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got bad cramp w/ 5 min left. i hate that! i always cramp coming down the long hill because i don't stand up straight.

harbl, Saturday, 19 September 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

Kinda drunk and I'm going running with my neighbour in six hours or something. It's gonna be hhoooorrribbbblllleeee. Shoot me now.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Saturday, 19 September 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

Long, tiring 8.77 miles today. I tried something different though, I took the bus downtown and then ran to the end of Northerly Island and back.

Jeff, Saturday, 19 September 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

i miss running

EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 20 September 2009 01:50 (sixteen years ago)

bashed my knee climbing today and now running hurts :(

holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Sunday, 20 September 2009 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

i ran this morning but it was kinda weird. i didn't have enough time to go as far as i wanted, and i had some shin soreness right after that was weird since i haven't had any shin soreness in at least a week. but now they feel ok and i'm wondering if it might have been some combination of wearing heels all day yesterday and running approx 30 min after getting out of bed today. anyway, i just did some gmaps pedometer and estimate i was at 6.5mph which is faster than i have been before (which is not actually fast, i know), so at least there's that. i think i might check into that nike thing though so i can get more accurate timings/distances than my guesswork.

tehresa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

maybe your shins were just a little tight and running losened them up.

plax (I know, right?), Sunday, 20 September 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)

I always have knee/foot pain after wearing heels, running or no running. Betcha it's that. I also tried to run this morning but it was uuuuuuggggghhhh slow. I think I need to eat a little and drink a glass of water first or something.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Sunday, 20 September 2009 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

yeah my best venture out last week was on my day off when i sat around, had some coffee, and woke up for 2 hours before i left the house to go run.

tehresa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 20:34 (sixteen years ago)

i'm telling myself to get up an hour early tomorrow and run in the morning instead of tonight...that didn't work the two times i planned it last week, but it has to start soon, when we change the clocks i'm not going to be able to get home in time to run before dark! do you guys have any tips on getting yourself out of bed in the first place?

Maria, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:12 (sixteen years ago)

yeah that is what i am seriously struggling with. i have never been a morning person but because it was cloudy yesterday, it was too dark to go out by the time i got home at 7:30. it will only get worse soon. then i run into issues like this morning where i have to cut it short because i hit snooze for an hour instead of getting up on time.

tehresa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)

i *am* a morning person and i can't do it either. i know it's possible because when i used to do sports i got up really early and didn't even need to eat first. but it had more to do with being made to do it than being good at waking up, so maybe run with someone else? tbh i prefer running alone though :(

harbl, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i used to do morning swim practice but i guess it was just bc it was bc that was when practice was. i like running alone. it is good for my head. and i don't think i am good enough to run with someone else yet! must figure out some way to trick myself into getting up.

tehresa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

take out the extra it was bc

tehresa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

it was just bc it was bc that was when practice was

^^^ lol

holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

u got flow

holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

first jog after nearly two months of knee tendonitis yesterday - did a mile real easy just to see how it felt - no particular ill effects today yay

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:31 (sixteen years ago)

^^ pretty much the same for me. took it easy cuz it's HOT out in la today but no trouble with my legs

velko, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

considering how much better I feel after a run, its kindof annoying how long it takes me to convince myself 2 go on 1 u no?

plax (I know, right?), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

this morning i felt like i did not hit my stride til the end, which sucked, bc by that point i didn't have enough time to keep going bc i had to go to work. gah. i have to get all this timing worked out.

tehresa, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:53 (sixteen years ago)

considering how much better I feel after a run, its kindof annoying how long it takes me to convince myself 2 go on 1 u no?

― plax (I know, right?), Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:52 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

i have this problem every day

steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

also this is how I feel about swimming

holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 20:31 (sixteen years ago)

fuck it it's gonna rain i'm going tomorrow :(

steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

4 runs in 3 days - one long one on Sunday, a short one yesterday, two hilly five milers today. So tempting to go and do another long one tomorrow cos my legs are starting to feel great, but really I should ease off a bit. Have entered a few races in the spring, really need to build up slowly and not go too nutty now.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

has this ever happened to anyone: i stopped running and was walking home (about a half mile) and my ears got all clogged like i was on an airplane. i could hear myself breathing but everything else was fuzzy. maybe it wasn't related to running at all haha

steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:39 (sixteen years ago)

So, my weight has finally come down to a threshold where I can enjoy running a couple of miles. Has anyone else read Christopher McDougall's Born to Run (on the ultramarathon running Tarahumara tribe of Mexico's Copper Canyon and the perils of athletic shoes)? The Daily Mail ran an extract in April and the story was picked up by New York Magazine, Time Magazine, and the New York Times.

I bought a pair of the Vibrams mentioned in some of the articles in July before they sold out due to the media attention, and like them a lot (though they distressed my sister to no end, she didn't want to be seen walking near me). As for running, heelless shoe do require a much different gait, but I only have sore skin on the balls of my feet (after a week), no bruises per se.

So has anyone found a good article detailing the counter argument in favor of Nike, Addidas, New Balance et al, responding to this?

Drove away his head. (Derelict), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

nope

holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)

but i know at least five people that are running barefoot on a regular basis, and really enjoying it

holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

oh weird, those shoes freak me out. esp since i was fitted for running shoes based on gait/pronation analysis and my shoes have added heel support! in fact, my right heel/achiles gets really sore if i am even just walking around wearing unsupportive shoes lately, so i'm terrified of the barefoot thing.

tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

would not run barefoot in baltimore

steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

Slept through my running window again this morning. Can't go in the afternoon, either, no free time before 8 or 9 PM today (yeah, I'm taking a 10 minute internet break right now, SO WHAT?) So depressing.

I think maybe the counterargument is just that regular running shoes do no, or at least very little, harm...?

Maria, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:03 (sixteen years ago)

dont think so. i think part of the argument for running barefoot is precisely the opposite: running shoes encourage an biomechanically "improper" gait that emphasizes heel-striking as opposed to landing on the balls or in a neutral position

holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:23 (sixteen years ago)

heel-striking shocks the system, so to speak, instead of taking advantage of the natural shock-absorption built into the arch and joints of yr foot

holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

iirc barefoot running reduces stress on the ankles and feet but shoes can help w/stress if u r overweight or have a poor gait naturally? i read a bunch about this 3/4 years ago since in ca it seemed vaguely feasible to do this and ive always had trouble with running shoes but at the time most of the studies where cautious in declaring it better

also iirc nike has (had?) a line of running shoes meant to mimic running barefoot

as the hart pants after the water brooks even so my blashphemous soul (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

i believe it but at the same time i'm not in a hurry to run barefoot or buy barefoot-like shoes

steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)

i believe it too but im kind of a sucker for these stupid claims tbh i think the real counterargument is the first time u step on broken glass or w/e

as the hart pants after the water brooks even so my blashphemous soul (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

Can't you try out the style in regular shoes? If I've understood my hurried reading of some random articles, part of the change is leaning forward so that you fall onto the ball of your outstretched foot, rather than holding the body upright and back?

that stupid-ass cannibal pen-pal of yours (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

i made a similar new scientific discovery that high heels encourage a biomechanically improper gait but no one listened and the nyt didn't write an article about it either ˘\(o_º)/˘

steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

Laurel: I'm just returning to casual jogging after a hiatus of a decade, but from my experience this week, the real difference is taking shorter steps, and a faster gait. At no time does the knee ever reach its full extension. Its a bit of a light footed squat, by comparison to the running I tried over a decade ago (which killed my knees).

Drove away his head. (Derelict), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7mELaYQ-uI

^ this is quite a good little review of the FiveFingers thing

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

has this ever happened to anyone: i stopped running and was walking home (about a half mile) and my ears got all clogged like i was on an airplane. i could hear myself breathing but everything else was fuzzy. maybe it wasn't related to running at all haha

I used to get this after running all the damn time! Have no idea why, but it was very annoying. Always assumed it was some sort of weird snot thing. Haven't had it for ages though thank god.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 20:32 (sixteen years ago)

hey derelict, i think i just realized i am taking pretty short steps, too! and i have no knee pain :)

sometimes i walk better in a heel bc i have really high arches and flats, if not supportive enough, tend to really screw up my feet.

tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 21:54 (sixteen years ago)

I will OTM that all over the place.

that stupid-ass cannibal pen-pal of yours (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

maybe that's why i'm scared of the barefoot stuff. modern ladies flats are usually just slabs of nothing for the sole w/ a little fabric to cover your foot and they are really not conducive to foot health imo.

tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 22:04 (sixteen years ago)

nike free are their "barefoot ones"

bring back all banned legends (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 22:26 (sixteen years ago)

syringes

cozwn, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

the barefoot gait is pretty funny

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:16 (sixteen years ago)

i ran barefoot on treadmill so they could videotape/look at gait and it was weird.

tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

its not just toe striking its also ginger

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

do people ever sprint barefoot - doesnt look like itd be workable for intervals

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:20 (sixteen years ago)


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