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He has some charms. He's a good interviewee.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

aye, hudson hawk was great. hats off (or rather, on) to the balding one.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

sarcasm surely, Hudson Hawk has topped numerous polls as worst film of all time

Willis is only Classic for Moonlighting and Die Hard

blueski, Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

get with it. polls don't mean shit. polls often put crap like Titanic on top, so don't talk wack. Hudson Hawk is DA BOMB. it's hilarious! somebody must agree. let's hear it for the Hawk.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

louder.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 10 October 2002 13:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

die hard is good, die harder is mostly shit, die hard with a vengeance was maybe the best action movie ever, he should do more of those instead of armageddon or whatever, i love death becomes her, the fifth element, twelve monkeys

s trife (simon_tr), Thursday, 10 October 2002 17:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Barry Norman slagged him off. Said he was an arrogant interviewee.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Thursday, 10 October 2002 20:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

shouldn't this really be on ilm, hmmm? i mean come on, THE RETURN OF BRUNO!!! gu-uyyys!!!

bob zemko (bob), Thursday, 10 October 2002 22:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

(note: intentionally fabricated wanker persona)

bob zemko (bob), Thursday, 10 October 2002 22:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

(but since when HAha?!?!)

bob zemko (bob), Thursday, 10 October 2002 22:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bruce Willis should be bled to death whilst wrapped up in an American flag. Armageddon made me sick.

Ashley Andel, Friday, 11 October 2002 01:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Armageddon was a definite low point, but I do like Bruce Willis. He has a certain charm, and he's versatile.

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 11 October 2002 01:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

an abysmal bruce willis movie (supposedly a psychothriller) was on TV the other night and I (unintentionally) turned away at exactly when his cock was supposedly on screen. (I find him repulsive I shall just assert, but dicks are interesting and you don't see them on TV much; maybe he had a double for that scene anyway). Then there was a party and Anton dressed as Bruce Willis which was fairly revolting (white singlet etc)

spectra, Friday, 11 October 2002 02:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like his kid's names (Rumer and Scout) but that might have been Demi's ideas

spectra, Friday, 11 October 2002 02:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

"die hard with a vengeance was maybe the best action movie ever" - sooooo true.

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 October 2002 02:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

He's not Oscar material, but I dig him

luna.c (luna.c), Friday, 11 October 2002 05:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

four years pass...
http://pics.hollywoodrag.com/uploads2/whatswong1.jpg

Dom Passantino, Monday, 7 May 2007 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

[quoteHudson Hawk has topped numerous polls as worst film of all time[/quote]

:} <but do u haev opinoin?)

g-kit, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link

+ ]

g-kit, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link

+ 4 years

RJG, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

eat a bag of commas

g-kit, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I tried to watch hudson hawk again last year and failed

RJG, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:25 (sixteen years ago) link

hudson hawk is awesome

Alan, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:29 (sixteen years ago) link

HH haters hate fun.

g-kit, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:30 (sixteen years ago) link

it's the only film with REG in it that i can stand

Alan, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i never saw it. i wonder what makes it so bad (or good according to some). not enough to see it tho.

i don't expect the new Die Hard will be good.

blueski, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:33 (sixteen years ago) link

liked it in 1993 when I think I must have thought or assumed it was funny and there was some sort of meaning or reason in

RJG, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:36 (sixteen years ago) link

we could do a poll

blueski, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I think that people that like it can't understand what's to hate, and people that dislike it can't see what there is to like. there seems to be no middle ground with this movie.

it IS a funny movie, but if you're looking for reason and meaning, you're looking in the wrong place. it has continuity errors thrown in for the hell of it and it's an extremely brittle movie... if you want to shatter it, it's simple to, but there's nothing to be gained from doing so.

g-kit, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Striking Distance was on the other night. oh man, what a movie. it's one of those movies where everyone in it just completely forgets how to act. it's like they have never even SEEN a movie.


Someone brings up Color Of Night on this thread. That movie is so amazing. Ya gotta see the long version though. If you can take it. Just jaw-dropping.


Live Free Or Die Hard coming to a theatre near you!


"When a criminal plot is in place to take down the entire computer and technological structure that supports the economy of the United States (and the world), it's up to a decidedly "old school" hero, police detective John McClane (Willis), to take down the conspiracy, aided by a young hacker (Long)."

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:48 (sixteen years ago) link

it does sound and look bad, unfortunately

RJG, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

So this Red movie.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 October 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

might watch it in a few minutes... bad?

nitsuh enbb (jeff), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I had to watch Die Hard last night (my wife had never seen it and felt she needed to "get in touch with the zeitgeist")

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

and?

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

(i like to stay out of reach of the zeitgeist myself, esp from 1988)

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

this belongs to a subgenre of film that I like to call copaganda

on its own terms it succeeds v well and is expertly executed. my problem is I find the terms execrable.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Die Hard of the Will

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

a minor plot point centers around a cop who, consumed by guilt over his previous murder of an unarmed teen, has been unable to draw/fire his gun ever since that event, but in the closing minutes of the film finally manages to overcome this psychological block in order to shoot a bad guy in the face.

I mean, how am I supposed to care about that

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

prescient! i mean i had no idea a cop had ever killed an unarmed teen before

to yr objections, junk stans usu say "it's only a movie," dismissing the idea that ppl who see dozens of these are in fact influenced by them.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

i don't think shakey needs you to tell him how a strawperson would respond

da croupier, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link

it's hard for me to say how many action movie cliches originated with this film vs. existing cliches it happily exploits but you can kind of guess them all without watching it - the top brass that do everything wrong, the underdog rogue protagonist, the helpless feminine totem (a barely written part representing female transgression against traditional gender roles and is thus punished/taught a lesson), the vaguely effete/european villain with an accent, the occasionally jarring bits of gore/uber-violence.

all in all I think I prefer Hong Kong's 80s action movies, maybe because I am more at a cultural remove from any baggage but man when it comes to the American stuff all the subtexts are nauseating.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

that moment in the resolution is super fucked up jtbc, all the more for its gratuitousness

da croupier, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

bits like that aside i still love die hard, but def wouldn't recommend it to anyone sick of american action film cliches

da croupier, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link

I once had a friend who insisted that Bruce Willis was the American Chow-Yun Fat but idk I can't think of any BW roles where he portrays the kind of sadsack/tragic figure the way Fat does. There's always the smirk or the suckerpunch with Willis.

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link

12 monkeys?

da croupier, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's kind of the closest I could think of - he's p much confusion/desperation the entire time, probably the least conventionally action-y of his action roles

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

also both his m night shyamalan movies

da croupier, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

I think a few of his indie [sic] roles qualify on this score, eg Breakfast of Champions, Mooonrise Kingdom

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

as opposed to being sold because a couple of youtube commenters say so?

i have no idea what bruce willis’s mental state is. which is why i’ve made no pronouncements about it, let alone ones based on the size of his family

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link

is that a euphemism

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:14 (two years ago) link

i did see willis at a taping of the daily show about 15 years ago; he was pretty clearly drunk

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link

Did seem that someone implied a larger family would make that less likely.

Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link

Maybe he's in a secret Brando biopic and he's trying method acting

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link

If the rumors are true - and I find them at least plausible, because something weird is happening here and this is as good an explanation as any - it's very sad, but I don't know that it sounds like elder abuse to me. It would be hard to point to where the harm to him is in making movies like this, assuming he wants to make them. If he is declining, and he wants to keep working, this would give him a way to do a familiar job in a familiar environment, with minimal expectations, lots of support, and a lot of people involved who have an interest in making him look as good and with-it and normal as possible. And a big paycheck, of course. It's hard to see who or what that would hurt, other than the Bruce Willis legacy and reputation. And that gets you into the question about which is of primary importance, the person's current wishes or the probable wishes of the person they were pre-dementia.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link

Also, there is a wide clinical range of what constitutes "dementia," especially early.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:34 (two years ago) link

I learned from that video that I guess he has considerable hearing loss in his left ear from a gun in "Die Hard."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:36 (two years ago) link

Did you know there's a Nic Cage movie where he beats up a ton of animatronic animal robots that have been possessed by Satan? And that he does not speak an entire word throughout the whole film? And that it just came out last year??

That movie is fascinatingly bad tho. Against the odds, Nic Cage has benefited from owning his straight-to-Redbox status as part of his brand since the mid 2010s (a lot of people liked Color Out Of Space too), whereas these Bruce movies all seem agonizingly boring and unfun.

billstevejim, Thursday, 10 February 2022 06:39 (two years ago) link

I’ve always had a bad feeling about whatever “red letter media” is meant to be just from the context but this is the first time I’ve actually looked at one and wow it’s way worse than I expected

chang.eng partition (wins), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link

(The contexts in which they’re usually cited I mean)

chang.eng partition (wins), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link

they're awful

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link

Total ripoff of on cinema at the cinema too

chang.eng partition (wins), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:50 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

CBS News:

According to Johns Hopkins Medicine, aphasia is a language disorder that results from damage in the area of the brain that controls language expression and comprehension. The disorder "leaves a person unable to communicate effectively with others," Johns Hopkins said, noting that the severity of the disorder depends on which parts of the brain are impacted. An aphasia diagnosis does not necessarily mean cognitive abilities, like memory or executive functioning, are impacted, according to the American Speech-Language Hearing Association.

However, in this case, it is "affecting his cognitive abilities," according to the family announcement.

dow, Thursday, 31 March 2022 02:30 (two years ago) link

It's a weird statement, aphasia is a symptom, not a cause, as I understand it. So it's probably a stroke or dementia and they'd prefer not to say that.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 31 March 2022 03:25 (two years ago) link

:(

Ste, Thursday, 31 March 2022 09:21 (two years ago) link

^ just awful.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 March 2022 10:59 (two years ago) link

Sad news. And yeah the story about his recent burst of productivity in low-rent movies is kind of alarming. But maybe it was just him trying to do whatever he could while he could. (As opposed to him being exploited.)

I can believe he was being exploited but yes maybe a different story will emerge over time.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:47 (two years ago) link

Sad news indeed. About the concerns of possible exploitation, I can't help but think of this Philomena Cunk clip from Weekly Wipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxTPEd_Skfc
It seems like, at least as far back as 2013 with "A Good Day to Die Hard" (15% on Rotten Tomatoes), he knew they were crappy movies, and he couldn't muster up a single crumb of pride (despite *acting* being his job) for them.
Philomena Cunk (sarcastically): "He's managed to make the same film five times without dying on the inside or looking like he doesn't really have much enthusiasm for the whole fucking thing anymore and just wishes it would stop. That's NOT what he looks like."

ernestp, Thursday, 31 March 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link

If someone wants to pay me $2 million for a morning's work, I'm happy to be exploited

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 31 March 2022 23:01 (two years ago) link

Jordan it could be a diagnosis of primary progressive aphasia - it is indeed a symptom not a cause, but there is a diagnosis of the pattern (absent knowledge of the cause).

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 31 March 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link

If someone wants to pay me $2 million for a morning's work, I'm happy to be exploited

Have you considered you might feel differently if your brain is in a place where you can't tell what's actually happening?

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 1 April 2022 09:37 (two years ago) link

Or what if you had some other organ where things weren't right, like the heart?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 April 2022 09:43 (two years ago) link

My god, if this has been a known thing for years (as that article strongly suggests), I'm horrified to wonder what the inciting incident might've been that prompted his handlers to finally announce his retirement.

Or if he had injured someone else too, perhaps fatally?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 April 2022 10:03 (two years ago) link

I think they were trying to get ahead of the LA Times story.

Chris L, Friday, 1 April 2022 11:28 (two years ago) link

It seems like, at least as far back as 2013 with "A Good Day to Die Hard" (15% on Rotten Tomatoes), he knew they were crappy movies, and he couldn't muster up a single crumb of pride (despite *acting* being his job) for them.

Moonrise Kingdom was right before that, and a few years later he was fired (and replaced by Steve Carell) after a couple days work on Woody Allen's Cafe Society. So he at least was trying re: better/more prestigious projects.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 April 2022 13:46 (two years ago) link

Looper was 2012...I wouldn't think he was declining then

frogbs, Friday, 1 April 2022 14:18 (two years ago) link

He was increasingly super checked out/disinterested going back at least a decade mainly in shit like expendables & dh5 but the clips that were going around recently were p clearly a different thing entirely

wins, Friday, 1 April 2022 14:54 (two years ago) link

nobody really brought their A-game to Expendables. besides maybe Terry Crews

frogbs, Friday, 1 April 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

Dolph Lundgren!

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 1 April 2022 15:07 (two years ago) link

He was increasingly super checked out/disinterested going back at least a decade mainly in shit like expendables & dh5 but the clips that were going around recently were p clearly a different thing entirely

― wins, Friday, April 1, 2022 7:54 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was watching some dorky youtuber going through all the zero budget terrible films willis has been in recently and the youtuber was mentioning that it seemed like he had dementia and having known people with dementia I had to agree, it really seemed quite shocking. it was obvious that they were probably doing everything in one take and bruce didn't care but it was quite beyond that

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 1 April 2022 23:44 (two years ago) link

(this was a couple of weeks ago, before the announcement)

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 1 April 2022 23:58 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Tinseltown is usually very good at paying tribute to its bygone stars. But it seems entirely likely that Willis will miss the entire Hollywood lionization machine in the final years or decades of his life: no career achievement awards, no late-life Oscar nomination for a surprising indie, no wave from the balcony at the Kennedy Center. From 1988 to the end of the millennium, no one made bigger hits, flopped bigger flops, and grinned more shit-eating grins. He used to be one of the coolest movie stars around. It feels painfully unfair to watch his work end with this kind of whimper.

Willis is barely in Wire Room, whose actual star is the Entourage meathead Kevin Dillon.
But behind him he leaves a fascinating cinematic record. To look back at Bruce Willis’ career is to see a man who became a megastar in an instant and spent the following decades torn: searching for ways to complicate his persona, retreating to what was familiar. There’s nothing to see in a movie like Wire Room, no hint of the Willis who commanded $20 million per movie and, ever so briefly, deserved every penny. But you don’t need to watch Wire Room when you can watch so many other movies.

As described here:
https://slate.com/culture/2022/09/bruce-willis-wire-room-aphasia-final-movie-remembered.html

dow, Thursday, 8 September 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

No mention of 12 Monkeys, weirdly.

Lear, Tolstoy, and the Jack of Hearts (Lily Dale), Friday, 9 September 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

yeah, 12 Monkeys is probably his best film

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 September 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

Well, besides Die Hard.

Bruce Willis made some really good choices to balance out his terrible choices.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 September 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

Also: The Sixth Sense.

dow, Friday, 9 September 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

Jesus, I hadn't seen anything from the cognitive decline/aphasia movies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUTjfOkVu7E

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 9 September 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

Kevin Dillon! I remember liking Heaven Help Us as a youth, now sure how it holds up now

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 September 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...
four months pass...
one year passes...

I’ve been re-appreciating Bruce since “Moonlighting” went up on Hulu

also Blank Check podcast is winding up their McTiernan series and I’ve recently rewatched Die Hard & Die Hard With A Vengeance

Moonlighting is really the key to a lot of what made/makes him so great

It was his second acting job, first big role and if you watch the pilot, his character is fully formed, right out of the gate. There’s no “wait a season” or “in season four he really starts to pop”

No. Everything that we associate with the Bruce that hit in the back half of the 80’s is all right here.

Die Hard in a weird way is, character-wise like a slightly wearier David Addison walked off the set of Moonlighting and straight into Nakitomi plaza. It’s all there.

And McTiernan is great at giving Willis some character bears to carry some emotional weight & show the melancholy touches he’s so good at.

Willis is also one of the rare 80’s action heroes who shows you the cumulative weight of all those shootouts and falls by the end of a movie, like you get to see the very human, wearying effect it has on him

I guess I have also been reappraising because of the dementia, personally taking stock of what we had while we had it and how good it truly was, because when he was at his most affable, he made it look so easy

I was wondering to myself where we the cutoff of his filmography is, time-wise, with regard to his dementia?

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 April 2024 00:10 (three weeks ago) link

*character beats … not bears lol

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 April 2024 00:11 (three weeks ago) link

(all that’s not to say he didn’t make some bad movies too - i paid actual human dollars to see Color of Night in a movie theater in 1994)

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 April 2024 00:27 (three weeks ago) link

He's in (and good in) at least a half dozen movies that I love, I like him in some stuff I don't love, but boy was he in a lot of stinkers. Even from the very beginning. But "Moonrise Kingdom" and "Looper" are outliers in his late career cavalcade of garbage, right? So my guess is it maybe started before then? He's later in "Motherless Brooklyn," I (and also nobody) saw that, is he acting in it?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 April 2024 12:11 (three weeks ago) link

If you’re a teenager in the early 90s with aspirations towards sassiness and an underdeveloped sense of taste, The Last Boy Scout is basically the greatest movie ever made.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 1 April 2024 13:13 (three weeks ago) link


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