Uglier Than the Pat Tillman Statue

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I can sorta see the idea of portraying him in a footaball outfit, but why make his mouth gape and his hair flow like he's about to rock? Surely a more dignified expression would've been better.

Tuomas, FFS, this thread is called "uglier than the Pat Tillmans statue", don't you think everyone on here has already asked themselves those questions?

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

A simple GIS finds the picture that was used for photo reference.

Mercury News says:

Modeled after one of the better-known photos of Tillman, the statue features him in mid-stride, long hair flowing, helmet in one hand and mouthpiece in the other, and with his mouth open as if he's roaring. The sculpture's backdrop is a curved wall of black concrete that gives the memorial both an understated and reverential quality.

``I'm really pleased they decided to portray him that way,'' said Jim Kaskie, a Mesa man who also wore Tillman's No. 40 jersey. ``That's the way I'll always remember Pat.''

So, they made the statue so that people would recognise it. SEEMS KIND OF SENSIBLE.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/75/205101130_ab5f1c1f49_m.jpg http://static.flickr.com/91/205243740_01684548a5_m.jpg

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/76/205243741_03c518e343_m.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/61/205243736_c57b4bbec5_m.jpg

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link

If he was a war martyr, why on earth portray him playing football instead of something more, you know, dignified?

-- Tuomas (lixnix...), November 15th, 2006.

Here, I think, is the boundary of your understanding of American culture.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

So was he better known as a footballer than as a casualty of war?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

He is known as a casualty of war because he was known as a footballer.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

put it this way, if he hadn't initially been a famous footballer he would be about as well known as most casualtys of war. i.e. not very.

xpost exactly

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

casualties argh.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

More ugly statues less disingenuous Finns plz

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I have nothing to contribute, but thought I'd just say how much I'm enjoying this thread.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.connection.se/hem/anders/resor/lenin/bild/m.jpg

(So ugly is was chopped up then some idiot put it back together)

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Tuomas, I wasn't being sarcastic to you either, I just meant that the people who put up the statue would probably ask "What's more dignified than football?" My alma mater has a good football team for the first time in recent memory and people are acting like it's the second coming of Christ.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

turds in the plaza:
http://static.flickr.com/29/43333210_3a8f2be6eb.jpg?v=0

― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

If he was a war martyr, why on earth portray him playing football instead of something more, you know, dignified?

i believe said statue was erected by his former club and is outside their current stadium. that would be my guess as to why.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus that statue is based on a fairly well known picture of him rallying his teammates to capture Porkchop Hill.

― Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The flayed St. Bartholomew, carrying his skin over his shoulder

http://www.thereareplaces.com/guidebook/images/pagepix/ITmil/itmlnduoint.jpg

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Somerville, NJ's 9/11 monument - not so much ugly as conceptually creepy.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/21/SomervilleNJ.jpg/300px-SomervilleNJ.jpg

See, it's ALWAYS time to remember.

A friend of mine and I came up with the idea that every hour, on the hour, 24/7 it should broadcast loudly, to the entire town: "TIME TO REMEMBER. TIME TO REMEMBER" and then the the names of all of the 9/11 victims.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.roadtripamerica.com/roadside/Metaphor-The-Tree-of-Utah.jpg

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

tuomas: europe has art, and welfare and stuff. america has sports, money and jesus. take sides

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Because no one in Europe likes sports. No sir.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/75/205101130_ab5f1c1f49_m.jpg

They made a statue of the villians from the a-ha video?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, here's a little more information about the Forrest statue.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

That's amazing. Poetic, even. So the reason it looks like it was designed and built by a half-wit is because no decent sculptor in the world could be paid enough money to build a statue for THE GLORY OF THE FOUNDER OF THE KLU KLUX KLAN.

That really works. Let 'em keep it.

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, that statue wins the ugliness contest.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The flayed St. Bartholomew, carrying his skin over his shoulder

What about that is not incredibly awesome?

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha most of these statues are fucking awesome!

Even the Pat Tillman one would be weirdly cool if it wasn't for the fact that Pat Tillman's story makes you wish they hadn't made a statue for him at all.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/GG-ORG/imgs0204/Fireman%20Statue.JPG

Tribute to 9/11 firefighters. It used to scare the hell out of me at night - I have a fear of gasmasks.

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

It totally looks he's going to steal ET!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

It's one of those kind of statues that if you look at it out of the side of your eye on a dark night it seems to move....

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Why does Glasgow have a tribute to 9/11 firefighters?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Solidarity?

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

God yeah, I hate that thing, it's creepy.

I like the big clock on legs at the bus station though, and the big nappy pin where Rottenrow Maternity Hospital used to be. Can't find decent pictures though.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

(both done by the same guy, btw)

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, here we are:

http://www.art-public.com/member/img/wyllg001.jpg

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/6/7051816_72ad12eca9.jpg?v=0

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooh, I've not seen the nappy pin in the flesh yet. It's sweet.

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3764/2040/320/MVC-004S.7.jpg

If you look closely at the notebook in the hands of this woman outside the Barnes & Noble in Naperville, Ill., it reads "Naperville has grown big and fat." WTF.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

nappy pin in the flesh

hardcore

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Can't see yours Jay

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

My earliest memory is of my auntie accidentally jabbing me with a nappy pin while changing me.

My mum says I'm talking shite, I always wore disposables.

Maybe I've stolen someone elses memory. Or maybe my auntie just stabbed me for the hell of it.

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice use of the word "shite" there, in context :-D

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The Public Purse - daft statue in the Bourke st Mall in Melb:

http://www.airninja.com/pictures/melbourne/gigantic-purse.jpg

I suppose it is meant to be some commentary on consumerism, but people just sit on it and laugh at it.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh and of course the infamous scultpure The Vault, better known by all as "the yellow peril": so hated by Melbournians that it has been moved at least 3 or 4 times in its lifetime, usually to really out of the way places by the docks and such.

http://elsewhere.polydistortion.net/lib/cache/pics/melbourne/2002/01/15-the-yellow-peril.small.jpg

(heres a pic of where it used to live hidden in a crappy riverside park no one went to).

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Because no one in Europe likes sports. No sir.

just like america has no welfare or art, and europe also has no money and jesus. sounds like you got it.

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

that running clock is great

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the yellow peril!

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 16 November 2006 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Is the giant safety pin a Claes Oldenburg or just a knockoff?

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 16 November 2006 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

shameful knockoff.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 16 November 2006 03:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I'm not so much a hata of the yellow peril mself Jed :) I more thought of it because it seems so hated by everyone here.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 16 November 2006 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

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