It seemed like they were setting up Michael to be a major character in future eps, which is too bad, cause I thought he was the least interesting of any of the kids. It's Randy that I really want to see more of.
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Still watching s4, almost done, but I have to say, Chris killing Michael's stepdad was maybe the most balls-out BRUTAL killing I've ever seen, certainly on television, possibly anywhere. The way Chris gets INTO it. Gives me a shiver.
― kenan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link
isn't there a judy blume book where one of the characters decides they want to be called "bubbles"? (but no one does)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link
other "bubbles" of note:
http://www.hula-la.com/girl_images/bubblesmug.jpg
http://slantmouth.com/articles/smoothCriminal/images/bubbles.jpg
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link
anyways - i'm a little over half way through the 4th season and am enjoying it but not even close to how much i enjoyed the 1st and 3rd seasons.
dear season 5: less children, more wires!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link
the fourth is really great
― RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
brutal but great
― bnw, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link
the kids are what make season 4 the best!
― max, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link
I really missed watching The Wire when I was in Japan. Now that I'm back, I'll probably go'n' rent season 3 tomorrow.
― stevienixed, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link
srsly (xp re kids being awesome)
― jeff, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link
Agreed. They're all such impressive actors, too.
And, as I kinda said earlier, Snoop and Chris are just soooo frightening. I loved the way that the beating Chris delivers calls back to all the times he was all reassuring before killing someone -- "Don't worry, I got you, I'll make it quick" etc. Now we see what happens when he does not got you. Goddamn.
― kenan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link
All muscle needs to be crazy, I guess, but Chris is lung-eating crazy.
― kenan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Can't wait until season 4 is on dvd, I have to stop reading this thread now.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link
s4 haters: u mad
― am0n, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link
perhaps. but for me season three felt like the natural conclusion to the whole thing.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link
not... really. Seeing as how s2 was a digression in its entirety from the Barksdale plot, why would you think the show was just about that one story?
― kenan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
ok not in its entirety, but in its mostliness.
― kenan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
i saw brother mouzone on saturday.
― hstencil, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
I felt like s3 came to a pretty decent conclusion for the series, not so much because of the Barksdale gang getting pretty definitively busted up, but more the combination of McNulty's decision to return to community policing and Bell's death. They were sort of the Holmes and Moriarty of the show, and each of them had reached a satisfying conclusion to their arc.
That said, I think the angle they put out for S4 worked out great and am really looking forward to the angle they've got for s5. I'd even like to see that slightly hinted-at s6 about migrant labor communities.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
was he reading harper's? get me my harper's
xpost
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
season five is the last season, pal
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
I remember getting told S3 was the end of the line, too.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link
that was obviously not the case considering the rise of marlo stanfield in season 3
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
thanks for puttin that better than i could oilyrags!
with season two it felt like filler - there to just consume space between the 1st and 3rd season (that's not to say i didn't like it or anything).
woah xpostin'
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost or carcetti
― kenan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
The rise of Marlo wasn't neccesarily setting up anything but the futility of taking down any particular crime org instead of fighting root causes. If you think the point of the Wire is 'winning' the case, you need to watch closer.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link
what would make an appropiate end of the line then, if not Bell getting got and McNutty siting back? The end of all drug dealing in baltimore forever and everyone making major?
they could just keep going with side stories forever (which would be fine believe me) but the end of season 3 just felt like a really good end.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
One and three I liked, especially for every second I could have with Omar or Stringer but there was way too much fucking McNulty, and personally I don't really care that much about the technical stuff of having a wire. Seasons 2 and 4 had the best personal dramas, I thought. You couldn't have ended with Season 3, because it was Season 4 that really got into the heart of what's so tragic about the drug trade.
Another interesting aspect of season 4 was how everything early in the season was getting us to believe Namond would get in to the game and Michael was the one with the head on his shoulders, which didn't turn out to be the case at all. I like that the show never relies on easy psychology, and how different characters are able to radically surprise you without ever seeming unbelievable.
― filthy dylan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Carcetti also had a complete arc in S3. It was extended nicely, but I could certainly have lived with it stopping where it did. Ditto Bunny, since someone will bring him up next, I'm sure.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
yes, but season 4 reveals just how carefully and for how long that had been planning and setting up another season. When s3 was rumored to be the last, Simon wasn't done yet.
― kenan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
he wasn't reading a harper's, unfortunately. did you know that his ass't who was told to get the harper's was the kid from "the corner?" as in, the actual kid the book is about, not an actor?
― hstencil, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
If you think the point of the Wire is 'winning' the case, you need to watch closer.
don't you fucking tell me how to watch the wire
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
haha
― kenan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
i'll fix your clock like prop joe
eat a lollipop like mar-lo
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Actually, the end of Deadwood at S3 is a pretty good reflection of The Wire at the end of S3. Sure, there's plenty more you CAN do. But important conclusions have been reached, and on the whole, its quite satisfying as it stands.
That said, sure, I'd LOVE to have some more Deadwood.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
"don't you fucking tell me how to watch the wire"
I recommend using both eyes, and the organ behind them.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link
wtf organ is behind the eyes?
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
freak!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
http://medweb.bham.ac.uk/research/toescu/Resources/Homepage/HumBrainProfile%202.gif
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
my brain is a muscle
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
i was under the impression the brian was not an organ. but i have now been wikiducated and will now go get one. morans.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
Sometimes I think my brain is a clavinet, actually.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link
there's a few of the wire kids in that decent movie "half nelson".
― bnw, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link
It's got the "Fresh" kid in it too, right? Man, that was a good movie. He was good on "The Corner" too, to take it back to David Simon.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Bodie was on Oz but that show is ballz
did you know that his ass't who was told to get the harper's was the kid from "the corner?" as in, the actual kid the book is about, not an actor?
-- hstencil, Wednesday, June 13, 2007 3:29 PM (8 hours ago)
thats awesome, totally didn't recognize him. what's that mouzone line? "your homophobia.. is so visceral"
― am0n, Thursday, 14 June 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link
ok, now I've seen all of it that you have. At long last. I'm still watching s4 episodes twice, and still catching more. Like that Michael was sexually abused by his stepfather. I did not get that the first time, because Michael hates him, but wtf he's an 8th grader, maybe he's he's being crazy irrational and just wants control of the house. But the scene when he rushes home and finds his stepdad with Bug all cradled-like, and Michael orders Bug over, and Bug follows, and stepdad says nothing even though it's his own son... it took two viewings, but I finally got it. And it adds up all down the line. Michael is distrustful of Cutty because Cutty is... on one level, having sex, which makes Michael uncomfortable enough, and on another level, having sex that is kind of illicit, at least in Michael's mind.
Aaaaaanyway. I could go on and on. But instead I will go to bed.
― kenan, Friday, 15 June 2007 04:13 (seventeen years ago) link
We just finished S3. I ab-so-lu-te-ly adore this show. We'll have to wait a few months till we can rent S4 tho. :-(
― nathalie, Monday, 2 July 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link
no no... download it!
― kenan, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link
coming back from my jog today i came across the familiar line of haddad's trucks. followed them to the outside set where i watched them film a few takes of clay davis coming down the court steps and making some sort of victory speech after apparently winning some case against him xD xD
― am0n, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link