Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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"Then we lost James Beattie from Southampton."

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark Ward, people!

Shame Hansen didn't interview him last night on that show about ex pros.

'What are yooo doing now Mark?
'Running a multi-million crack cocaine ring in Bootle.'
'Oh.'

Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot about that programme. Poor footballers.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The end credits were the best part, with Hanson striding enigmatically down the Anfield turf.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Good luck to Liverpool FC and both their supporters for a tremendous achievement.

(I think Milan will win 4-0.)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 07:43 (twenty-one years ago)

They only have two supporters? I thought they were a Big Club? I'll be supporting them vigorously tonight.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah but spare a thought for the Liverpool fans who had to put up with so many of us (inc. the media) writing off their team against Juve and Chelsea, only to wish them all the best for tonight. I'd be annoyed as hell about that if I was a Red!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Overall, I think both clubs have reason to be pleased with their repsective seasons.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 26 May 2005 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)

They did it for Dioufy.

Masked Gazza, Thursday, 26 May 2005 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)

repsective? respective.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 26 May 2005 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Igor has been "released". :(

Meanwhile, in 'just a bit of fun' news: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149058050609-0855.htm

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Grobelaar should sue.

Meanwhile it looks as if they're gonna be allowed to defend the trophy after all, somehow. Anyone unhappy about this can at least console themselves with the inevitability of them crashing out against Benfica in the second round.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Could you expand on that, Steve? What's the latest trophy-defending news?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Spoke to my dad about the whole, miserable affair for the first time last night. He felt sorry for the Liverpool fans at halftime - to go all that way, spend all that money - "That stadium's in the desert, y'know - about 30 miles from town. There's nothing there." I loved the fact that it was the paucity of local amenities that piqued his concern for their plight at watching their team get stuffed. "I wanted them to get something out of the second half. But not that." "It's taken the shine off our season, hasn't it, Dad?" "Er...yeah. Yeah, it has really." He sounded so sad. "I couldn't watch the homecoming rubbish on the telly. The [Daily] Post has been full of nothing but for weeks. I'm sick of it."

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the latest trophy-defending news?

The decision is made tomorrow apparently but papers seem very optimistic.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

You should tell him about your earhole.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Liverpool should've been allowed to defend the UEFA Cup in 2001-02 instead of playing in the Champions' League. Houll only wasted that extra cash, didn't he?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Igor has been "released". :(

Source?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the day:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4613695.stm

Will UEFA harsh Cabbage's buzz?

I'm looking forward to a Liverpool-Everton final next year, to be played in Wrexham as a special treat.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 10 June 2005 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to see the shine taken off Liverpool's victory by a UEFA Cup place but, really, there is no dimming that shine. It's bloody everywhere, like the Gestapo shoving an anglepoise in your face.

May as well do the sensible thing and stick them in the group stage. Fenerbahce, as we've established, would only be demoted to where they 'should' be according to the coeff table. If it somehow hurts Liverpool financially to make them play three rounds of qualifying instead of some juicy preseason friendlies, then that might be funny. Presumably UEFA have some cunning plan in place for the rearrangement of the Super Cup final in that case. Like cancelling it altogether because who cares about the Super Cup?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It's official, Liverpool are in:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4613695.stm

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not fair! The Champions of Europe surely have the right to longer hols and a bit of a lie-in!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear. Less money for Everton (and the other English clubs) as a direct result of this. Perhaps the FA should compensate somehow?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Liverpool will also get no "country protection" which means if they progress through the qualifying stages they could face Everton or Manchester United - who enter at the third qualifying round.

!!!

are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Couldn't we call the group stage a round robin instead? That might convince me of its worth.

I am not particularly aware of the Liverpool shine. Does that make me a holocaust denial person?

There is a bloke in my Lenny Henry programme called Everton.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

They'll get some, but it won't be an equal share. It'd be funny if it turned out to be the same amount they would have got from UEFA Cup tv rights, and were having to cancel the money-spinning German and Japanese tours (the latter of which definitely has "let's sell shitrs in the Far East" written all over it) for the privelege.

It'll be interesting to see how many of The Greatest Fans In The World Ever turn out for a tie with NK Široki Brijeg (to pick a random side from this year's first qualifying round).

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The Greatest Fans In The World Ever

OI!

http://www.ntvcelticfanzine.com/images/revbhoyssevilledvd.jpg

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

A truly efficient team would combine their tour of the far east with a scouting trip to look for suitable factories to manufacture them. Players could be put into pairs and sent to industrial districts to check out what's on offer. To save arguments, they could stay in their room-sharing pairs.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Peter Stringbender is watching Chef!

why should Liverpool have been given any TV revenue at all? being in the Champs League is already plenty of reward, especially seeing as they didn't qualify. Everton really could have done without being forced to donate £5m to which they are fully entitled to Liverpool.

Lee F# (fsharp), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I am watching Chef, yes. I think it is quite good.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/4081094.stm

Hooray for Liverpool, I suppose.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

A truly efficient team would combine their tour of the far east with a scouting trip to look for suitable factories to manufacture them. Players could be put into pairs and sent to industrial districts to check out what's on offer. To save arguments, they could stay in their room-sharing pairs.

I believe this to be the 1000th post on this thread. Well done, Peter - it couldn't happen to a nicer fella.

There is no prize.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 10 June 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Relive the shine being taken off the Jonseys' season in digital clarity:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00081MWWA/ref=pd_nfy_hp_ts/026-0841495-4651641

I have been recommended this by Amazon. I thought it was only right to pass it on.

I am glad I was thousandth.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Sunday, 12 June 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

DVD Description
Featuring every goal from every game this season, highlights from the Carling Cup and extensive review of the Champions league, including footage from the spectacular match which contained every emotion for the watching millions, as AC Milan 's 3 - 0 half time lead was washed away in a tide of red!

I imagine the FA Cup may be glossed over a little though.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 12 June 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Featuring every goal from every game this season

I wish I worked in DVD authoring - I could hack it so it played Lee Carsley's goal in a loop behind the unskippable anti-piracy warning at the start.

Maybe this is the one for JtN. Or maybe it's a bit of rush job with faked Alan Parry commentary.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 13 June 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4088620.stm

"We won the big one but it is important we forget about that and move on and try to do better in the Premiership."

Forget about winning the European Cup and concentrate on finishing 4th instead of 5th in the league?

Steven Gerrard is a twat.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 13 June 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Does winning the Champions League not pay more than winning the Premiership? These people!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 13 June 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I bet Liverpool sell more DVDs than Chelsea.

I think Gerrard's approach is quite sensible, judging by that brief out of context quotation.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

What an unsatisfactory, depressing, hash of a compromise. If you're going to give Liverpool a spot, bung them in the group stages. Idiots. It'll backfire, mark my words.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Backfire for whom and in what sense?

"Backfire" for me obviously means them winning it again in 2006.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
Stevie G. to leave?

I have mixed feelings about this. The overwhelming one is "What a greedy blighter".

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 4 July 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

The timing seems rather perverse; if he'd gone 12 months ago few would have criticised him (his staying saw him elevated to saintly status; an old-fashioned pro with an admirable sense of loyalty to the club which made him) but now?

Meanwhile, Everton release Stubbs (the alternative was probably a gagging order on his speaking to the press) and are once again linked with Bellamy. Thanks but no thanks.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 4 July 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

A bit of honesty, at last.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Stevie (T) is correct. So is Steady M. The situation is ridiculous. If Gerrard wanted to stay, he could stay. The idea that £100k / week is not enough for his talent is barmy and offensive. Maybe he should have been dragooned into some sort of Make Poverty History event, and that might have given him another perspective.

I don't think I understand or credit the notion, the claim, that LFC are freezing him out.

Dumbest line of the week: "if they sell him, they can afford to buy Owen Hargreaves!"

the pinefox, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

If Gerrard's target is to win a league title or even repeat the Champions League success this season - as it should be, then leaving Liverpool perversely makes sense, as they just do not look likely to make a serious challenge for the Premiership, and chances of retaining the European Cup akin to chances of Greece retaining the European Championship (the problem with this argument being that intangible factors such as chance and probability were turned over in both cases - but would lightning strike twice in this respect?) - so Gerrard would've left Liverpool with or without a trophy in his bed it seems. Perverse I tells ya.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

i dont like gerrard much

marcus bent wants to face liverpool in the CL. are everton, really bent's EIGHTH club? i wonder if purchases in the immediate future, will send him on the way to his ninth

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Gerrard seems bent on harshing Cabbage's buzz.

What do footballers say now that they achieve financial security for life for themselves and their family in a week?

I really dislike Real Madrid, but I would go there for such a huge pay rise, I have to admit. Makes Chelsea look like a bunch of cheapskates.

The thing with Make Poverty History was it should have been Make Greed History all along. But that is a different story.

I don't like Bellamy.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

I reckon Stevie G's been wracked with guilt and self-loathing all these years as a closet Blue (he was a Goodison regular as a kid) and now, finally, having been instrumental in winning L'pool the Champs Lge, he simply has to leave or the mental turmoil will overwhelm him.

He'll finish his career at Everton, the occasional sub's appearance as an injury-ravaged and slightly overweight 33-y-o, a man finally at peace as the Bullens Road hurl good-natured obscenities his way.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Stevie Me, only 33 days ago:

"How can I think of leaving Liverpool after a night like this?"

Turned out not to be too hard after all.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's what he said, but did you see his eyes? They were creaming, "Christ, what have I done? Get me out of here."

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)


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