.)

Je55e, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 05:32 (nine years ago) link

Stoned Je55e

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link

OK that Brum story looool
Original Brum theme was instrumental but TIL there is an extremely lengthy modern version

kinder, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link

bill gates the spider

kinder, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

News sites showing handheld video but blurring out the edges? I feel like I see something like this every week or two. Sorry, this is some really traumatic video.

how's life, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link

lately every time i watch some crappy viral video prank, i get IA imagining myself just out and about trying to run an errand and getting trapped in a viral video prank. like that dumb telekinesis coffee shop thing.*

*maybe the reactions are fake, idk.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

It's very likely my last dying words will be "Turn your phone sideways if you insist on recording this."

pplains, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it's not because something is being blurred out, it's because people don't shoot in landscape and for some reason news organizations have chosen to present it like that. I think they should just reject all portrait videos.

Jeff, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link

Why can't phones just format videos in landscape regardless of the position of the phone?

Je55e, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

camera sensor orientation? the actual sensor isn't square iirc, I may be wrong

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link

those takeout containers with interlocking flaps - eating from them makes me ia bcz the flaps get in the way

i usually dump it out onto a plate of something but sometimes you can't & raaaaage

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link

Is "Starry" just Sierra Mist repackaged?

We hosted a German exchange student many years ago. He thought the name "Sierra Mist" was hilarious, since "Mist" in German refers to animal dung.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 4 March 2024 16:07 (three months ago) link

Fresca is still available, yes, but not in the UK. Tab was available in the US until 2020 but very hard to find.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 4 March 2024 16:11 (three months ago) link

Surge came back a few years ago and I had it and was like "eww gross why did I love this shit in high school"

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2024 18:29 (three months ago) link

the grocery store. god, the grocery store, let me do my boomer rant here

first off the stupid sodas are all "buy two, get three free", i live in a _city_ i _walk_ to the grocery store how the fuck am i supposed to carry FIVE 12-PACKS of soda? also nobody stocks my favorite brand anymore, which is diet mountain dew major melon, YES i know it's disgusting and i fucking LOVE IT, it's not feasible to mail order that shit though. they're also really obviously trying to drive up soda consumption by getting people to buy more soda than one ever has a need to have in a household, DON'T THINK I'M NOT ONTO YOU BASTARDS

and then the coupons, fucking coupon culture is noxious. they want you to scan some bullshit card with an "app" to get discounts, but their app is shit and their coupons don't work. i mean at least it structurally penalizes people who _aren't_ poor by making people go through hassle and inconvenience to save money.

now on top of that i go in and try to buy a box of cheerios some numbnuts (i can say that, i've had mine surgically removed) has decided it's a great idea to put fucking GENDERED LANGUAGE on all of the boxes, i have to go through a dozen before i find one in the back that doesn't have "DAD" printed on the front. god dammit you just can't get away from this shit, i spend hours upon hours changing my voice, take hormones for five years, lose my house, lose my partner, lose my friends, go through more shit than i can possibly fully account for, and then i go to the grocery stores and all of the cereal boxes are misgendering me. why? what fuckbythenavel in marketing decided this would be a good idea?

and the only people who get to complain about petty, insignificant shit like this are fucking fascists complaining about the "woke agenda". my day is filled with minor, petty inconveniences and the only people who get to complain are people who aren't facing any inconveniences at all. is that too meta? even if that's meta, it makes me irrationally angry that only assholes have the right to be irrationally angry about things.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:28 (three months ago) link


m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 02:33 (three months ago) link

look if it was good enough for the good people of chester in the early 14th century it's good enough for me

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 03:24 (three months ago) link

Fair enough.
Many a true word is spoken in Chester.

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 09:32 (three months ago) link

There's a new limited edition Coke flavor called Coca-Cola Spiced, which I expected to be similar to the limited Coca-Cola Cinnamon from a few years back which I liked.

Nope, it's fucking raspberry! In tiny print elsewhere on the label it says "Raspberry Spiced." Why you do this to me, Coke?

If you're going to make a spiced Coke, how about Coca-Cola Clove?

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 11:36 (three months ago) link

I donate blood pretty regularly. Sometimes there's an added promotion of a gift card or something to attract donors, and I figure "bonus!" because I'm going to be there anyway. But I've never actually been given a gift card!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 13:51 (three months ago) link

Things that make me rationally angry: Not being allowed to give blood anymore

Changing it from a lifetime ban to like, I don't know, a one-year ban? That's even worse, because then it's like, when was the last time you had gay sex? Like I'm sorry I'm voluntarily giving you my precious bodily fluids here, that's a pretty rude question.

Of course maybe there's now no ban at all and I just never got the memo.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:16 (three months ago) link

I think there's no ban on gay sex anymore (or whatever the catch was). For sure I know my wife was banned for 20+ years because she lived in Germany for part of the '80s (mad cow), but even that ban was rescinded.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:19 (three months ago) link

There's a new limited edition Coke flavor called Coca-Cola Spiced, which I expected to be similar to the limited Coca-Cola Cinnamon from a few years back which I liked.

Nope, it's fucking raspberry! In tiny print elsewhere on the label it says "Raspberry Spiced." Why you do this to me, Coke?

If you're going to make a spiced Coke, how about Coca-Cola Clove?

― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, March 12, 2024 7:36 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

That sounds vile. I was skeptical of the cinnamon diet coke but I actually really liked it. Cinnamon is one of my fave flavors though.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:21 (three months ago) link

Since when is raspberry a spice?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:30 (three months ago) link

ever since the marketing department decided "spiced" did better with focus groups than "raspberry enhanced"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:38 (three months ago) link

I bought some “Christmas” flavored Bundiberg root beer a few years ago that was out of control with the Christmas spice, like drinking a cold candle

brimstead, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:55 (three months ago) link

Might as Well Go All the Way with new Coca Cola Spiced: Raspberries. Buy now!

budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 18:11 (three months ago) link

lol no

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 18:14 (three months ago) link

"It's Coca‑Cola, only spiced. Coca‑Cola Spiced transforms the familiar into the extraordinary. Blending the iconic taste of Coca‑Cola with a burst of refreshing notes from raspberry and spiced flavors, Coca‑Cola Spiced offers an uplifting taste experience."

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 18:15 (three months ago) link

This sounds so weird. Why would they do that?? Raspberry doesn't go with spice! This makes no sense. I have to find some.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 18:16 (three months ago) link

Please do and let us know.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 18:34 (three months ago) link

I saw the raspberry Coke Zero at the store today and passed in favor of cherry Coke Zero, which is pretty bad, too, but I thought it would go well with the turkey sandwich I was having for lunch. I was right.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 19:11 (three months ago) link

Cranberry Coke Zero might have gone even better.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 19:13 (three months ago) link

I think that's called Dr. Pepper?

pplains, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 19:51 (three months ago) link

I thought Dr. Pepper was originally flavored with prunes?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 19:52 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

spraying champagne (or sparkling English wine as it was on this occasion) at the end of a sports event. wasteful at best but mainly i am angry about the sheer and utter lack of imagination.

koogs, Saturday, 30 March 2024 17:50 (two months ago) link

So I don't sleep so good, I got terrible insomnia. I'm up at 2 AM every day. And when I'm up at 2 AM, I got 2 AM thoughts, and they're not always, like, happy, positive thoughts.

And today, I'm just fucking pissed about, like. This boss I had a fucking decade ago. I mean seriously, it was 10 years ago, for me to still be mad at him, that's irrationally angry. It's not just that, though, it's what I'm irrationally angry at him _for_.

I maen this guy, this guy was a real piece of shit. When people talk about "privilege", this guy could be the poster child for it. A lot of, you know, you see these incels talking about "alpha males" and they're thinking of people like him. And to me, this is a perfect example of why incels are fucked up, why incels have it wrong, because they buy into this bullshit idea. Because it's all superficial, it's all bullshit. He _looked_ like the kind of guy who would be successful. He was born into a powerful Republican political dynasty, white, silver hair, good teeth. The kind of guy dodgy car salesmen _try_ to look like.

He was born for success and he kept getting all kinds of opportunities, but he didn't succeed like some of his relatives did because he was a fucking grifter and a fraud. I mean even compared to his relatives. All Republicans are grifters and frauds to some extent, it's kind of baked into the ideology. IDK. I guess maybe it's irrationally that I should hate him at all compared to his less obviously evil brother. Because it is just a mask, right? Is it irrational to hate a guy who openly embezzles from his employees more than a guy who works to systemically unjust system in ways that _seem_ sensible and reasonable but aren't, really?

I guess if I hated him from embezzling from me personally, it would be rational. Except not a decade later, not when the amount of money he was embezzling from me was basically peanuts. But that's the thing, right? We're out here making fucking peanuts compared to his CEO-ass salary and he's embezzling from us _anyway_. And then goes off and literally sacks one of my most competent co-workers when she asked for a raise. Because she was _supposed_ to get one, the silent partners said hey, give your employees raises, and _that_ was what he embezzled. So he fired her because what she was asking her would have exposed his embezzling.

The thing is though I'm not really mad at him for that. I didn't know about any of this until long after I was out of there. He was mad at me for quitting. I mean he was fucking embezzling from us, I went out there and got a degree, he offered _nothing_ in return, and he was mad at me for quitting. Just, like, smdh. That ignorant-ass motherfucker. I'm not mad at him for that, either. To me that's hilarious levels of short-sightedness. You lose one of your best employees who you pay peanuts, who has worked hard and now has opportunities beyond what you can give them, and you're mad at _them_? This is, like, Frank Zappa being mad that Adrian Belew quits to work for someone who can pay _way_ the fuck more than he can. Like, what the fuck, you're the one always going on about how great capitalism is, and this _one time_ you wind up on the losing end of the stick and you're a little fucking bitch about it. You dumb motherfucker.

Like I said. I'm not even mad about this boss for that. I'm not mad about him taking a company that was not doing _great_ but which had a solid market niche and running it into the ground by being an asshole to all of the contacts the previous owner had carefully built up over the course of two decades. Nah, because the thing was, he and his partners were stupid to buy the company in the first place. The entire business model was built around the company having a patent on their one profitable product. There was nothing else in the pipeline. Nothing else to keep the company going. And the patent was about to expire. Of fucking course the owner was selling, because he knew there was no future to the company. The old owner was gonna take what he could and retire, and he was happy with that, because even though the company wasn't, like, fuckin' Amazon or anything, he'd been successful. The old owner worked hard and mostly been fair to other people and he had, you know, _enough_. Like he had that idea in his head, the idea of _enough_. The old owner didn't have to personally rule the world. Not the best guy in the entire world, this guy, but as small business owners go... I mean when people go around praising "small businesses", it's guys like him they're thinking of. I worked for him for seven years, and it was a good job. A good stable job that I worked hard at, and in return I had, like, the stability and the security to make something better of my life. I did that work, the job didn't, like, do anything to _support_ me in that. It just did the bare minimum necessary to allow me to do that.

And then this asshole took over and it went to total shit very fucking quickly. But the thing is, I'm not mad at him for _that_, either, because by the time he took over I'd done the work. I had what I needed. I was able to move on. Not smoothly or easily, but when I quit, a little over a year later I had moved on to better things. And this asshole... not only did he not get in the way of that, but by being such a grossly abusive fucking asshole, he gave me the motivation to pursue my dreams. So in a way I'm almost grateful to him, in a weird way, for being intolerably shitty. For being someone I couldn't _settle_ for. Because for me, I look at the absolute utter, utter minimum it takes me to survive, and I say "good enough", and I don't try for anything better. Because "good enough" is just so much better than anything I ever expected to have. That's the biggest reason why, you know, I haven't done a lot of the things I maybe could have done. Because being "content" is more important to me than actually being _happy_, because being actually _happy_ by pursuing my dreams, that feels like a fuckin' losing game right there. Because I only get that if people are, like, actually decent to me. Which isn't something I have a lot of experience with.

And I guess I could be mad at this guy, you know, for not being decent to me, to the people around him, but he wasn't the first and he wasn't the last. The world is fuckin' filled witih people like him. It's people like him who run this fuckin' world, who determine what the rest of us _can_ achieve, and the only way to change that is if people can work together against them, and they fuckin' _know_ that, and if they work at anything, at any goddamn thing at all, it's making sure that we never, ever work together. So I don't blame us for _not_ working together. Because it's hard enough without the assholes who rule the world actively working to keep us apart. We're doing the best we can, and if we're not able to make a just world with that, well, _we're_ not the ones to blame for that.

But I'm not irrationally angry at _him_ for that. Don't hate the player, hate the game, right? But I do hate him, because of _how_ he played the game. Here's what I hate him for.

We had, like... we had this kind of enforced recreation thing. This thing to build "morale". Wasn't his idea. Was the idea of the director of marketing. Who had her own problems, but I mean... as shitty as the idea of "morale" and "team-building" is, as shitty as it is for the business owner to talk about us being a "family" and then... I mean, from my perspective, he wasn't wrong, because I came from a shitty, abusive family, and he as the, I guess, patriarch certainly lived up to that standard. I do resent him for talking about the company as a "family". I actually am irrationally angry about that, about people who talk about "family businesses" when what they mean is corporate-run dynasties, like, sure, Standard Oil was a "family business", and that's supposed to be a good thing, a good thing that they weren't accountable to anybody but themselves because _family values_. That makes me rationally angry, the idea that "values" were something that was determined by these evil, abusive motherfuckers, whereas my actual values were and are condemned as evil, wicked, perverse. But that's changed some, at least, during my lifetime. There are people out there who think of me as good and virtuous and them as wicked and evil. I mean. I don't think of myself as "good" or "virtuous", I don't buy into that manichean worldview, but I guess if one of us has to be "good" I'm probably more deserving of the label than this guy. So I'm not gonna argue with it too hard.

Anyway I am irrationally angry at him, at anyone, who valorizes "family values", on like a personal level. I'm madder at him, though, for this enforced recreation thing. Because I did work hard for people to have some fun. The marketing director was all, hey, you like music, you know all kinds of interesting facts, you should put together a quiz! About music! And I was like, yeah, that does seem fun. But the thing is, like... I mean, I'm autistic as fuck, and in the past, I mean, I would have taken that opportunity to show off how smart I was. Because I didn't necessarily have the social skills to realize that, you know, hey, this isn't about showing off how smart I am, this is about giving other people a chance to have a good time. And looking at things from that attitude meant that I actually had a really good time putting together that quiz. I worked hard at it, but I also really enjoyed the process.

The thing was you have a workplace and it was a fairly diverse workplace, people from all kinds of different backgrounds, ages, races, etc., and people with different backgrounds have different experiences with music, different music they know about. I got a fairly diverse taste in music compared to most people, though probably not compared to your average ILX poster, but not enough to speak to all of the different experiences of all the different people there. For me that was a good thing, though, it gave me an opportunity to learn about music that I didn't know much about. These questions were nearly all superficial questions, there were, like, one or two stumpers in there but mostly they were superficial questions. Breadth, not depth. The goal was for each person, no matter what they knew about music, no matter what they _thought_ they knew about music, to have one question where they were like "Oh! I know that!" And even better, to have that be a question that's not like, "Oh well everybody knows that". To really... This was one of my strongest values at the time, _everybody knows something that most other people don't_, everybody has _value_, everybody has something to _contribute_ even though most people are taught to believe they're inferior.

And this, I think, this I think is what gets to the heart of what makes me mad about this guy. Because there's this prize, this kind of meaningless prize attached. No real value at all. Bragging rights, basically. Since there was no real value to the prize, I figure, you know, no point in googleproofing them. Because this is a quiz for fun. It's not a quiz for someone to show off how smart they are. And everybody else in the company, a couple dozen people, they took the quiz that way, they had fun, they were like "Oh! I know this!", and the quiz didn't, you know, make them feel stupid for not knowing the stuff that the people who are rich and powerful in this world act like are the Only Important Things.

But this motherfucker. This dumb motherfucker. He goes and GOOGLES THE FUCKING ANSWERS so he can win the contest and get a prize of, like, no value. I look at him doing that and I'm like, what the fuck. You're supposed to be the leader? Everybody else is smart enough to realize hey, this is something for fun, let's have fun with it, and this guy, this guy alone, he has to look like he's the Smartest Guy in the Room, that he knows more than everybody else. And people do actually buy into that bullshit. That's the sad bit. People look at that and think guys like that are "alpha males" or like "Oh well that's why he's CEO", and yeah, that is why he's CEO, he's CEO because with all the stuff he has in his favor, he has to cheat just so he can win at a meaningless fucking quiz that was _designed for him to not win at_.

Yeah fuck that guy. I worked to create something other people could enjoy, and other people _did_ enjoy it, and he goes out there and tries to ruin it for everyone else, because his fragile fucking cishet white male ego is more important than anybody and anything else. That fucking asshole. Of all the heinous and reprehensible things about him, _that_, _that_ is the thing I will hate him until my dying day for.

Anyway. Gonna try to go back to sleep now. I think... I think being angry is important for me. I think getting out this irrational anger in this way was good.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 4 April 2024 09:26 (two months ago) link

If you're irrational for being angry about this then I must be irrational too. I have two bosses, two separate companies, plus another employee at one of those companies, that I still have so much anger toward. If you want to go further back I have a stepfather I haven't seen in about 35 years who is fucking lucky I live on the other side of the world because if I now, as an adult, saw him on the street, i'd rip his fucking head off.

Esteemed character actress (sunny successor), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:17 (two months ago) link

The Red Cross is always running promotions for blood drives - a gift card with each donation, a t-shirt, etc. - but whenever I donate I'm never given the promotional offer. I know I'm not there for the shirt or whatever, and I would (and do) donate for nothing, but it still feels like a bait and switch.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:42 (two months ago) link

a footie IA but lately every time someone gets fouled outside the box, fans of the team awarded the free kick scream "IT'S A PEN, CONTACT CONTINUED INTO THE BOX", when that would only be a pen if the player was being persistently held both outside and inside the box. incidental secondary contact in the box after the initial contact outside of the box isn't a pen.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:05 (one month ago) link

IA in that it's meaningless thing and I can just not answer (and often don't), but anytime I get in my car, throw my tunes on, and someone calls me twenty seconds into the first song.

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 April 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

"We are currently experiencing a higher than normal call volume". Don't fucking lie to me, motherfuckers. Do NOT. FUCKING. LIE TO ME. I know what the fuck you're doing, you know what the fuck you're doing, you don't need to lie about it, because what the fuck can I do about it? C'mon. That's just insulting.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2024 16:14 (four weeks ago) link

We are currently experiencing a delicious sandwich

calstars, Thursday, 16 May 2024 16:53 (four weeks ago) link

i’m getting more & more irrationally angry at 30-something podcasters who seem to have an entire ouevre of talking about things I love but were too young to experience & so they’re going to tell it all back to me like a game of telephone

this is my own fault for listening too far too many podcasts than is healthy

but omg

an episode about Kathleen Hannah’s memoir that starts with “we were too young for Riot Grrl! our girl power was Britney & Spice Girls…”


werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 May 2024 00:54 (three weeks ago) link

Akin to Gen X talking about Led Zep of the Dead?

calstars, Thursday, 23 May 2024 01:36 (three weeks ago) link

it’s really just the open flouting of youth that upsets me currently tbh

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 May 2024 01:37 (three weeks ago) link

Wait wasnt the Spice Girls earlier than Riot Grrl? Or am I so old I have my timelines all confused lol.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 23 May 2024 01:58 (three weeks ago) link

yes! i just worded it badly dont rib it in lol

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 May 2024 02:13 (three weeks ago) link


werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 May 2024 02:13 (three weeks ago) link

Riot Grrl was several years earlier than the Spice Girls

bae (sic), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:55 (three weeks ago) link

Bikini Kill’s first record was 1990 (checked), Bratmobile had recordings out in 1991, Huggy Bear’s first was 1992 (clearly burnt into brain)

bae (sic), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:00 (three weeks ago) link

Riot Grrrl (three Rs, take note) UK was over by the time Elastica started getting hyped - I remember a Bratmobile show in London where Frischmann and her friends (various Blur girlfriends before Jo from Huggy Bear started an LTR with Graham Coxon) turned up with crossed-arms body language and new haircuts.

A lot of fanzine kids (my peers, although I never did my own zine because I was employed as a music writer within a year of leaving uni) started Riot Grrrl in the US; the dedicated zines and Bikini Kill’s first recordings came out in 1991 - the Revolution Girl Style Now cassette. The first group not of the scene to co-opt RG was probably Shampoo, who ran a Manics fanzine (so not too far off, really). They had a Girl Power single before the future Spice Girls answered the help aanted ads in The Stage.

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 23 May 2024 11:21 (three weeks ago) link

Girl Power is sitting round the house, acting like a slob!! <3

kinder, Thursday, 23 May 2024 13:01 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

people who reschedule meetings to earlier in the day.

NO! you can't cut my preparation time!

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:00 (one week ago) link

otm kill them with fire

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2024 22:11 (one week ago) link

if someone moves a meeting from 10:30am to 10am that literally costs me £10-£15

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 June 2024 22:58 (one week ago) link

Lady whose credit card was declined at the cash register, with a long line of shoppers behind her, decides to 'call the bank and clear this up' as the cashier just placidly looks at her fingernails

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 June 2024 01:22 (one week ago) link

wait that's not irrational anger at all

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 June 2024 01:27 (one week ago) link

I used some “hand sanitizer” at the church and it was the same scent as my old speed stick deodorant

calstars, Friday, 7 June 2024 23:16 (one week ago) link

At least it didn't smell like Drakkar Noir which is Satan's piss IIRC.

Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Friday, 7 June 2024 23:20 (one week ago) link

“Scandinavian leather”

calstars, Saturday, 8 June 2024 00:06 (one week ago) link

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