I'd like to use Linux but...

I think the thing is everybody's realized you can in fact run redhat and still get "mission-critical" uptimes, so it's not oracle (app vendors don't give a shit what you run it on, it's all the $ame to them), it's the service providers/outsourcing businesses and their customers

and of course very little has actually changed in the last six years or so besides the volume of anecdotes out there supporting linux as a perfectly respectable business decision for a CIO

IMO

Ellison kinda does care, personal vendetta or no.

oracle cares for two reasons 1) they host their apps so they're in the service provider business, and 2) they're not in the os business so if linux support keeps their customers away from vendors with a competing enterprise rdbms (e.g. ms/ibm) all the better

but, yeah there are enough success stories out there that the risk is perceived to be low by trembling cios

I'm not a massive nerd.

thanx for that, pants

beat it kid, the nerdz are talking

richer than you lol

except tom he works for the gubbermint

Le ouch.

um

http://www.clearancejobs.com/security_clearance_jobs_salary_survey3.pdf

Wait why does desktop support require a security clearance?

because the desktops being supported may contain classified information?

why does an FBI cafeteria lady have to take a polygraph?

*plop*

God this is a tough room tonite pls tips in jar by piano.

dude you'd be making so much more in iraq

haw

tax-free too!

however stay-on bonus means you get to keep your arms and legs

RIMSHOT

Well this has been a disappointing thread.

fos, in my analyst work all I ever have to do is log in via putty and dick around with a few unix-CLI specific tools. I suspect the same for the vast majority of the world. if they want a redhat admin they'll advertise for a redhat admin. also remember you are always qualified for the job you want, I thought that was a duh.

the vst player i have my eye on (muse receptor) runs on linux, does using that count as being a linux user?

heh, I chalk up my linux credentials to the one time I had to boot a fedora box up and X11 broke, so I had to go in and diagnose and then edit the config with vi and fire it up manually in order to do something I probably could have accomplished with mv, cp and awk

in other words I think being a linux user means knowing how to solve most problems with the identical end results in at least three different ways

Oh yes, I think that's a problem with /etc/X11/xorg.conf! I know all about 'generic nvidia' Linux drivers too. Hell.

I am feeling pretty okay about this because I can comprehend everything that's being said on this thread. Thanks guys.

Oracle had one of its wet pushes on Linux a few years ago, yeah. It made all this noise about how the impending Red Hat db was rubbish and only Oracle on Oracle Linux was any good etc etc.

Ellison even went through a bizarre phase of clearing everything Microsoft out of the company. That lasted three months. I spent that entire time configuring all the internal apps (mostly Java) to work perfectly on Red Hat 8/9 and received NO FUCKING KUDOS FROM ANYONE.

Linux experience probably means being able to do all the unixy stuff like cron jobs, disk configuration and graceful shutdowns, but also understand package management and compiling the kernel. Or not.

"must have linux experience" = the guy who's job you're taking over solved some problem using magic smoke and a linux server. The MCP here is afraid to touch it.

wet pushes

this one's for you autumn almanac

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4281/tynan6in.gif

<3

Posting this from my new Eee PC. It is fscking fantastic.

Everyone needs one of these. Just awes. Thinner and lighter would be great though.

I am bidding for one on eBay now!

Thinner and lighter??

Yeah, the battery pack is annoying. Not a deal-breaker, just annoying. It's still less than a kilo.

okay i'm being unreasonable.

But ... How is the battery life? I've been looking at some of this microlaptops and they're quoting like 11 hours?????

Christ. This thing will get you 3.5.

Does it really? I've been hearing tell that practically it's more like 1.5-2

ugh I hope not. Seems all right so far, but I've hardly pushed it.

Yeah, I guess I'll stick with my five year-old PowerBook. With a $79 battery replacement I'm getting 3.5 (wireless on) and it runs Leopard. At least 3.5!

True, but the Eee is TINY. It fits in my funny little satchel thing.

is that what you call it

A gay friend calls it my fag bag.

Two PCs, ^ running Xandros, the other running Ubuntu. I still cannot believe how quickly and smoothly and efficiently and faultlessly and awesomely everything works.

Every time I go anywhere near Vista it does at least three unnecessary stupid annoying totally shit things every minute.