Why do I suspect Niles is rapidly heading for 51...
― ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)
i really am enjoying how much this appears to bother him
― yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)
yeah
― omar little, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)
It appears to, it doesn't really
― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)
Why do countries not recognize extradition pleas?
― Where is Stephen Gobie? (Dandy Don Weiner), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)
imo they should just forget about the rape and charge him for fleeing, the victim wouldn't have to do anything. if there was a trial for the rape and she refused to testify there's not much they could do.
― steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)
I assume that's what they planned to do.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)
― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
u been using caps dude, come on
― yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)
In which case, could they introduce the victim's grand jury testimony and police statements, since she's uncooperative now?
Given the existence of those, and no new denial on her part that the acts were committed, can she be compelled to testify? Would any DA actually do so?
Yes, yes and yes.
― a wicked 60s beat poop combo (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)
no, he has to be able to cross-examine those statements
― steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)
i don't get the sense that it would take much for her to testify, particularly if it means closing the case once and for all.
― omar little, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)
why are people talking about evidence for a rape trial, that part is done, he pleaded guilty to it.
― goole, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)
Caps're funny, sorry. I am interested in all this, just not as much as my caps might've led you to suspect
― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)
right, actually. that part's done with, they were just about to sentence him when he fled. niles really is worked up about this d-bag child rapist fugitive.
― omar little, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)
There was talk that the plea could be set aside and a retrial ordered, though.
i don't know if that's possible or true but it was posed xpost
― steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)
The US-France treaty provides that they need not extradite their own citizens to one another. One of the links above says that Polanski is French, I presume that's why he's been out-of-reach all these years.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)
he's french!?
― steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)
charge them both with conspiracy
― Cousin Larry Soetoro (jeff), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)
sounds far fetched, especially considering he'd be up for [whatever the lawyery term is for fleeing the country] on top of it, but what do i know
xp re: a retrial
― goole, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)
i agree
― steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)
I can't remember which link, but I think it said he was born in France (which isn't what I'd understood at all)
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)
it has taken people arguing against the capture of a fugitive child rapist for me & bill magill to agree, but we do indeed seem to agree - a monumental day imo
― rather shipped (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:25 (sixteen years ago)
oh haha. you're right! i'd assumed france was only involved because he lived there. silly me
― steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)
whatever the courts decide, I still say not a single vote for Cul-de-Sac in that poll up there is ridic
― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)
― rather shipped (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:25 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
a landmark occasion
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)
First they came for the anal underage rapist fugitives and I said nothing...
― StanM, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)
So they could try him, find him guilty, then have him immediately deported? That would teach the bastard.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)
Question. If I ban 51 people, do I get banned myself or do I have to cast the 51st vote against myself for it to count?
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)
Woody Allen lolz. I wonder if his daughter/wife signed.
― Where is Stephen Gobie? (Dandy Don Weiner), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)
"You can't watch films knowing Roman Polanski is sitting in a cell 5km away"
What if he was 6km away?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:19 (sixteen years ago)
"judicial lynching"
LOL
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)
Oh fuck the law, it's not meant to be a value in itself
― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
no, youre right; its not meant to be a value in itself; theoretically its paired with "justice": the law applies (like ryan said about) equally and unequivocally to everyone, while the application of "justice" is specific and individual. the whole point of "law"; the whole, you know, foundation of its existence, is that you dont get to decide when it applies and when it doesnt, and "laws" dont care about how you were in the holocaust and your wife was murdered and you make great movies and your victim just wants to drop it.
people who are complaining about polanskis arrest seem to me to be confusing law with justice. polanski is getting arrested because he broke the law; the law is being applied to polanski in the same way it would/should apply to anyone, regardless of circumstance. now the case will be brought before a judge, at which point "justice" enters the equation. i imagine you would argue that "justice" will involve dismissal of the charges or some kind of soft censure; other would probably argue that "justice" involves a harsher punishment. but that's the whole point of "justice": its particular and distinct and requires that the holocaust and your murdered wife and your great movies and your victims desire to move on be part of the discussion.
to argue that the law shouldnt be carried out in this instance is to argue imo against the way law and justice work in a liberal society like ours--and maybe thats a conversation you want to have?
― fleetwood (max), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)
I misread that as "its particular and distinct and requires that the holocaust murdered your wife"
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)
thats "german law"
― fleetwood (max), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)
"Yeah but that doesn't count because it was old school paedoing, before it got such a bad name"
http://tmwl.project76.tv/Images/NBYkXT_PeepShow4Blue.jpg
― Bob Six, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)
He may have put his peener in her anal, but at least he didn't kill her like Glenn Beck maybe didn't do either.
― StanM, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)
Maybe the Ninth Gate is the gate to prison, not Hell.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 01:30 (sixteen years ago)
Has Jonny Depp signed the petition yet?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rm5M_p-9Cwg/RzbZjD93ssI/AAAAAAAAASo/tTtGleiKACQ/s320/Ninth+gate+-+Soundtrack.jpg
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/29/polanski.filmmakers.protest/t1home.freepolanski.gi.jpg
― ( ´_ゝ˙) (Dr. Phil), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 03:44 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/29/polanski.filmmakers.protest/index.html
― ( ´_ゝ˙) (Dr. Phil), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 03:46 (sixteen years ago)
I couldn't care less about his life, but if the victim doesn't care neither do I the end
― Niles Caulder, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 03:56 (sixteen years ago)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/931/fpol.jpg
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:38 (sixteen years ago)
Suggest ban for mismatching fonts.
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:40 (sixteen years ago)
It goes with the orange badge on pinstripes.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:44 (sixteen years ago)
I think it's weird how many people seem up in arms about that SICK BASTARD child rapist this week, but didn't have anything to say about it last week or the last two decades.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:52 (sixteen years ago)
yeah that is weird. did something happen recently that made this a hot topic? weeeeeirdddd.
― Cousin Larry Soetoro (jeff), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 05:12 (sixteen years ago)
Yes... Polanski was arrested in Switzerland last Saturday for extradition to the US.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 05:16 (sixteen years ago)
I think jeff was being sarcastic.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 05:17 (sixteen years ago)
I don't even know anymore.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 05:19 (sixteen years ago)
it was sarcasm but it wasn't sarcasm-sarcasm.
― Cousin Larry Soetoro (jeff), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 05:20 (sixteen years ago)