My name is Barry Allen and I'm the fastest man alive: THE FLASH tv show

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so i think this show has earned its own thread.

this week, in the last episode before the season break, the reverse-flash made his first full appearance, partially solving the mystery of 'who killed barry allen's mother?' set up in the first episode.

the reveal of the reverse-flash, which comic book readers will have seen coming a long time ago, nonetheless came way faster than i was expecting it to. the show has maintained an appropriately breakneck pace over the nine episodes so far, bringing in new supervillains nearly every episode and throwing in gleeful references to the dc universe which might pay off further down the line.

they've even found time for a full-blown crossover episode with arrow, complete with the classic 'heroes fight each other' trope, after a supporting character from that show made an appearance earlier in the season.

i wasn't expecting much from this show - i watched the first few episodes of arrow when they aired and wrote it off as a try-hard imitation of batman begins. but the first episode of this grabbed me and i've really enjoyed every one since. i've even gone back and started working my way through arrow, which definitely gets better as it goes along.

i mentioned elsewhere on ilx about how weird it is that dc's tv and film universes are being kept completely separate and will eventually have different actors playing the same characters, while marvel's shows and movies are tightly woven together. in some ways i think the flash and arrow doing their own thing is actually for the best, because man of steel seemed actively embarrassed about being a superhero movie, but the flash is admirably unapologetic about how comic-booky it is. it has costumes and codenames and honest-to-goodness superpowers which actually look pretty good on a tv-show budget, and they seem to be having a fantastic time rifling through the dc comics playset without having keep big stories aside to be used in the movies.

so, who else is watching?

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 09:52 (four years ago) Permalink

I didn't know this is being made again, quite like to see it. I remember the one from the 90s (?), how do both compare?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 December 2014 10:19 (four years ago) Permalink

they've both got john wesley shipp in them! and amanda pays showed up in the most recent episode playing the same character she played in the earlier show.

i don't remember much about the 90s show, tbh, other than the slightly ridiculous suit and that the first show seemed reluctant to introduce supervillains until mark hammill showed up as the trickster.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 10:26 (four years ago) Permalink

I love this show, but then I'm a sucker for the flash and always have been. It existing has made Arrow better too, and they work really well as a pair.

Haven't seen the fall finale, but I've been expecting Revese Flash for a long time. The only question was, was it going to be Eddie Thawne?

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 12 December 2014 10:40 (four years ago) Permalink

well, that question does at least appear to be answered by the end of the episode...

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 10:54 (four years ago) Permalink

they also did a good job of making the reverse flash look properly weird and villainous, too.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 11:04 (four years ago) Permalink

the first show seemed reluctant to introduce supervillains until mark hammill showed up as the trickster.

Which makes it great that Hamill's announced he's coming BACK to the new show as the Trickster, which is kinda amazing, really!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:44 (four years ago) Permalink

wait, what?! i must have missed that!

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:45 (four years ago) Permalink

question does at least appear to be answered by the end of the episode

Kinda except the "why didn't he kill me?" question felt sort of leading, and there's definitely some barry/eddie animosity being set up at this point.

This is the most fun show on tv at the moment though, yep.

JimD, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:51 (four years ago) Permalink

i wonder if iris' mum's missing ring from this episode will end up being a significant element in the time-travel plot they're setting up.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:58 (four years ago) Permalink

I've idly watched a few episodes of this - its not bad (I'm sure it's better than anything Snyder's ever done). It does feel a bit like Buffy-does-police-procedural as someone else noted. It doesn't feel particularly smart or emotionally engaging but as fluff goes it's not bad.

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 17:42 (four years ago) Permalink

it does get the tone of the DC universe right - there's this mix of playfulness and archetypal stuff, which is what I appreciate most about DC

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 17:43 (four years ago) Permalink

wait, what?! i must have missed that!

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/exclusive-mark-hamill-to-play-the-trickster-again-on-the-flash

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:05 (four years ago) Permalink

cool, cheers ned

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:49 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm like four episodes behind but I LOVE IT SO MUUUUUUUUUUUUCH

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 20:31 (four years ago) Permalink

What's the take on jumping in without having seen a second of Arrow? My girlfriend is keen to check it out, but I'm anal and kinda want to watch Arrow first. What do I do?

Mr. Bojangus (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 December 2014 20:36 (four years ago) Permalink

i love how much time they spend experimenting with and geeking out over his powers - patiently approaching them with scientific curiosity instead of suggesting he's captain kick-ass over night. i love that they've made him a lovestruck dingus but one that could acknowledge genuine chemistry with that hacker from Arrow. equally earnest and enthusiastic - the energy is very "with great fun comes great responsibility." always hated tom cavanagh in tv lead roles but he's SO GREAT as the big bad, his smarm now clicks with his character's untrustworthiness. One of the "don't trust the prof" epilogues involved GORILLA GRODD. I dunno if they talk about it in a later episode yet but i love how on top of everything else A SUPERSMART GORILLA has been promised.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 20:37 (four years ago) Permalink

i saw only the first half of the first episode of arrow and hated it. it's honestly no more crucial than it would be to read a whole other comic just for the occasional tie-in

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 20:38 (four years ago) Permalink

i am gonna check out the 2nd season arrow sometime though and then double back maybe

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 20:38 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I heard Arrow doesn't get really good until towards the end of the first season.

Mr. Bojangus (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 December 2014 20:41 (four years ago) Permalink

I haven't watched Arrow at all and have had no trouble following The Flash.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 12 December 2014 20:49 (four years ago) Permalink

I initially figured Flash was pretty much separate until they did a crossover episode so early in its first season and I didn't know what I believed anymore.

Mr. Bojangus (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 December 2014 20:50 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm on episode 5 or 6 of arrow season 2 at the moment and it's been consistently good for a little while but yeah, it was a bit of a slog to start with.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 21:13 (four years ago) Permalink

as implied by my ecstacy over the word "GRODD" i also love the little hints at DC lore to come, i.e. the dead Star Labs dude being named Ronnie Raymond

from what i understand barry allen made friends with arrow when visiting keystone city, then got powers, but lives in central city so they're more like facebook buddies than co-workers

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:22 (four years ago) Permalink

if this and arrow keep up the good buzz i think there's a very good chance that DC will wake up and incorporate these guys into film justice league plans. Unless Ezra Miller is all over BatSupes they've certainly got the time to come around and realize film/tv synergy wouldn't be a bad thing

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:23 (four years ago) Permalink

honestly grant gustin could be a bonafide celeb by the time the hypothetical flash movie is due to appear

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:25 (four years ago) Permalink

lol would love to see Grodd on this show

I haven't watched Arrow at all, totally inessential viewing in respect to the Flash

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:37 (four years ago) Permalink

as much as i love the dc lore/rogues gallery stuff, i think the thing that really stands out is how his power isn't a problem but the way OUT of his problems. even spidey in the films always acts like being spidey kinda sucks, barry allen's a well-intentioned dude who wants to help people and now can in ways that thrill him both physically and mentally.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:59 (four years ago) Permalink

true, he is refreshingly angst-free.

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:02 (four years ago) Permalink

it's weird/sad because I always stress to my daughter that Superman is not the greatest superhero because he is the most powerful, but because he always does the right thing. He's an ideal. But most contemporary superhero films depict superheroes doing the right thing almost incidentally - their real motivations are usually guilt or anger or some "this time it's PERSONAL" vendetta type thing. I'm so sick of that.

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:04 (four years ago) Permalink

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Funny you say that given the dead mother retcon that spawned half the series' major plot points thus far.

tsrobodo, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:06 (four years ago) Permalink

I mean I like the show but a lot of it serves to remind me why I don't read DC comics anymore

tsrobodo, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:07 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah he's still an orphan who can't tell a girl how he feels, it's just that being The Flash is a win rather than a burden.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:07 (four years ago) Permalink

I've noticed references to that (the case is unsolved or something) but most of that's gone by me or I missed it

maybe this is worth watching w my daughter actually, it's had a pretty tame tone iirc

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Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:08 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah my niece loves it but she's a Glee transplant and was sold at Gustin, that being said I can see it taking dark turns in search of gravitas in future seasons.

tsrobodo, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:13 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah his mom was killed by the reverse-flash (not a spoiler if you know what the reverse-flash looks like), with his dad thrown in jail by the weepy-eyed detective who then raised him. so it is personal but it hasn't stopped him from being a pleasant goober boy scout.

xpost yeah i'm worried the tone could change on a dime, esp if there's a change in management.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:15 (four years ago) Permalink

he named his quiz team E=MC Hammer

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:17 (four years ago) Permalink

i also love that cisco looks like he could have teleported in from any hacker show over the last twenty-five years

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:18 (four years ago) Permalink

he also looks like he could be taylor lautner's dorky cousin

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:20 (four years ago) Permalink

has jesse l martin always looked like he's about to cry? i never noticed that until this show. granted his character has a million to reasons to be catching feelings at any moment.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:23 (four years ago) Permalink

dude was a single parent to his daughter and his friend's son, said friend being put in jail for murdering his wife only it turns out the wife was murdered by someone with the same magical powers the kid now uses to risk his life constantly. meanwhile the kid really wants to fuck his daughter but can't because his daughter is fucking his partner.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I like this show a lot. It's generally been better than Arrow's season 3 so far (whose story arc for this season only really started in the 9th episode) and certainly off to a better start than Arrow's season 1.

It's fun and joyous and the supporting characters are all fantastic aside from poor Iris who really needs something to do that isn't obsessing over the Flash or being lovey dovey with Eddie. Yeah okay so bad stuff happens sometimes and Barry Allen's childhood was traumatic but it's nice that hasn't been used as a reason to make another tormented hero in the vein of Oliver Queen or Nolan's Batman. Nothing wrong with those characters, it's just refreshing to have some contrast/variation.

salsa shark, Saturday, 13 December 2014 12:38 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

ahahaha "absolute hot"

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:05 (four years ago) Permalink

"It's so hot, it's like, 'How much more hot could this be?' And the answer is, none. None more hot."

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:10 (four years ago) Permalink

man those cops were lucky cap'n cold shot his freeze ray directly at their shields rather than their almost entirely exposed legs

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:31 (four years ago) Permalink

gotta get the clock man to team up with 'em for the full prison break reunion.

pandemic, Friday, 23 January 2015 12:25 (four years ago) Permalink

and peter stormare's playing count vertigo over in arrow!

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 12:50 (four years ago) Permalink

xp that closing shot of the last episode, with the non-reveal of whoever Wentorth Miller greeted with, "Hi, sis," my wife said "If that's Sara Tancredi I'm out."

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 13:52 (four years ago) Permalink

That'd be Lisa Snart, the secret identity of The Golden Glider.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 14:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Felt unusually poorly written, between the exposition-heavy dialogue (admittedly its the mid-season premiere), cold's unexplained relish for the corniest villain speak (really needed someone to call him out) and little bits like jesse l Martin saying he's going to give iris and Barry time alone, only we pan back after the convo and see he just went to the couch directly behind them.

I'm not really looking for people to point out corn, cliche and plot holes in earlier episodes. There was still bits I dug and it pushed the plot forward, this was just the first time I was distracted by flaws.

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm hard-pressed to think of anything that in theory I want so much and that in reality I do not want at all.

Shaved Cyborg (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 February 2019 17:20 (four months ago) Permalink

still pretty baffled to see cyborg in there, and it’s kinda weird/lol that the ideas and character designs are largely being taken wholesale from a comic that’s now four decades in the past (gulp) but they seem to be coming at it from a place of genuine admiration of morrison/case so i’ll give it a chance

a surprise challenge that ended with a gunging (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 February 2019 17:25 (four months ago) Permalink

why do you have a five-person superhero team and put the same guy on twice

The Very Fugly Caterpillar (sic), Monday, 11 February 2019 19:48 (four months ago) Permalink

always good to have a backup

a surprise challenge that ended with a gunging (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 February 2019 20:49 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

so this doom patrol show... it actually kinda rules?

i've watched the first six episodes and it's doing a great job of capturing the vibe of the morrison run - it's surreal, unsettling, sad and funny and the cast are really good

very unexpectedly, joivan wade as cyborg might be the best of all of them - he plays vic stone as an upbeat, capable minor-league superhero whose deep well of personal tragedy makes him both a motivating figure for the group and also a good fit for their unique brand of fuckedupness

alan tudyk as mr nobody might be veering a bit too close to hamill's joker occasionally but he's good fun

really keen to see where they go with this over the rest of the season - it's a very pleasant surprise

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 10:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's pretty great. Apparently Flex Mentallo before the end of the season too.

The dating app Cyborg sequence might have been one of the season highlights.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 1 April 2019 10:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Goddamn it, I was trying so hard to hate-avoid this thing, you guys. Although I'm currently 100% sold on the utterly sacrilegious notion of John Constantine as part of a time travelling superteam so maybe I can relax my crack.

I am probably one of four people in existence who are hoping they eventually pull some elements from Rachael Pollack's run.

A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 10:29 (two months ago) Permalink

four people seems generous tbh

it's a lot of fun, you should def give it a try, if only to see how many ways brendan fraser can utter robotman's immortal catchphrase 'what the fuck?!?'

the worst thing i can think to say about it at this stage is that it seems to be a little too in love with having the freedom to have the characters swear, which is a very small complaint balanced against the knowledge that danny the street will be appearing in the next episode

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 10:35 (two months ago) Permalink

There's a lot of swearing, sure, but there was maybe as much in Titans with much less joy.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 1 April 2019 10:38 (two months ago) Permalink

ah, i haven't seen titans yet

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 10:39 (two months ago) Permalink

It was definitely... variable. The Hawk & Dove stuff was pretty good and the main Raven arc held up but Dick's search for the Wang was way too grim 'n' gritty. I didn't really care for the whole Who Is Starfire thing either, or rather it was way out of balance in that it was a very slow build then just sort of tossed away.

Obviously, the Doom Patrol ep was the highlight by some margin.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 1 April 2019 10:48 (two months ago) Permalink

I watched like the first 15 minutes or so of DP a little while back, and it was fine as far as it went but also it looked and felt a little too Berlantiverse. Now, speaking as someone who has watched almost all 915,293 hours of the CW shows, I can clearly roll with that aesthetic in the abstract but it feels like a bad fit for DP. I was hoping for something a little more disjointed, a little more visually psychedelic. And to the extent that they overtly make mention of them as superheroes...like the tone I'd prefer is that one scene early in Morrison's run where Jane randomly enters a store by crashing through a plate glass window and Cliff is like, 'don't worry, we're superheroes'. Maybe the show totally captures that steez, I dunno. I will give it a shot, though, guys. I'm nervous but I will.

A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:30 (two months ago) Permalink

can i soothe your concerns by letting you know that at one point they enter another dimension by disappearing - in a point-of-view shot - into a goat's aesophagus?

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:32 (two months ago) Permalink

A Paraguayan donkey.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:04 (two months ago) Permalink

aldo otm, i apologise for the mischaracterisation

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:06 (two months ago) Permalink

What's a mammal between friends.

Morrison schtick best captured I think in the showdown between the Great Destroyer and the other [redacted spoiler], especially the crowd who turn up out of nowhere and do exactly what Jane told them to.

The city Cliff and Jane go to felt more like The Invisibles if I'm honest.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:10 (two months ago) Permalink

I also loved the Admiral Whiskers story this week.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:12 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah, the resolution of the decreator story was a nice twist on the version from the comics, and the show's version of willoughby kipling was good, even if i was a bit disappointed he didn't look exactly like richard e grant in withnail and i like he did in the comics

the city of nurnheim was straight from morrison's doom patrol iirc?

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:15 (two months ago) Permalink

It's been a long time since I've read it. Might dig them out at the weekend.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Arright, okay, you can stop piquing my interest now.

Wishlist: Rhea undergoing metamorphosis, Larry becoming Rebis, Dorothy Spinner and the Candlemaker, the Beard Hunter (obviously), Cliff with spider legs. Plz don't spoil if these things have come to pass.

Mostly wrt Pollack's run, I'd like to see someone eventually do something with Coagula (afaik the first openly (and traditionally, if we're excluding like Rebis et al) transgender superhero).

A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:43 (two months ago) Permalink

beard hunter is on the way this season, apparently!

re: cliff with spider legs, did you know that morrison did a dry run for that look in an issue of the comic he wrote for marvel uk based on the zoids toy-line? it's one of those indelible images from my childhood - god knows how he got away with the very weird and disturbing image in a comic aimed at small children but hey it was the 80s, it was a different time etc

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:49 (two months ago) Permalink

I've always been curious about those Zoids comics. Maybe I should see if I can (ahem) find them somewhere totally legit and above board.

It's real weird to suddenly have these proto-Vertigo books which were so personally impactful coming to life on the small screen. I guess it remains to be seen what they're planning to do with Swamp Thing (his recent employment as a Justice Leaguer does not bode well but we shall see).

Hey DC Direct, if you promise not to fuck them up, I would cautiously encourage you to consider adapting Shade the Changing Man and Sandman Mystery Theater.

A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:58 (two months ago) Permalink

(I know the streaming service isn't called DC Direct so I don't know why I called it that.)

A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:59 (two months ago) Permalink

morrison's zoids comics are kinda funny cause they blatantly steal ideas and images from the alien movies and the terminator and only very slightly attempt to hide their inspirations

but they're interesting juvenilia for morrison fanatics, and there's already evidence in some of the stories of the themes he'll keep returning to over and over during his career

i may well have (ahem) acquired those issues in a perfectly legal digital format and stored them on an old external drive somewhere, let me look into it

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 14:07 (two months ago) Permalink

BEARD HUNTER KLAXON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwnClzXiMV0

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:06 (two months ago) Permalink

Last week's Jane-centric ep was really good.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:19 (two months ago) Permalink

haven't gotten around to watching that one yet but i did v much enjoy danny the street episode

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:22 (two months ago) Permalink

uh-oh

Production on DC Universe's Swamp Thing has unexpectedly shutdown as the show will be shortened, according to Wilmington, North Carolina's Star-News newspaper. According to several unnamed "sources within the local industry," Warner Bros. Television suspended work on the show Tuesday, April 16 and said the show was being re-written to end with episode 10. The series was announced as a 13-episode first season, to finish filming in May 2019.

According to the newspaper, Swamp Thing actor Virginia Madsen posted (but later deleted) a message on Instagram saying: "I’m beyond sad. What a terrible decision. We have been cut to the core by those who have never set foot into the Swamp. And despite the rule I am going to use the hashtag. #swampthing."

Star-News goes further, saying that the "currently in-production project is being shut down earlier than expected as its producer, Warner Bros., evaluates the future of its DC Universe streaming service".

Boris Bronfentrinker of Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:52 (one month ago) Permalink

This was updated by a different story that said it was nothing more than creative differences between DCU (who is ultimately Johns I think) and the creative team.

Of course, the same thing happened to Titans but was less widely reported because it was the first one to hit.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:55 (one month ago) Permalink

This week's Flash was an ABSOLUTE stinker. Nora gets worse as the weeks go on, with her mimed running my greatest pleasure in the show these days, but hats off to the makeup crew for Future Iris which made the Arrow flash-forward scenes look like Weta studios.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:57 (one month ago) Permalink

I couldn't possibly have allowed myself to believe that quality televisual adaptations of both Doom Patrol and Swamp Thing could coexist. It's neither right nor natural.

I'm shockingly almost totally caught up with the CW shows for the first time in about two years. Haven't seen the newest Flash ep but I'm definitely pretty over Nora and (lol) her 'running'. Is it possible that the actress* has never attempted anything riskier than a brisk walk? Supergirl and Legends remain this season's MVP shows.

*It occurred to me recently that, despite having watched hundreds of hours of their antics, I know almost none of these shows' actors by name unless I was aware of them before. An argument for the old-school 'montage of character scenes with the actor's name superimposed' style of credits, I suppose. Or an argument for me to pay attention to things. I don't know.

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 21:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Haha no

Flash is Grant something
Danny Trejo was Cisco's girlfriend's dad
Arrow is Steven (might be a ph) Amell (which might not be spelt right)
Felicity is Emily Betts Rickard (because a guy I used to work with obsessed with her after the Fappening)
Malcolm Merlyn was played by John Barrowman
Supergirl is Melissa Benoist (ditto Fappening)
J'onn is David Hardwood (because he was in lots of things)
Cat Grant was Calista Flockhart
Ray Palmer is Brandon Routh (because he was Superman)
Rip Hunter is Arthur Darvill

I think that's me. After 8 years.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 21:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Some other recurring characters

Tom Felton was Draco Malfoy in Harry Potter and a love interest for Killer Frost for over a season
Russell Tobey played The Ray, who appears in a lot of the alternate Earth eps
Chris something who was one of the main cast in American Pie was the big bad in Flash this season.
Biff Tannen is Steel's dad in Legends
Steven Amell's brother (Robbie?) played the Ronnie Raymond half of Firestorm
Clancy Brown has played some general who is always out to get heroes in the first couple of Flash seasons
Vinnie Jones was being set up as the bad guy (but not followed through with) in the prison episodes of Arrow

I think outside of that it's guest slots

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah see I was honestly unsure until just now whether the star of Arrow, a show I've watched for the better part of a decade, was Stephen or Robbie Amell. I know Laurel is a Cassidy because David is her dad. I don't really have this problem with other shows or movies.

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:10 (one month ago) Permalink

David Hardwood (because he was in lots of things)

, as the actress said to the bishop

blokes you can't rust (sic), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Regardless of whether I know their names, it's been a fun ongoing game for me to mentally rank the broad range of acting ability displayed on the CW shows. Like Chris Klein this season has, I believe, set the bar at an all-time low that I think is going to be really hard for anyone to surpass, to the extent that I'm marveling over the fact that he ever had a film career at all (aside from Election, where he was perfectly cast as a dipshit portraying a dipshit). All of the shows' leads are pretty dece imo. Upper tier in the ranking if not quite at the tippy top.

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:22 (one month ago) Permalink

The actor who plays Flash’s dad, John Wesley Shipp, played the Flash in the 90’s tv show (1990-91) which I thought was kinda neat casting

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:49 (one month ago) Permalink

His girlfriend(?) from OG Flash was also cast in a role on this show. Not to mention Hammill reprising his role as Trickster.

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:54 (one month ago) Permalink

Agreed on the awfulness of this week's ep. Hated Marvel's Civil War due to pitting characters with decades of shared experience against each other, hamhandedly to drive the "superheroes "fite!" plot. This last Flash had the same bad feeling of characters who should be able to rationally talk things through instead using ill-reasoned arguments setting up poor decisions to gain a predetermined end. But with the free rein given to Chris Klein's growlybear performance, it's just high expectations unmet.

And at least they haven't had a drum-playing octopus. Now watching Aquaman and hoping Marvel takes some lessons for Namor to avoid.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 April 2019 01:03 (one month ago) Permalink

TS: drum-playing octopi vs. drum-playing ants

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 01:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Ha! Well-played, sir. I gave the ant more of a pass because the comedy is integral to Ant-Man and the drumming ant was a robot. Definite Marvel bias in my suspension of disbelief.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 April 2019 02:29 (one month ago) Permalink

That Harewood autocorrect was a good one, thanks sic.

I spotted John Wesley Shipp (who also plays Jay Garrick, in a possibly even more on the nose role) and Mark Hammill but kind of put them in stunt casting along with Helen Slater, Dean Cain and Lynda Carter in Supergirl.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 18 April 2019 05:33 (one month ago) Permalink

I also did not know the David Cassidy thing.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 18 April 2019 05:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Don't forget Teri Hatcher!

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 09:54 (one month ago) Permalink

Yes, another from the in-joke stunt casting basket.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 18 April 2019 09:58 (one month ago) Permalink

And at least they haven't had a drum-playing octopus. Now watching Aquaman and hoping Marvel takes some lessons for Namor to avoid.

marvel, no weirdness or fun in yr movie about the king of sunken atlantis who cuts about in a chainmail speedo and can fly using the little wings on his ankles

Boris Bronfentrinker of Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 April 2019 10:01 (one month ago) Permalink

You insult my sartorial forebear and you insult me, good sir (violently wrenches chainmail wedgie out of buttcrack).

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 12:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Catching up on the last half dozen Supergirls atm and...am I nuts or does Brainiac Actor have seemingly no interest in maintaining a consistent vocal inflection? He sounds like a Hanna-Barbera character at the moment, which is not what he used to do. I keep expecting him to let slip with a 'Zounds! Heavens to Murgatroyd!'

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 12:13 (one month ago) Permalink

the beard hunter chowing down on a big lump of plughole hair is maybe the most upsetting thing i’ve ever seen on tv

Boris Bronfentrinker of Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 21 April 2019 19:54 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

The Flash finale kind of fizzled out tbh. The idea of the Reverse Flash masterplan (to avoid spoilers) was a good one but nobody in their right mind could tolerate Nora for a second longer and her role in the plan kind of made no sense with maguffin on top of maguffin. Chris Klein only became more unbearable as the weeks went on and whatever was going on with the mind probe was just impossible to follow.

Arrow wound up with a whimper too. By the end the future makeup actually got worse than I thought it was upthread and the wigs... But everyone's story is done and Ollie has gone off with the Monitor for the truncated final season which only goes up to the Crisis crossover. Hoping for Legends type insanity on other worlds. Will probably just get 10 shades of growlybears.

But then Flash wrapped everybody up too. No idea what it's going to do prior to Crisis unless it's just Monster Of The Week in which case YAY.

Supergirl continues to impress and confound in equal measure. The Lex plot has been great but the Red Daughter woefully underused. Haven't cared about the Lockwood thing - and the President cliffhanger was dreadfully mishandled - but the fate of Braniac going into the finale is superb. Needs to pivot back to MOTW and goofy silver age shit to make me love it but it'll do.

Legends otoh has gone from strength to strength to yet further strength. This season has been pretty incredible and somehow the race to the finale has been even better than an already unbelievably strong first half. Only minus points are for Mona's arc in the second half, mainly because I think she's rotten in *those* scenes (not helped by dreadful makeup) and is/was far better as the wide-eyed innocent dreamer.

Doom Patrol has kept the standards up too, even if I think Flex Mentallo is way OP in this version. The funeral episode might have been the highspot of the season.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 16 May 2019 08:37 (one month ago) Permalink


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