Anjelica Houston is a nonce.
― bamcquern, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i love how that huffington poster's indictment of the swiss is: laundering nazi gold, denying women the vote, serving a warrant on a statutory rapist.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
what sentence was he looking at then? i think he'd have been better off to have served it
According to BBC website:
"He was initially indicted on six counts and faced up to life in prison."
Not entirely surprised he skipped the country on that basis, but as you say the justice system has a long memory.
― Bill A, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
dude should have resurrected his drag look from The Tenant to escape detection
http://www.pop-pervert.com/files/men_as_women-06.jpg
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
if the americans wanted to arrest him,they could have done it many times on the past decades.Polanski didnt hide while being all over the world.thats why the swiss are weird about it. my guess is that this arrest story will end as fast as it begun,cause right or wrong - no one seems to give a fuck about that case.
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't honestly care either way but i thought the us had tried a couple times and failed because he didn't show up where he was supposed to?
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"but on the legal facts this is BS"
Whuh?
"what sentence was he looking at then?"
It wasn't entirely clear. Originally the plea bargain called for it to be something ridiculous like probation plus some community service and like six months in a minimum security prison. The judge decided at the last moment that this was crazy for the (anal) rape of a 13 year old and began to try to figure out a harsher (but presumably not anywhere close to life) sentence and then Polanski decided he'd had enough and ran away.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
and france has a different extradition agreement from switzerland so they had to know he was leaving france ahead of time. it's not so easy for the us to set up the arrest + extradition that they could have just done it. i don't know. xpost
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
"if the americans wanted to arrest him,they could have done it many times on the past decades."
They could have? I wasn't aware he'd entered into any country that had extradition treaties with the US.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I always thought Jack Nicholson deserved some measure of opprobrium for knowing Polanski would use his house for pedo fun. What can you say, Jack? It was the seventies.
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link
it's not like catching bin laden...you gotta give the u.s. more credit than just waiting passively for him to show up where he suppose to other than actively go and take him by force. plus,theres a thing called the interpol, which was never used.conclusion: the u.s. don't care.
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i haven't researched it but i don't believe they could have showed up and just taken him. it's also a state case. the DA had to ask the us justice dept to make the warrant, which was sent to switzerland to use their extradition treaty. so there's 3 separate governments involved.
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
"The girl was just a few weeks short of her 14th birthday, which was the age of consent in California."
Pretty sure it was 18 even then.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
but on the legal facts this is BS.
― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius)
not a juris doctor iirc
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
"he'd entered into any country that had extradition treaties with the US"
he was, for example, in Israel.
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't buy any of the arguments that Polanski doesn't deserve anything he gets at this point. This was a pretty despicable crime (he DRUGGED and then ANALLY RAPED a minor fer crying out loud) and the fact that he's a famous great director and seventy-six years old and once in Israel doesn't mean he should walk away scot free. So whatever happened that resulted in this, good on the Swiss.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
^otm
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
anyone else arguing otherwise is honestly insane
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i didnt say he doesn't or does deserve this,i'm just saying that objectively no one except from the swiss seems to care.at least uo to this point.
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
huh? the swiss didn't arrest him all by themselves!
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
hey man he had a rough half decade
xpost
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
"objectively"
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-mew-polanski28-2009sep28,0,6506344.story?track=rss
The Los Angeles County district attorney's office learned last week that Polanski had plans to travel to Zurich this weekend, said Sandi Gibbons, spokeswoman for the district attorney's office.Prosecutors sent a provisional arrest warrant to the U.S. Justice Department, which presented it to Swiss authorities. On at least two previous occasions, the district attorney's office has received reports that Polanski had travel arrangements to countries with extradition treaties with the U.S. and prepared paperwork for his arrest, Gibbons said."But in the end, he apparently found out about it and didn't go," she said.
Prosecutors sent a provisional arrest warrant to the U.S. Justice Department, which presented it to Swiss authorities. On at least two previous occasions, the district attorney's office has received reports that Polanski had travel arrangements to countries with extradition treaties with the U.S. and prepared paperwork for his arrest, Gibbons said.
"But in the end, he apparently found out about it and didn't go," she said.
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
oy vey, expect to see a lot of this saving o' the p'dohttp://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/09/the_outrageous_arrest_of_roman.html
― (anal) (velko), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
haha [here's a whole bunch of facts that are irrelevant] [therefore, i conclude switzerland is ridiculous]
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
just to be clear, my comment upthread was meant to be facetious.
― Super Cub, Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
arguments for arresting polanski: he committed a serious crime by drugging and raping a pubescent girl
arguments against arresting polanski: it happened 30 years ago!!!!! and, you know, he was in the holocaust!!! and besides, the swiss!!! you know!!! nazi bankers!!!
― fleetwood (max), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
and chinatown!!!!!!!!!!!
he has already paid so much in lawyer's fees. just let him go.
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
He did commit a crime, but he has paid for the crime in many, many ways: In notoriety, in lawyers' fees, in professional stigma. He could not return to Los Angeles to receive his recent Oscar. He cannot visit Hollywood to direct or cast a film.
i mean, is this actually something that was written by a human or what?
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Part of the transcript.
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
he can't even visit hollywood! isn't that enough?
also the victim doesn't want him to go back on trial and would rather just let it die
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
it was the 70s,anal sex with almost 14 year olds was all the rage. lighten up!
― (anal) (velko), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I am certain there are many who will harrumph that, following this arrest, justice was done at last. But Polanski is 76. To put him on trial or keep him in jail does not serve society in general or his victim in particular. Nor does it prove the doggedness and earnestness of the American legal system. If he weren't famous, I bet no one would bother with him at all.
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
She's certain, you see, so stop harrumphing!
yeah i remember when adrien brody declined to be in "the pianist" because of the stigma surrounding roman polanski and i thought to myself "i wish there wasn't such a stigma surrounding roman polanski. he'll never even get to win an academy award."
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
don't you harrumph just becuz polanski was herrumping
― (anal) (velko), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
he had to find some no-name c-lister like harrison ford to accept the oscar for him, isnt that basically the same thing as a jail sentence?
― fleetwood (max), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
also, he's european. that's how they roll over there. in france if you sleep with a 14 yr old girl the president has some cheese and wine with you.
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey Ann Applebaum do you have a young daughter? How about I rape her??? Please, I just love raping little girls.
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
http://karlandkinggeorge.com/images/Hackman__The_Birdcage.png
"I've seen this kind of thing before. Aristotle Onassis was just like this. And all the French. Especially Mitterand. And the English. Not Margaret Thatcher, of course..."
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
One more thing...this 13 year old girl was no virgin. She had had sex at least twice before by her own testimony. What kind of girl goes to a house with a grown man, drinks champagne, gets in a hot tub...etc. Again...not condoning what he did but he's paid his debt in my book.
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― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Honestly, his movies should all be destroyed.
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
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― (anal) (velko), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
haha
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link
LIberals have no problem with diddling children...the normal world does......
Liberalism on display is losing support globally ... 2010 will mark the end of a foolish experiment with wishful thinking.
Liberalism is a failed concept..reality bites it in the but daily...see ObamaCare, Obama's foreign policy, Obama's economic policy ...and on and on.
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― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-farr/leniency-for-polanski_b_301269.html
― (anal) (velko), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
But the story of what Polanski suffered even before the unspeakable trauma of having his pregnant wife Sharon Tate butchered in the spooky twilight of the turbulent Sixties makes me believe that overall, he's as much victim as predator himself.
― (anal) (velko), Sunday, 27 September 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big_picture/2009/09/roman-polanski-still-being-stalked-by-la-county-prosecutors.html
― (anal) (velko), Monday, 28 September 2009 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link