Doubt he was the sucka, Alex
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Sunday, 27 September 2009 13:37 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joan-z-shore/polanskis-arrest-shame-on_b_301134.html
o_O
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)
Well, I kind of agree with that article (apart from the call for banning Swiss stuff, that is just silly). But I mean hey, it's been THREE DECADES.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2XTuc6i1Uo
― omar little, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:32 (sixteen years ago)
the age of consent was 14?? the fuck?
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:33 (sixteen years ago)
i dunno, blaming the victim and whitewashing the fact that she was 13 ("almost 14")is some bullshit.
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:34 (sixteen years ago)
Of course, the "but the parents trusted her to be with him" is bogus. But it still seems utterly ridiculous to me for America to still claim his head on a platter.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)
There are surely more important issues in the world, and more villainous rogues at large that we should be attending to.
^^^^ always the kicker in a poorly argued defense
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)
otm
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)
dude served his time. don't know why they even care. it should all get tossed out due to the horribly corrupt judge during the original trial imo.
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)
When did he serve his time?
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:41 (sixteen years ago)
look, at this point, i'm not sure dude should even serve any jail time or whatever. but don't try to defend him because he's "charming" or some bullshit.
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:43 (sixteen years ago)
he made some deal with the judge. the judge told him to serve a term at the psych ward, and if he pleaded guilty, they'd basically count that as his time served. he found out the judge was going to fuck him over so he fled.
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)
Oh, right. And I DID watch that documentary too.
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:47 (sixteen years ago)
dude made chinatown guys come on
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)
I'm not crazy about his peccadilloes, but on the legal facts this is BS.
― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:50 (sixteen years ago)
http://board.mdc2.org/albums/screens/Screenshot-The%20Associated%20Press:%20Swiss%20arrest%20Polanski%20on%20US%20request%20in%20sex%20case%20-%20Chromium.png
― am0n, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:51 (sixteen years ago)
wtf
― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)
― am0n, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)
lol AP
― am0n, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)
:-)))
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)
Fuck this guy. I am trading him off of my team in Madden as soon as I get home.
― Cousin Larry Soetoro (jeff), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)
He is OFF the team.
SHAME ON THE SWISS
― am0n, Sunday, 27 September 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)
"But it still seems utterly ridiculous to me for America to still claim his head on a platter."
He drugged and raped a girl. Apparently this wasn't the only incident. It's in a way ridiculous to still go after him but then a crime is a crime. If it were my daughter I'd probably have lynched him 29 years ago.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Sunday, 27 September 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)
He drugged and raped a girl. Apparently this wasn't the only incident
BUT HE MADE CHINATWON
― Super Cub, Sunday, 27 September 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)
yeah I mean I like his movies too but what he did was against the law and he should serve some legal penalty for it.
it's pretty weird that Angelica Houston was there and was like, 'well she wasn't really like a 13 year old, she was like a 25 year old' ok cmon lady.
― akm, Sunday, 27 September 2009 19:30 (sixteen years ago)
But I mean hey, it's been THREE DECADES.
the only reason it's been three decades is because he ran away. i think the main thing it illustrates is that becoming a fugitive is generally a bad idea. legal systems don't forgive and forget. what sentence was he looking at then? i think he'd have been better off to have served it.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)
i can't understand what joan z. shore is whining about. not like the swiss gov't had any choice anyway.
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)
more like joan z. sure is stupid
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)
some of y'all are cap'n save a pedo
― a light salad of Adorno, Heidegger, Derrida and Esteban Buttez (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)
New cap'n save a pedo legislation.
― bamcquern, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)
it's not his fault a 13-yr-old seduced him
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)
Anjelica Houston is a nonce.
― bamcquern, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)
i love how that huffington poster's indictment of the swiss is: laundering nazi gold, denying women the vote, serving a warrant on a statutory rapist.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)
what sentence was he looking at then? i think he'd have been better off to have served it
According to BBC website:
"He was initially indicted on six counts and faced up to life in prison."
Not entirely surprised he skipped the country on that basis, but as you say the justice system has a long memory.
― Bill A, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)
dude should have resurrected his drag look from The Tenant to escape detection
http://www.pop-pervert.com/files/men_as_women-06.jpg
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:19 (sixteen years ago)
if the americans wanted to arrest him,they could have done it many times on the past decades.Polanski didnt hide while being all over the world.thats why the swiss are weird about it. my guess is that this arrest story will end as fast as it begun,cause right or wrong - no one seems to give a fuck about that case.
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)
i don't honestly care either way but i thought the us had tried a couple times and failed because he didn't show up where he was supposed to?
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:34 (sixteen years ago)
"but on the legal facts this is BS"
Whuh?
"what sentence was he looking at then?"
It wasn't entirely clear. Originally the plea bargain called for it to be something ridiculous like probation plus some community service and like six months in a minimum security prison. The judge decided at the last moment that this was crazy for the (anal) rape of a 13 year old and began to try to figure out a harsher (but presumably not anywhere close to life) sentence and then Polanski decided he'd had enough and ran away.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)
and france has a different extradition agreement from switzerland so they had to know he was leaving france ahead of time. it's not so easy for the us to set up the arrest + extradition that they could have just done it. i don't know. xpost
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)
"if the americans wanted to arrest him,they could have done it many times on the past decades."
They could have? I wasn't aware he'd entered into any country that had extradition treaties with the US.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)
I always thought Jack Nicholson deserved some measure of opprobrium for knowing Polanski would use his house for pedo fun. What can you say, Jack? It was the seventies.
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)
it's not like catching bin laden...you gotta give the u.s. more credit than just waiting passively for him to show up where he suppose to other than actively go and take him by force. plus,theres a thing called the interpol, which was never used.conclusion: the u.s. don't care.
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)
i haven't researched it but i don't believe they could have showed up and just taken him. it's also a state case. the DA had to ask the us justice dept to make the warrant, which was sent to switzerland to use their extradition treaty. so there's 3 separate governments involved.
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)
"The girl was just a few weeks short of her 14th birthday, which was the age of consent in California."
Pretty sure it was 18 even then.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)
but on the legal facts this is BS.
― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius)
not a juris doctor iirc
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:44 (sixteen years ago)
"he'd entered into any country that had extradition treaties with the US"
he was, for example, in Israel.
― Zeno, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:45 (sixteen years ago)
I don't buy any of the arguments that Polanski doesn't deserve anything he gets at this point. This was a pretty despicable crime (he DRUGGED and then ANALLY RAPED a minor fer crying out loud) and the fact that he's a famous great director and seventy-six years old and once in Israel doesn't mean he should walk away scot free. So whatever happened that resulted in this, good on the Swiss.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:46 (sixteen years ago)
^otm
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:48 (sixteen years ago)