They're called black knights, not dark.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
its only a finn wound
― both HOOSlarious and truthful (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
african american knights
― a random googler, ripe for clowning (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyone know which writer starting using the term "Dark Knight Detective" to refer to Batman though? I have a feeling it came into wider use in the 70's sometime.
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, Neal Adams era. Not sure which writer though.
― chap, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link
If it was Neal Adams era, I guess it would have been Denny O'Neil. I was thinking it was later -- Englehart.
Internet says that the first usage was by Bill Finger in 1940, but I'm not sure about "wider use."
― Hugh Manatee (WmC), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Talking to my neighbor's 13 year old son today, he told me that Dane Cook is Christopher Nolan's choice to play the Joker in the next movie.
The fact that kids come up with these comic-bizarre casting rumors and spread them like the cold is something from childhood I had forgotten about.
― Cunga, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Heath Ledger died from cooties :-(
― fel (latebloomer), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
"Would you like to see how I got these scars? When I was little I kissed a girl."
― Cunga, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/nT3b8.jpg
― doomed... to fart (cankles), Monday, 11 January 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
haaaaaa
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Monday, 11 January 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 January 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
good thing he didnt have his golf clubs handy
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 January 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
oh that is so goddamned funny
― lazy cold meat and chocolate seasonal mentality (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link
that has made my fuckin' night
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Hahahahaaaa
― .81818181818181818181818181 changed everything (jjjusten), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Apparently this stunt was done immediately after Nicholson learned of Ledger's death, so the obvious contempt in his face has a rather different meaning than we'd take from it now. And yet...
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 January 2010 05:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, that photo was around a day or two after Ledger kicked it
― Kate Sinclair (sic), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link
uh that photo is a photoshop job, guys.
― sean gramophone, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 06:58 (fourteen years ago) link
more like ~you~ are a photoshop
― everybody's into weirdness right now (gbx), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link
more like
― everybody's into weirdness right now (gbx), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link
pssh. next thing you know he'll say santa isn't real.
― la última intimidad (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link
watched this at someones house recently. apart from ledger, its still really overrated. trying way too hard to be dark and takes itself far too seriously. also way too long (why do people think epic=mark of quality?). easily the most humorless of all the batman films. a good redress to what they did with the franchise before batman and robin etc so i understand the context but its just too far in the opposite direction. gotham still looks quite pedestrain compared to tim burtons gotham too. not sure how this type of indulgent/bloated 'serious' blockbuster (watchman etc) obsessed with being weighty and 'important' (rather than fun) ended up being so feted. trying to think of what the precedents were.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:22 (fourteen years ago) link
i suppose it being all heavy rather than fun is diff from the blockbuster norm but the heaviness just seems too contrived, its gravely aspirational heaviness.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link
As I've said before, there are plenty of moments in this that make me lol. And in Watchmen too.
― exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link
watchmen is pretty camp and entertaining, and it has lots of jokes
― jabba hands, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link
did like his new vehicles though.
the batmobile was>>>>
did lol at the trip to hong kong as it reminded me of the adam west series but not sure if that was a good lol or not.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought there was lots of good, character-based humour all the way through; plenty of lines from Caine, obviously, but also quite a few from bale. The meeting with Eckhardt & Gyllenhall in the restaurant is great.
― exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link
apart from ledger, its still really overrated. trying way too hard to be dark and takes itself far too seriously. also way too long
agree with all of that, but there were still some nice lols as nick says. still think watchmen was better (more consistent, funnier, looks better, more successful in what it was trying to do).
― Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link
top lol was bruce wayne "should i go to the hospital?"
― Isambard Kingdom Buñuel (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link
easily the most humorless of all the batman films.
um waht? the ledge was hilarious.
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i think that was on the understanding that ledger aside, maybe not
― Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm finding this really watchable on HBO in bits and pieces, though Bale's Batman voice (and Oldman's speech at the end) gets worse each time you hear it (starting to wonder if he made it intentionally absurd so they'd let him spend more time with the mask off - which he does). At this point I'd probably say its my favorite Batman film not just named Batman.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
The only thing overrated in that film is Ledger!!
― Radio Birdman Rally (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost - yeah the speech is a bit silly (and also lazy on nolans part - actually that was my other prob with the film, a lot of it seemed too expository). and batmans voice is preposterous but also gets a few lols. (well from me, but not the batman fans i saw it with).
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link
but as far as aspirational heaviness, I'll take it over all the Ra's Al Ghul ("My anger outweighs my guilt") talk of the last movie. Plus slimy Eric Roberts >>>> Tom Wilkinson declaring "you've never tasted desperate!" and Maggie Gyllenhaal >>>>>>>> Katie Holmes.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:06 (fourteen years ago) link
while i think ledger's performance is what keeps people connected to the movie as it bounces from set piece to set piece and melodramatic discussion to melodramatic discussion, I wonder how it would have been received if he hadn't died. It's engaging enough didn't really think about his passing much when I saw the film - only later did I think about what a shame it is that there's nothing to follow it, but (and i'm trying to find a way to say this without being in poor taste) the effect probably would have been diluted if Ledger was smiling at premieres and around to answer questions like "why is your character so awesome?"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link
eric roberts is hilarious and i wish he was in every movie, but in no universe is he better than tom wilkinson
― doomed... to fart (cankles), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
he is as a cartoon mobster
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Batman voice ...... gets worse each time you hear it
i had this, until someone on ilx just posited that bruce wayne doesn't want his voice to be recognisable in any way. makes it a lot easier to watch just to think that way about it.
― Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link
you'd think he'd want to be easily understood, though
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link
DOES HE THOUGH????
― Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link
makes ya think
can't be too hard to build a vocoder into that suit
― Player is killed, but they are resurrected, and the 45 Revolver glow gold (dyao), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
t-wayne
― Player is killed, but they are resurrected, and the 45 Revolver glow gold (dyao), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link
i think i underrated this movie at the time; on reflection, the set-pieces, at least early on, were simply better done than the cut-to-shred crap you get from most blockbusters. it is too long, though, and the final thing where batters taps into the matrix or whatever sucked.
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
the people in the boats should have blown themselves up, let's face it.
― Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link
wow totally did not even recognize Eric Roberts when I saw this
― larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:43 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i agree with this pretty much. the truck set piece was pretty awesome. the supersonic cell phone reality device and the dumb plot point about the ethical conflict it posed was ridiculous.
also the boat thing.
and it really does go on way too long.
but that IMAX stuff in the theater was like sheeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
― Who Makes the Na'vis? (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Batman Begins is better, it's a smart, slick action film that doesn't park itself in the middle of a convoluted moral maze from which it has no clue how to remove itself.
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link