Los Angeles Thread #11: Let's Save Vincente Minnelli's House

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happy new year! good shows coming up: nels cline, holly herndon, pharmakon. what else?

Bill Nighy the Science Gighy (get bent), Friday, 2 January 2015 07:50 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

i saw! well done.

record parlour in hollywood is doing another dollar-vinyl blowout this weekend. i picked up a nice stack from there during their last big sale.


no fucks given or implied (get bent), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link

i'm glad a new record store still places value on good older vinyl and isn't just a wall of bins of $30 animal collective reissues or whatever.

no fucks given or implied (get bent), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link

i am also going to six organs of admittance on the 27th, the pop group on march 10th, and faith no more in april. anyone going to that sparks valentine's day show? or babes in toyland at the roxy? (i see that babes are also doing a set at pappy & harriet's; there are still tix for that and they're only $20, if anyone wants to offer up their car for a road trip.)

no fucks given or implied (get bent), Sunday, 8 February 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link

Would normally be at Sparks but I'm up in the Bay Area next weekend. And will have to mix Six Organs, sadly! Timing, it happens.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 February 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link

My sis and I will be at the Sparks V-day show.

Virginia Plain, Monday, 9 February 2015 02:51 (nine years ago) link

Will definitely be at The Pop Group show on March 10th and at The Church at the El Rey on Feb 27th.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 04:19 (nine years ago) link

Is it possible to drive mulholland drive to Malibu? Last time she tried my sis says she ended up on a dirt road. What do we do at that point?

Virginia Plain, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

There's a section that's unpaved between the 405 and Topanga Canyon. Go to Topanga and catch Mulholland west from there.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 21 February 2015 04:39 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

WTF? The Tiki-Ti is closed indefinitely...

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 7 May 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Oh dear. Not much going on in this thread, is there?

pophatte (admrl), Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link

I just noticed there was a new thread. I linked this one in the #10 thread.

nickn, Friday, 12 June 2015 07:50 (eight years ago) link

haha sorry, i got self-conscious about posting stuff that no one responded to and then the thread died.

music begins where words leave off (get bent), Saturday, 13 June 2015 08:18 (eight years ago) link

^^^ story of my life.

nickn, Saturday, 13 June 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link

we're all still hung over from the pizza party

Cunga, Saturday, 13 June 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Brush fire in the Cajon Pass (with pics).


nickn, Saturday, 18 July 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link

Have a feeling the burning carrier of SUVs is going to be the symbolic takeaway


Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 18 July 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

hey so how does one find an apartment (/room) in this city

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 00:47 (eight years ago) link

Craigslist is probably the most common way. Westside Rentals is an agency you pay that is widespread, but I've heard mixed reports about them.

nickn, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 03:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah, definitely craiglist.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 04:37 (eight years ago) link

Another way is to go to the neighborhood in which you want to live and walk around, looking for "For Rent" signs. I've had luck with this approach more than once.

Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 07:02 (eight years ago) link

hey thanks folks! i'm craigslisting, i was just checking in case there was some slightly tidier route i hadn't noticed (apparently the closed facebook group los angeles apartments is pretty okay).

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 09:53 (eight years ago) link

Someone in the IE couldn't have afforded that many guns.

nickn, Friday, 24 July 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link

Just saw this posted. a 2-day free music fest at the Hammer. Artist list at the link below.

ALL THE INSTRUMENTS AGREE: an exhibition or a concert is a two-day program of back-to-back live performances by over 25 local, national, and international sound artists, music collectives, art bands, and visual artists whose practices extend into the production of sound. Conceived as an exhibition in the form of a concert, the continuous program of performances will alternate between two outdoor stages in the Hammer courtyard from noon to 10 p.m. each day.


nickn, Friday, 24 July 2015 07:12 (eight years ago) link

^^^ Sept 26 and 27

nickn, Friday, 24 July 2015 07:14 (eight years ago) link

DJ'ing at Blipsy Barcars in Koreatown tonight - starting at 10pm!

I can guarantee that $5 in quarters, cheap drinks, and a strangely bizarre jukebox is a far better return-on-investment than six months of therapy!
369 N Western Ave, Los Angeles CA 90004

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 26 July 2015 01:40 (eight years ago) link

hammer event looks dope but what a weird line to pull out of context for the title

resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 26 July 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

I drive through these neighborhoods every day and loathe everyone who lives there.. mostly because of jealousy..

in reality the only victims are other rich entitled fucks?

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

don't hate me, man (though not technically in a bh zip code)

i don't like these people either. i've seen race cars almost kill people, go on incoming traffic lanes, been cut off by them a handful of times, seen a totalled lamborghini on a light post, and hear their engines revving up a lot, and this is all in the course of 8 months

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link

when I was in the airport in a mexico at some terrible bubba gump a kid working there asked me since I live in LA, do I see lamborghini's every day.. unfortunately the answer is basically yes.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link


funny thing is these cars are usually driving on streets with a lot of traffic so they never go more than 35 miles per hour, yet you hear this huge engine sound

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link

i may rob some banks so i can go to Mets-Dodgers playoff games

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 03:28 (eight years ago) link

NYT discovers Boyle Heights.


nickn, Friday, 18 September 2015 04:24 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so what's going on halloween night, la?

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

My gf is DJ'ing at Blipsy on Halloween

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 9 October 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

Looking to move by the end of the year and I just revised my "things to look out for in a new neighborhood" to read:

- Local flooding
- Can record drums in it.
- Violent crime statistics
- Mudslides
- Close to metro train line station
- Sharks
- Nearby (not close) In-N-Out burger

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 01:17 (eight years ago) link

need to add: poisonous sea snakes

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link

how many of those are positives?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

elvis, e.g., el segundo, hermosa beach, manhattan beach, redondo beach, and long beach. culver city seems a bit of a ways?

are you willing to wait til the "early 2016" opening of the santa monica station?

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

I'm actually looking at places along the new segment of the Gold Line.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link

nice. i'm eyeing the (south) pasadena area myself.

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

I work a couple days a week in S. Pasadena and commute in via Metrolink/Gold Line. I'd absolutely move there if my income could support it.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 04:36 (eight years ago) link

Try El Sereno or Hermon, now that Highland Park proper is also getting pricey.

nickn, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 07:33 (eight years ago) link

I've seen a couple of new stainless steel garage door things in El Sereno. Word is out.

Forces out of my control intervened - looks like I'm bunkering through El Nino here in the OC.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 October 2015 11:14 (eight years ago) link

In the city of South Pasadena itself, add $100K-200K to the price of any house due to the school district.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 22 October 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

should have said "value" as opposed to "price"

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 22 October 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

5.0 near Ojai...

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Sunday, 20 August 2023 21:50 (six months ago) link

Is that why we got an alert here in L.A.?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 21:51 (six months ago) link

No noticeable tremors here.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 21:52 (six months ago) link

we felt it in Westwood. just a short sharp shock. I thought my daughter had jumped on to the sofa where I was lying.

bryan, Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:20 (six months ago) link

I'm in Benedict Canyon, I thought the alert was a prank.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:22 (six months ago) link

Didn't feel a thing in the SGV

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 20 August 2023 23:46 (six months ago) link

our apartment wobbled a bit, it threw me for a loop

donna rouge, Monday, 21 August 2023 00:22 (six months ago) link

Earthquake after a long rain was the scenario for a landslide in the Canary (or Azore) Islands that would cause a huge tsunami to hit the Southeast US. Nova TV show, I believe.

nickn, Monday, 21 August 2023 03:55 (six months ago) link

Raining harder here now. Can confirm that it's miserable pissy rain

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 21 August 2023 07:39 (six months ago) link

It's not raining in BH/Century City.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 21 August 2023 16:01 (six months ago) link

one month passes...
three weeks pass...



Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 26 October 2023 07:53 (four months ago) link

yeah i had seen that story. it's absolutely crazy out there with some of the smash and grab robberies, following the recent follow-home robbery trend, and this seems to be a really extreme case of both.

my understanding is they were chasing this guy on the freeway and if anyone is familiar w/that stretch, it's extremely busy at that time.

kudos to that dude who was filming them doing that, totally without fear (i don't know that i would have done that.) i hope that car wasn't stolen, those plates are very clear.

omar little, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:58 (four months ago) link

Storybook GTA mission

calstars, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:59 (four months ago) link

opening scene of heat, except that spot is no good. 405 is 7 minutes, and the 110 is a parking lot and 4 minutes away.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 26 October 2023 20:48 (four months ago) link

here come those santa ana winds again

omar little, Monday, 30 October 2023 20:47 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

And again!

omar little, Monday, 20 November 2023 19:25 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Found out today that the house insurance has been cancelled. We're a mile away from the state defined Very High Fire Hazard Severity Zone border (hell, we're closer to the 210 freeway than we are to the hillside) but nevertheless...

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 December 2023 19:54 (two months ago) link

i didnt know that that could happen? jeez

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 20:14 (two months ago) link

Background to all this from Sept. 2021: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-09-26/california-fire-insurance-moratorium-expire

A California moratorium guaranteeing insurance in wildfire-threatened areas lapsed Saturday, putting 347,000 homes in Pasadena and other Los Angeles foothills communities at the mercy of the market.

As many as 2.4 million homes are at risk of losing protection in 2021 as yearlong grace periods expire — though new disasters may extend their shields. In all, 18% of the state’s households could effectively lose protection, the largest single group since the moratorium law took effect three years ago.

“We’re going to pay the bill for climate change one way or the other, and it’s just a question of how we divvy up that cost,” said David Russell, co-director of the Center for Risk Management and Insurance at Cal State Northridge. “What California politicians are trying to do is tinker with how we do that. They’re buying time, hoping they get a break.”

Climate change has been rough on the world’s fifth-biggest economy: Wildfires torched nearly 4 million acres last year and more than 2 million so far this year; the Dixie and Caldor fires, two of the biggest, still aren’t entirely contained.

Fires in 2017 and 2018 alone wiped out more than a quarter-century of underwriting profits for the California insurance market, according to Milliman Inc., a risk assessment company. As insurers rushed to recalibrate risks, consumers were shocked by canceled policies and soaring rates.

In 2018, after the Camp fire destroyed more than 18,000 buildings, lawmakers in Sacramento prevented insurance companies from canceling homeowner policies in or adjacent to wildfire areas for 12 months after the day of an emergency declaration. The idea was to protect consumers after traumatic episodes and to give them time to make their homes more fire resistant. That, ideally, would prevent higher rates or cancellations.

“Even when these moratoriums end, they have given people time to make their homes safer,” California Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara, said in a statement to Bloomberg, an argument he has made on numerous occasions. “I expect insurance companies to take that into account.”

It’s hard to tell whether this is wishful thinking or effective policy. Even before the law was enacted, California’s highly regulated market was seeing insurers quit the state or refuse to write new policies. In 2019, the last period for which information was available, the state saw a 31% uptick in non-renewals. Over the same period there was a 36% increase in homeowners using the California FAIR Plan, the state’s bare-bones alternative for those who can’t get insurance in the traditional market.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 December 2023 20:19 (two months ago) link

ugh. for what it's worth, i owned an extremely difficult-to-insure LA house until a couple years ago, and i got my insurance through a small local brokerage, prodigy insurance, who were incredibly easy to work with and who went above and beyond repeatedly on my behalf, and i'd recommend them highly to anyone.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 10 December 2023 20:07 (two months ago) link

I wonder how many homes have been destroyed in California over, say, the past decade?

I suppose wildfires have been prevalent enough that a) our friend's aunt died in the Camp Fire, b) a wonderful Airbnb farm we stayed at was destroyed and all the animals lost, and c) a restaurant we went to on our honeymoon was destroyed.

omar little, Sunday, 10 December 2023 20:20 (two months ago) link

Adding up the yearly statistics at https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/ I get 57,751 structures destroyed since 2013.

A college friend who used to live in the hills above Santa Cruz told me that instead of resolutions, he and his wife began every new year by asking themselves "is this the year our house is going to burn down and destroy everything we own?" Eventually that did happen when the CZU Complex fire not just burned down their house but most of their town too. They got out with what they could throw in their car.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 December 2023 20:40 (two months ago) link

Maybe move

calstars, Sunday, 10 December 2023 20:56 (two months ago) link

The ironic punch line to this is that California isn't even in the top ten of most expensive states to insure a house. It's mostly all the tornado alley states + Florida.

(an acquaintance who moved to Texas for the usual "Southern California is too expensive, shitty, etc. etc." reasons arrived in Texas just in time for the 2021 deep freeze that wrecked their house's plumbing. their home insurance is four times what they were paying in SoCal and now they're having regrets from moving in the first place)

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 December 2023 21:16 (two months ago) link

I'm presently at the edge of a fire hazard zone, so feel pretty okay about that. But I'm in a "liquefaction" zone.

omar little, Sunday, 10 December 2023 21:27 (two months ago) link

Long-timers here like to bring up "every chimmney in your neighborhood collapsed after the 1991 quake" *sigh*

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 December 2023 21:57 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Long, but worthwhile read on Long Beach's attempts to redevelop and gentrify the gravesite of Acres Of Books


Elvis Telecom, Monday, 22 January 2024 02:22 (one month ago) link

w.r.t. the killings off of the 395 - I recently listened to the Dreamtown podcast. It's a long one about Adelanto and its attempts at being one of the first legal weed grow cities. In short, it's a clusterfuck... I don't feel particularly great about saying that Inland Empire corruption is an obvious background for modern noir stories because real people are involved here, but hfs


Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:45 (one month ago) link

i think what a lot of people who aren't from California don't quite get is the sense of overwhelming bleakness that can be found in some parts of the state, and the sense of lawlessness.

the above murders were enough to make Borderland Beat as a news story -- they almost exclusively cover what's been occurring in Mexico w/r/t drug violence but this could have ties to a larger cartel though nothing was concrete or pinpointed.


some authorities are blaming marijuana legalization(!) which seems like a bad area to lay blame.

omar little, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:01 (one month ago) link

The sheriff blames illicit marijuana, which seems more reasonable. Although you could blame U.S. drug policy in general.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:05 (one month ago) link

i suppose i err on the side of law enforcement making a dumb argument, he could however be arguing that the prop was a half-measure when a full legalization would be better.

omar little, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:08 (one month ago) link

not really related, i'm a bit astonished by crime around here and how it's covered sometimes, when i witnessed a drive-by shooting near downtown L.A. i never even found out if the guy survived, nor was it ever reported by a single news source. LAPD didn't tell me a single thing when i called them up. it never even appeared on the official crime map.

a murder that occurred one block away from me a couple years before that was reported by The Eastsider LA and seemingly just buried elsewhere (all i could determine is the guy was a drug dealer.) it makes me wonder what we never ever hear about.

omar little, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:12 (one month ago) link

A week ago there was a big raid on a storefront on E Colorado that used to be an illegal weed dispensary but something was going on that warranted a dozen police cars most of whom were unmarked. Zero news anywhere other than one person on Citizen

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:47 (one month ago) link

In other news, fuck this guy

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:48 (one month ago) link

In mundane news, I have been visiting relatives who live in Hermosa Beach, they've been here almost 30 years. Wanted to see music tonight, but got out-voted and we went to a comedy club here. Some funny ones. May do some tourist stuff and museums in the rain tomorrow.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 4 February 2024 08:09 (three weeks ago) link

Everyone stay safe & dry out there

jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Sunday, 4 February 2024 18:47 (three weeks ago) link

Made it up to Griffith Observatory before rain got too heavy. Had lunch at Gualaguezta , a Oaxacan Mexican restaurant touted long ago by Jonathan Gold, then saw Joni Mitchell’s old Laurel Canyon house, and the Laurel Canyon Country Store. Rain was coming down hard on our way back to Hermosa Beach. Decided to stay in tonight

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 February 2024 05:57 (three weeks ago) link

I'm putting on a c00l show if u like old punks for FREE at Canters on Thursday


kurt schwitterz, Monday, 5 February 2024 06:30 (three weeks ago) link

That looks fun but we will be down in San Diego Thursday. Some old DC punks are doing west coast shows this week- Hammered Hulls with singer Alec Mackaye.

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:27 (three weeks ago) link

guelaguetza is so good. sorry you’re having such a torrential visit curmudgeon!

donna rouge, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:45 (three weeks ago) link

Glad you got back to Hermosa Beach safely. I almost didn't make it up Benedict Canyon last night. In fact, I didn't make it "up"; I had to turn around, get up to Mulholland off the 405, and come down. Lots of mud, rocks, other debris. What a mess.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:51 (three weeks ago) link

BREAKING: A rain gauge at UCLA has picked up 12.46 inches of rain in 24 hours.

Per NOAA statistics, that’s 1.1 inches MORE than a thousand-year rainfall event.

The odds of an place in the Los Angeles area seeing a 11.5 inch/24 hour rain event any given year is 0.1%. pic.twitter.com/s2byz4u6Cd

— Matthew Cappucci (@MatthewCappucci) February 6, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:00 (three weeks ago) link

Hope Diddy Riese didn't get washed out...

atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:27 (three weeks ago) link

LA Times says El Nino and Climate change together of course have made this so bad. So we have been safely able to get around some, and went to LACMA yesterday and saw the El Chavez Ravine exhibit by Vincent Valdes and Ry Cooder about how Latino immigrants were kicked out to build Dodgers stadium and promised a new housing project that was never delivered. It uses a painted old Good Humor truck to convey what happened. We also saw multiple other exhibits there, and wandered past outdoor La Brea Tarpits enclosures by that museum. Ate at Oste for lunch and had Korean food at Jang su Jang in Torrance for dinner.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:30 (three weeks ago) link

Sounds like you're having a good visit, despite the rain!

atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:09 (three weeks ago) link

I saw sunlight for approximately 2 minutes earlier this afternoon and now we are getting hammered again

omar little, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 01:44 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah I’m usually one of those “bring on the rain” folks, but this is starting to suuuuck

atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 01:53 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah, it's starting to feel a little Blade Runner out there.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 02:30 (three weeks ago) link

Yep. My wife and had a good visit in LA & Hermosa Beach despite the rain , and despite not seeing any music. Then we went over to Joshua Tree for a bit, and now down in San Diego.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 10 February 2024 08:03 (three weeks ago) link

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