start a victory garden and ration your IRRATIONALLY ANGRY feelings, part 3

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Yippee-IA, Motherf***ers! IRRATIONALLY ANGRY PT. 2: Irrationally Angrier

Bill Nighy the Science Gighy (get bent), Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:18 (six years ago) link

this is definitely an innocuous thing and it makes me more mildly annoyed than IA, but i don't like when people's facebook comments are nothing more than them tagging other people. put it on your friend's wall or send a private message. comment threads are for actual comments.

Bill Nighy the Science Gighy (get bent), Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:22 (six years ago) link

Tweets from highly and justly esteemed writers which are noting but their next bookstore signing, and (barf) the most asskissing, "now blurb meee" kind of blurbs (retweeted by blurbee of course) Cmon gimmee freebie culture dammit! Comedians even worse but ft

dow, Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:45 (six years ago) link

Musicians not as bad except some are stupid, tweetwise anyway

dow, Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:47 (six years ago) link

i find myself getting very ia at people who dont interrogate conversation, who just wait to talk and continue to talk talk talk and barely acknowledge other contributions

i like conversation when it is like a game of tennis. i do not enjoy being the backyard wall against which you repeatedly smash your 'conversation'

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 January 2015 05:49 (six years ago) link

a) never ever go on facebook; it is the absolute worst

b) unless you are drunk and desperately seeking human contact; even then it will be a mistake

c) would totally become unhelpfully drunk with jbr/dow/veg tho!

d) first round's on veg

mookieproof, Saturday, 3 January 2015 06:49 (six years ago) link

all round to my place for fap :D

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 January 2015 07:22 (six years ago) link

annual rolling threads that needn't be annual

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 January 2015 02:41 (six years ago) link

-pizza places that don't sell pizza by the slice

(I politely walked out of two pizza places in one day because the first one didn't sell slices after 6 pm and the second one told me there'd be a 15 minute wait because "our slicing pizza is still in the oven.' this was the one time in my life I was tempted to get on Yelp and write some irate reviews)

please login or register if you are (unregistered), Saturday, 10 January 2015 02:50 (six years ago) link

overly tailored tshirts on casual friday (ie neatly rolled up sleeves, tucked in etc)

just relax and wear a damn tshirt.

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 January 2015 06:02 (six years ago) link

Needing to work out if the zip I used in the construction of a pair of jeans last year that I wear regularly or if I just keep forgetting to zip it up. Keep finding it down anyway. So just wondering if it's the zip or my memory.
& it would be the pair of jeans that needs a special needle to sew the fabric.

Wondering how long I'll have to wait until I can comfortably collect a shelving unit without being absolutely p-ed on trying to get it home. Weather is atrocious for last few days and I need to transport this flat pack I bought. Waiting for an actual break in bad weather.

Stevolende, Sunday, 11 January 2015 10:52 (six years ago) link

That was supposed to say about whether a zip needed replacing or if my memory was going. Looks like the latter if I forgot to put in the bit about replacing. & i only made the jeans about 3 or 4 months ago so it should hopefully not mean a zip needed replacing yet. Keep finding myself flying low though.

Also trying to work out which side of the fabric i'm using for a pair of tartan jeans should be the outside/inside since they look very similar. & I don't want to get it wrong throughout. Guess that would at least be consistent though.

Stevolende, Sunday, 11 January 2015 11:05 (six years ago) link

Stevolende, I have a question about jeans fly covers. Mine constantly bunch up, exposing the top part of the zipper. I have considered that the reasons might be:
- waist is too tight (but it happens on looser waists, too)
- my gut is pushing down on the waistband
- the button hole has gotten loose, allowing the top flap to sag (though I have tried sewing up the button hole without success, possibly due to my lack of skill and understanding)

Any advice on how to treat this problem? Some kind of insert to stiffen the flap?

Here is a pic of the problem.

Je55e, Sunday, 11 January 2015 17:31 (six years ago) link

And so it's on topic: this folded flap makes me SO IRRATIONALLY ANGRY

Je55e, Sunday, 11 January 2015 17:32 (six years ago) link

I think I just tend to wear shirts outside my jeans so it's covered up. Will think about it but not sure offhand.

Might be that you need to make sure you've ironed the fly flap. BUt probably not. I don't know if I know enough about construction and subsequent pressures to answer. But could be that it would be good for me to be aware of that for future knowledge.

I've made like 10 pairs of jeans so far so it's still early days. & I'm not sure how successful they all are. Found out that some I'd made some months back really were too large at the waistband. Being largely self-taught I'm not 100% sure what solutions are.

Stevolende, Sunday, 11 January 2015 18:58 (six years ago) link

i don't like when people's facebook comments are nothing more than them tagging other people. put it on your friend's wall or send a private message. comment threads are for actual comments.

THIS. When the hell did this kick off? It is irritating. Ive clicked on comments threads that are nowt but tag-ins. Ive even had friends of mine tag me in some other random persons thread. I ignored the callout. PM me or GTFO.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 12 January 2015 02:23 (six years ago) link

start a victory garden and ration your IRRATIONALLY ANGRY feelings, part 3">Karl Malone

pplains, Monday, 12 January 2015 02:27 (six years ago) link

Online sellers who aren't satisfied with the fact that you purchased a product from them and did not try to return it or complaint about it, but hassle you RELENTLESSLY to leave feedback, tell us what you think, post about us on social media, blah blah blah

FUCK YOU I gave you money. You gave me a product. We're not married now. I don't owe you anything. I don't have to go to your parents' house for Thanksgiving and I don't have to write a review of your GOD DAMN cocktail shaker. Fuck.

carl agatha, Monday, 12 January 2015 17:24 (six years ago) link


I was printing out my parents boarding passes from Spirit Airlines last night and they offered the normal nickel-and-dime-you-to-death services and the option to voluntarily pay an additional $1 or $5 to help the airline be more green.

So not a service, just some random fucking guilty bullshit about how if we want this airline to be more environmentally friendly, give us extra money. We're already paying extra money to check a bag and have more leg room than a chicken a 12-by-12 factory farming crate, and now these fuckers have the nerve to try to extort money for their environmental initiative? I'm still so angry about that I can barely form a coherent objection to it.

carl agatha, Monday, 12 January 2015 17:27 (six years ago) link

I'm underemployed right now working as a temp in a law firm.. I got a ton of overtime last week but I am FUCKING FURIOUS because I HATE overtime and I hate my line of work because Im subject to the whims of capricious lawyers who dont give a fuck about my life or free time (or common sense/decency). The irony being I'm making time and a half and have a bunch more money than I would yet I am still FUCKING FURIOUS because theres a lot more overtime in the future.

It also doesnt help that because I'm a temp I'm realizing about 2/3ds of what my employer is paying the temp agency, which is basically the same amont of money I used to make like ten fucking years ago.

thanks obama

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 12 January 2015 17:33 (six years ago) link

^^^great CSR, there, carl. *screams*

I was a participant in the following exchange last week:

Cashier: 'Thanks for shopping with us. Can I take your e-mail address?'
Me: 'No...'

camp event (suzy), Monday, 12 January 2015 17:36 (six years ago) link

Hate it when I'm too fast for a website. Site loads, I put the cursor on something like "SEARCH" and click, but in that split second between those two actions, the site has loaded up just a little bit more and I wind up clicking on something like "CONTACT US".

pplains, Monday, 12 January 2015 17:40 (six years ago) link

When I started at TCS they encouraged us to ask ppl for their email addresses at the register. At first they said it like, "Hey, people might want to know when we have sales! Just ask, if they say no, that's fine obvs." By the time I left they were offering positive incentives to workers who got the highest percentages of ppl to give them an email. I got the feeling negative incentives were right around the corner.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 12 January 2015 17:41 (six years ago) link

Radio Shack has been really obnoxious about the email stuff for years

Nhex, Monday, 12 January 2015 17:47 (six years ago) link

lol Radio Shack was way ahead of the curve, they used to ask for your address years ago

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 12 January 2015 19:54 (six years ago) link

I just had one of those, cash purchase of an overpriced-yet-undeniably-effective hair care product for one of my daughters from a salon I visit for no other purpose.

"What's your last name?" "Is it 'Dusty' Perry?" "I'm supposed to ask." "How do you spell your last name?" "Who normally does your hair here?" Ha ha ha, who does my greying, thinning hair.

Vic Perry, Monday, 12 January 2015 20:42 (six years ago) link

Canada Goose Parkas

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:45 (six years ago) link

It also doesnt help that because I'm a temp I'm realizing about 2/3ds of what my employer is paying the temp agency

Not to stoke any further IA, but it's possible that you are grossly overestimating the cut that your temp agency is willing to part with.

Smoothie Operator (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:54 (six years ago) link

Very true. I used to be temped for Accounts Payable jobs, so the most hilarious thing to me was knowing the 'big secret' of exactly how much the company was paying for my services because I was the one processing the bill! (Of course temp agencies never ever want their temps to know this stuff).

I recall more than one job where I got hourly $13, and the agency was getting $22, and that this ratio was pretty usual, so, I got more than half, but less than 2/3 of the payout.

However, and this really ticked me off, one job that was largely funded by taxpayer dollars paid me way less than half of the outrageous sum the temp agency got! I think I got $9 out of $25 bucks on that one! No business like soaking the people.

Vic Perry, Monday, 12 January 2015 21:03 (six years ago) link

temp agencies take that much?! damn.

Nhex, Monday, 12 January 2015 21:04 (six years ago) link

i guess companies will pay to screw people out of benefits

Nhex, Monday, 12 January 2015 21:04 (six years ago) link

Most of the times I was ever offered to 'go perm' it was usually with a pay cut from what I had been getting as a temp ('but you'll get benefits') so, no, thanks.

One reason I did temp for a long time was that the pay rates had at least something to do with demand, whereas permanent positions tended to be successfully squashed. While it was humiliating in some ways to have the agency taking a lot of money for doing nothing but landing me the spot, that did save me a lot of dreadful human resources interviews and frankly, I just wouldn't have found those positions on my own. I also used to see the most interesting trainwrecks: places where I'd take over the suddenly vacated position of an embezzler, a revenge case, a blazing incompetent. Whole little histories there. The work of course was more boring than not so regular changes of scenery were helpful as well.

Vic Perry, Monday, 12 January 2015 21:31 (six years ago) link

lol Radio Shack was way ahead of the curve, they used to ask for your address years ago

That reminds me of this collection of anecdotes (I thought it mentioned the hassling-for-address thing but it doesn't seem to):

I particularly enjoyed VIII and XV, if you've got better things to do than read the whole collection of longwinded rants. But who would have better things to do than that?

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 12 January 2015 21:49 (six years ago) link

omg XV is amazing, I have no idea what that is

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 12 January 2015 21:53 (six years ago) link

baldie doin-brum.gif

they TRY to look like GOOD people (soref), Monday, 12 January 2015 21:59 (six years ago) link

ia: egregiously bad service in restaurants. i'm sooooo chill and forgiving about minor food service slip-ups. i don't care if you smile. i don't care if you refill my water without me having to ask. if i don't say when i'm ordering that i'm allergic to XYZ food item (which would be a gross overstatement, since my food allergies are really trivial), it's a minor inconvenience but not the end of the world if the kitchen forgets to leave it off. i just want a baseline level of transactional ease if i'm gonna choose your place over other places. i had work to do last night and i ran out to get a quick takeout order so i could scarf down some food and meet my midnight deadline. i ended up waiting probably 40 minutes for a dish that at most would take ten minutes to cook from pre-prepped ingredients and assemble in a styrofoam box. and the restaurant was busy, but not slammed. it just made me very stressed out. which is my problem, not theirs. i don't handle stress well. 40 minutes is a long time to wait though.

mitt fleekwood (get bent), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 02:45 (six years ago) link

no i in yr a

so to speak

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 02:48 (six years ago) link

the level of stress made my a feel i

mitt fleekwood (get bent), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 02:49 (six years ago) link

_lol Radio Shack was way ahead of the curve, they used to ask for your address years ago_

That reminds me of this collection of anecdotes (I thought it mentioned the hassling-for-address thing but it doesn't seem to):/

I particularly enjoyed VIII and XV, if you've got better things to do than read the whole collection of longwinded rants. But who would have better things to do than that?

Whoa thank you, aps! I read the first few of those when it was first posted, but missed the great ones you pointed out plus my favorite, the one w/ Stoned Craig going "I'm hungry, Paw." (Which I've said a lot to various people over decades for no reason I can discern, so maybe it's just part of the collective human drive to say it.)

Je55e, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 05:32 (six years ago) link

Stoned Je55e

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 14:49 (six years ago) link

OK that Brum story looool
Original Brum theme was instrumental but TIL there is an extremely lengthy modern version

kinder, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:00 (six years ago) link

bill gates the spider

kinder, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:04 (six years ago) link

News sites showing handheld video but blurring out the edges? I feel like I see something like this every week or two. Sorry, this is some really traumatic video.

how's life, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:43 (six years ago) link

lately every time i watch some crappy viral video prank, i get IA imagining myself just out and about trying to run an errand and getting trapped in a viral video prank. like that dumb telekinesis coffee shop thing.*

*maybe the reactions are fake, idk.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:49 (six years ago) link

It's very likely my last dying words will be "Turn your phone sideways if you insist on recording this."

pplains, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:59 (six years ago) link

Yeah, it's not because something is being blurred out, it's because people don't shoot in landscape and for some reason news organizations have chosen to present it like that. I think they should just reject all portrait videos.

Jeff, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:26 (six years ago) link

Why can't phones just format videos in landscape regardless of the position of the phone?

Je55e, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:29 (six years ago) link

camera sensor orientation? the actual sensor isn't square iirc, I may be wrong

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:32 (six years ago) link

those takeout containers with interlocking flaps - eating from them makes me ia bcz the flaps get in the way

i usually dump it out onto a plate of something but sometimes you can't & raaaaage

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:33 (six years ago) link

Ah, so it's just incipient dementia. Nothing to worry about then :)

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:53 (two months ago) link

I totally have the 'projects' thing too. My house has the best people, music, film collection and books but it's the one place I don't really seem to be able to relax and enjoy those things. Weird (but probably not that weird). I totally recognise the threshold between home and work thing neanderthal. The promise of freedom vs the reality.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:55 (two months ago) link

on a serious note part of the reason for sundowning w dementia (as i understand it) is a lot to do with the long shadows & low light

dementia affects their eyesight/ability to process light & shadow so as the shadows get longer it causes anxiety because they perceive the shadows as gaping holes in the floor/walls etc - its v scary for them

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 20:00 (two months ago) link

I would move to Quito.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 21:04 (two months ago) link

JUst been ht with teh first Custos charge since Brexit postage took effect. Dang really not sure what is being charged so is An post taking 3.50 Eur for something as well as VAT needing to be payed.
oh my, pretty broke anyway so possibly should take a long break before buying new stuff but god really could do without this.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 23:51 (two months ago) link

So for any minor charge on VAT or anything to do with customs An Post can charge an Admin charge of €3.50. Drag like totally.
Won't be buying cheap buttons from China again then. Or free p+p cds from UK branches of cd shops.
Do hope Ugly Things isn't automatically €5+ more to get to me.
Anybody feel like overturning Brexit at all?

Stevolende, Thursday, 29 July 2021 00:33 (one month ago) link

Lidl changing its loo roll unit size from a portable, fits in the bag 4 pack to a bulky inconvenient 6 pack. Wonder if that is now too big to fit in people's storage space too.
Now if they'd just asked me I woulda told them NO. It just ain't right like.
May have even worked out cheaper per roll but can you carry and store it? I mean prioritise innit.

Stevolende, Monday, 2 August 2021 06:54 (one month ago) link

Why haven't Lidl done an "Ooh Aah... Just a Lidl Bit" ad campaign yet?

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 2 August 2021 08:08 (one month ago) link

Idiot bus driver yesterday. I pressed the bell for the next stop as we pulled away from the previous one. This driver pulls back out of traffic and opens and closes the doors to cancel the request. I ring the bell again to make sure my request is logged. I think he's actually blocking traffic and manages to miss a light by doing this. I don't get it I've rung bell for next stop as we have just passed or left previous stop for years. I've seen others do the same.
Traffic had just been at a standstill for the previous couple of stops. so I'd wondered if I needed to get out earlier and walk from the previous stop but it had cleared by this point. Wouldn't have been helped by this guy. Doubledecker bus at a narrow point of the road.
I know the layout of streets around there so know where to take shortcuts to get to places. I was also running later than I wanted as it was which is why I'd been looking at the road to see state of traffic.
Just trying to work out if he'd seen me trying to see what traffic was doing so craning neck to see road. Which would be ablist attitude anyway even if it wasn't just nosy. & I don't think has any justification for this. Aargh . I'm puzzled by this cos as far as I'm aware it is pretty normal to ring bell for next stop as you go by previous one or leave it.

Also weird to see traffic full enough to be behaving like that. I don't think it has done for months but I only go into town a couple of times per week.

Stevolende, Thursday, 5 August 2021 07:41 (one month ago) link

I now have an irrational hatred of Dutch cooking (which I used to love) because my brother married a Dutch-American girl and at every family get-together, they monopolize the kitchen, especially the stove.

We used Italian recipes, so our family -brother included- has initiated a food war. We use the instapot for sausage and I force my way onto the table by making Italian dishes at home that can be heated in a microwave.

I know it's petty and passive-aggressive, but there are some things you don't do to an Italian.

Plus seeing my brother show up his own wife and her family is hilarious.

Donald Duck Loved Walt Whitman (I M Losted), Saturday, 7 August 2021 13:20 (one month ago) link


calstars, Saturday, 7 August 2021 13:29 (one month ago) link

I thought the Dutch were good at going 50/50 on everything.

pplains, Saturday, 7 August 2021 14:22 (one month ago) link

Got irrationally annoyed the other day at the elderly woman sharing a lane with me at the gym pool. It's a reservation system, the lanes next to the wall are extra wide and they let two people in at a time. Pretty much everyone chooses to split the lane rather than circle swim, to the point where splitting the lane is automatic - you still ask as a courtesy, but it's the default choice. This woman got there after me and was like, "Do you want to circle swim?" I said no, I'd rather split the lane, and she looked all doubtful and said, "But if I swim by the wall I bump into the stairs." Since I was there first, normally I would have taken the pool side and left her the side by the wall, but I wanted to swim, not argue, so I said I'd take the wall if we could split. And I did and it was fine; she stayed out of my way. But she proceeded to do the slowest, most erratic old-lady workout ever - a little bit of walking in the water, some resting, a little bit of quasi-breaststroke, resting, some very slow swim, resting, and then she put on her fins and zoomed for a lap or two. And I'm just like, "What in God's name made you think you could circle swim with anyone?" I'm not a fast swimmer, and I still would have had to weave around her on every lap. So even though she didn't manage to ruin my swim, I'm irrationally annoyed that she tried to.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 7 August 2021 20:34 (one month ago) link

The dreaded "circle swim" used to be the bane of my exercise routine. If you can't be allowed to maintain your own pace when swimming it ceases to be exercise and becomes, I don't know, slapstick in the pool. Will never forget the one woman who thought the idea of circle swim was to swim the length of one roped-off lane, then swim back down the adjacent roped-off lane (and thus presumably to swim a circuit through all lanes of the pool). Which meant she swam right into my face as I was coming up the opposite direction and socked me in the head.

Josefa, Saturday, 7 August 2021 21:22 (one month ago) link

Gah, that's awful. Yeah, circle swim pretty much only works if you're in a class where everyone's doing the same workout and the teacher has sorted you into lanes according to speed. Or if you're in an Olympic-sized pool where there's tons of room. One reason I joined a gym in the first place, instead of going to the public pool, was to avoid the four-people-to-a-lane circle swim where you're too busy dodging people to get any exercise.

Of course someone like the woman at the gym pool has probably always been the slowest person in the lane, so she's never had to pass anyone; she can just do her little routine and let everyone else worry about going around her.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 7 August 2021 21:51 (one month ago) link

Mindlessly stupid set up with queues in LiDl.
Difficult to tell whether there was one queue for 3 aisles or what.
& that is a stupid set up . I asked what the story was on queues in the shop and got treated like i had 3 heads or something.
I had joined at what I saw was the back of the queue but may have been better heading to the back of a separate queue.
I just couldn't tell if this vague free standing queue was supposed to cover all of them or just a pair or what.
Stupid idiotic system.
Luckily the aisle next to me opened so I got through it .
But jeez you'd think there would be some clarity.
& some help if there was confusion. Not sure if it all got sorted out by the opening of the new aisle and they wound up closing then reopening a different aisle one of the ones I might have joined.
BS System

Stevolende, Sunday, 15 August 2021 16:12 (one month ago) link

Now realising that the one response they have for that kind of confusion is to open a new checkout.
Well maybe any form of trying to herd people in a different way wouldn't work. Saying stand here for queue for this checkout aisle. & I think it is a ll a result of pandemic social spacing which I'm not sure anybody is following now anyway.
I saw that Dunnes has a yellow circle with footmarks and a giant cross across it to show where not to stand which is continually seen asa point to stand. But is not supposed to be cos it is right in the middle of the walkway.
& probably should have just walked over to the other aisles and started a new queue which I think I was just thinking of when the new checkout opened.
BUt maybe you just get used to chaos and arbitrary crowd movement when you are working in a place like that. Oh they're all stupid all the time. If people want to act like that they will , if the product is in the shop you will either find it or not.

Oh & drag taht it appears that fennel has gone out of season. I was just getting into the flavour being in the mix of the food I prepared weekly. Ho hum.

Stevolende, Monday, 16 August 2021 08:48 (one month ago) link

Just add anisette, Pernod, Ricard, or absinthe in its place

subpoena colada (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 August 2021 14:01 (one month ago) link

(Or just get really plowed on absinthe. You won't miss the fennel.)

subpoena colada (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 August 2021 14:02 (one month ago) link

true that, not as healthy though.

Stevolende, Monday, 16 August 2021 14:54 (one month ago) link

Bummer need to learn to speak french and Malagasy before I can watch Tabataba, just not finding English language subtitles for it.
Gorlumme thought it was enough to sit around and watch foreign language films . Make me more conversant with things like.
Now why aren't I being fully facilitated. Can't be a first world problem if it's a film about colonial Africa now can it.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:42 (one month ago) link

twitter links from here now cause my phone to pop up a "Open in App?" prompt that covers half the screen. 40 times a day.

(images on isn't really an option. maybe logging into twitter will make it remember my preferences. doesn't do it on laptop.)

koogs, Saturday, 21 August 2021 20:47 (one month ago) link

ime the embedded browser in zing doesn't remember any cookie preferences or login details

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 August 2021 10:44 (one month ago) link

zing? do i look like i'm made of money?

this is android firefox opening web twitter and web twitter behaviour seems to have changed in the last couple of days. but logging in seems to have stopped it. plus they can track me and serve me racist tweets about immigrants so win, win?

koogs, Sunday, 22 August 2021 11:42 (one month ago) link

ahh. hmm

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 August 2021 11:48 (one month ago) link

I was looking for a place to ask about what people thought of having to edit SRTs. I keep finding the ones I'm using being way out of sync even if adjusted to fit where the start of conversation in the film starts. Like internal structure is not actually in time with itself anyway.
So wondered if people did actually spend much time adjusting the ones they get either with the torrented video file or from whatever subtitle site they can get them from. Like if you have a reasonably accurate translation that is out of time is it actually worth the effort to get the timing right. I'm assuming that people would automatically want to have the subtitle somewhere in the vicinity of the words spoken in the foreign language. You can't be out of time and still follow how responses etc fit to what is said etc.
I've been finding that in some cases it is possible to get an alternative d/ld of teh film with subtitles hardcoded. Though am finding that my tv can not recognise some of the apparently hardcoded subtitles. had to get a fresh set for O Drakos a few days ago though the subtitles did show when i tried playing teh file on my computer. & the video transforming from d/lding from youtube appears to strip subtitles though may just be my tv. Wondering if that is something I can actually change programming on the tv for though not sure what i can do with atht that won't have a longer term effect that I can't tell how positive it would be.

Stevolende, Sunday, 22 August 2021 12:32 (one month ago) link

if the subtitles are getting stripped then they’re not hardcoded. you may be thinking of some container formats like mkv including the subtitles within the same file, so you don’t have separate SRT files. but that’s not the same as “burned in” where the subtitles are actually a part of the image.

there are usually many different rips of movies, and an SRT file will be timed to work with one of them. if you try to use it on a different rip it will almost definitely be out of sync. there are programs you can use to fix the timing but i haven’t done it in awhile. here’s a website that claims it will do it:

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 August 2021 12:39 (one month ago) link

could be naive bit I would have thought that a film upped to youtube was there simply as the film. so should be transformed to MP4 with teh subtitles visible on it. Which didn't happen with the copy of Never On Sunday I got from youtube.

Also the O Drakos was one file so I assumed it must have the subtitles burned as part of the image. I tried pressing the subtitle button on the tv remote and didn't get a response. So really not sure what the story was there. I had to get a different SRT down to work with it. Which was thankfully in time. But I had checked the single file on my computer and it played with subtitles visible. So really not sure what teh story is.

Stevolende, Sunday, 22 August 2021 13:13 (one month ago) link

oh & I prefer watching films on my tv which is larger and allows me to sit on a couch in comfort. I thought it would be a straightforward process but keep getting this lag happening . It isn't all the time but does seem to have a notable frequency.

Stevolende, Sunday, 22 August 2021 13:20 (one month ago) link

many youtube videos have soft subs, which i think they call “closed captioning” or “CC”. you can tell they’re not hard coded because you can turn them on and off. it sounds like they may be what you experienced.

TV remotes can’t handle all types of subtitles. actually in my experience they can’t handle many types at all apart from subtitles on live broadcasts.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 August 2021 13:23 (one month ago) link

if you used something like roku or plex to stream movies onto your TV you’d have better subtitle options probably.

if you had a smart TV, or anything capable of playing youtube directly on your TV, then you could just watch youtube instead of ripping it. but you probably know that already!

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 August 2021 13:24 (one month ago) link

yeah, Virgin Tv pulled youtube from its tv package a couple of years back which was a pain.

Stevolende, Sunday, 22 August 2021 13:29 (one month ago) link

I think remote just seems to turn on the subtitle facility when there is a subtitle present so will trigger the function inside a file that has them in the actual file or will turn on external file if it is correctly labeled. If it isn't correctly labeled it won't have the interface with it turn up on the tv. I had to work out that the video file and its matching SRT had to have exactly the same name before it worked when I started watching foreign films a few weeks ago. I think Lupin came with several language subtitles included in the file.
& if i'm thinking right more recent transfers have the subtitles included in the actual file as an optional feature. Though may have to do with the way they are ripped.
Would be good to know there were accurate translations one could access and then transform into SRTs since i have come across at least one film where the SRTs available are in a very limited range of languages. Not including English which seems a little odd but maybe ego constraining for English speakers. Would have thought English was still one of the major lingua francas across the globe but maybe healthier if other languages are in competition?
Anyway. Would be good if I could find alternative versions of SRTs or create a perfectly working one if not.
& not been doing this very long. Got turned onto watching a load of foreign films something like a month ago so have been wondering if the experience is the same. I'm still getting torrented versions for a large part. & then having to get SRTs for those taht don't come with them. I mean torrents come from all countries so presumably those from the country of origin for the film so there is no language gap between film ad circulating audience initially but there is for me.

Stevolende, Sunday, 22 August 2021 13:41 (one month ago) link

Dead celebrities do not imo continue to accrue birthdays thereafter

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 August 2021 22:34 (one month ago) link

Dead celebrities do not imo continue to accrue birthdays thereafter

Agree with this 100%.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:12 (one month ago) link

Happy Birthday, Frederick II, Elector of Saxony!!

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:59 (one month ago) link

The term is "anniversary of their birth."

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 23 August 2021 00:05 (one month ago) link

my friend this morning asks if they can ask me a small favor, I say "what's up?"

they proceed to record a 12 minute, rambling voice message explaining it.


i'm halfway through and still have no idea what i'm being asked.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 September 2021 14:34 (three weeks ago) link

12 minutes later...

it was for a ride to and from the airport. that's it. 12 minutes.


Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 September 2021 14:44 (three weeks ago) link

I can’t even.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 18:20 (three weeks ago) link

Meaning one time I just stopped listening to such a meandering message and only later found out I missed out on an important piece of info.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 18:23 (three weeks ago) link

council tax payment website has pointlessly changed after 10 years of being ok. card expiry date is now a free text field rather than a drop-down and typing 5 instead of 05 gets you rejected. which is annoying.

but it also now also asks for my address, all on one line!, which made me suspicious because it never has before. but look closer and it's an optional field...

koogs, Monday, 6 September 2021 19:39 (three weeks ago) link

hummus recipe final step
“decant into a bowl”

fuck you just say PUT you weirdo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 September 2021 19:56 (three weeks ago) link

Hummus must be decanted 30 minutes before use to let the chickpeas breathe

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 6 September 2021 20:04 (three weeks ago) link

i decant into wide, stemmed, crystal glassware and swirl it around with my palm

kinder, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 11:43 (three weeks ago) link

Can't remember which thread this was in that we bitched about it, probably multiple ones, but stepped foot in a Chipotle for the first time since before the pandemic today and was disgusted to see signs that said "We can only accept cash if is tendered for the exact amount, but you are free to use debit or credit cards". Despise this poor hating bullshit.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 September 2021 19:42 (two weeks ago) link

I've never thought about it, but it's also kind of a rip that the fare on buses in this town is $1.35.

When we were between cars, you know how hard it was to round up 135¢ in cash?

Of course I tried to use the cards as much as I could, only $1.25 per ride on those. But sometimes, the guy would forget to mail it to me.

The main point being is that I run into plenty of people who ask for help getting some bus fare. And I guess they're going to have to overpay, unless someone actually has a dime in their pocket that they're willing to give.

pplains, Thursday, 9 September 2021 20:07 (two weeks ago) link

parcel delivery = basically screaming into the void.

UPS is delivering a tablet my mother needs to use to go back to work, and the senders put the wrong address, but htey corrected this morning.

the driver puts the package is delivered at first, then changes it to Delivery Attempted, Redelivery Rescheduled for 9/20. naturally, nobody came to our door and knocked, there's no package, and no InfoNotice on our door.

every UPS person we contacted (3) seems to not see the Delivery Attempted status and insists the package was delivered and directs us to file a non-receipt claim, which you can't do because it recognizes that the Delivery is going to be attempted on Monday.

more of rational anger but it's like...resolving issues takes such effort that only gluttons for punishment like me that actually are willing to waste hours of a day doing it wind up getting them resolved.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 September 2021 00:56 (one week ago) link

...signs that said "We can choose to only accept cash if is tendered for the exact amount...


it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:24 (one week ago) link

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