― Leon the Fratboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 12 November 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
What is disturbing for me is a macro issue, that 'family values' is just diet feudalism and a feudal society is a retrograde step. I've been banging on at the New Feudalism for ages and now all the mainstream press here refers to ' bloodlines' when writing about nepotistic subjects, whether royalty, someone who's Isabella Rosselini's daughter or just from generations of Italian bakers. Feudalism entrenches class divisions and racial divisions on the basis of being part of 'the family' or not. Women are particularly subordinated or placed in 'power behing the throne' or if in power given 'queen bee' status.
Just think about it. Where is this GOING?
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 12 November 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Although I will point out that NY also has laws that require any insurance company who wants to issue policies in NY to cover ALL female reproductive issues, and not just pre- and post-natal care, so we might just be extraordinarily progressive. That being said, Arizona also requires doctors to provide full alternative information (including, of course, adoption information as well as abortion information and such). The law's ostensible intent is to protect OBGYNs who cannot perform the services due to lack of equipment et al but obviously also protects those who refuse to provide abortions for moral reasons.
xpost yeah that's basically what I'm implying, there are quite a few legal reasons why taking a script and neither filling it nor returning it to the patient is blatantly against the law and no amount of opt-out "Oh maybe the pharmacy doesn't have this medication" loophole laws can protect that.
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 12 November 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
I wonder if this is something someone could keep on hand, in case of emergency?
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Friday, 12 November 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost yeah, Suzy, that was an issue brought up in the article, or one of the ones posted, I believe, that a doctor or two initially refused to even return the script.
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link
* No problem here is a misnomer. I do have a problem with someone entering the health industry with a clear cut moral agenda against scientifically accepted procedures, as I really don't understand why someone would BECOME an OBGYN if they refuse to deal with any reproductive issues besides carried-out pregnancies and will not prescribe any preventative measures, but it's really not my job to tell people they shouldn't get involved in a profession if they have some kind of moral objection to major sections of what the profession involves.
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't have a problem with it when there is a drugstore on every corner .. Unfortunately, again, the argument leaves out poorer people in smaller cities, suburban or rural locations who may have to travel a fur piece to get to another pharmacy. And without owning a car and without public transportation available.
So for that reason, I'm against a pharmacist or doctor intervening in such a way.
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 12 November 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave q (listerine), Friday, 12 November 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 12 November 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 12 November 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, Planned Parenthoods generally have limited pharmacies located within them as well...again this doesn't really HELP women who are in areas with only a small number of pharmacies to choose from, where a Planned Parenthood might be hours away.
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 12 November 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 12 November 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 12 November 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link