― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh, I get drawn into things I don't really have much interest in all right. That's when I know I'm not enjoying ILX and should take a break. And I did say that as meta-threads go, this one was OK.
Maybe it was a bad idea. Sorry. As I said - it wasn't supposed to be an attack, and I really don't think I was that negative! I said I liked quite a few threads, and why. As I said, I really should do a comparison with the older list, but I was serious about my thumb hurting and I thought it was clear enough if you go back to the 2001 list that many of the things I do deprecate were not so prevalent then.
I don't expect people to change way they post or start threads. It would be ridiculous to ask them to do that just to please me. Paulhw asked how it had changed and that was just supposed to illustrate it a bit.
Carry on.
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)
The only thing I'm confused about is why he even answered the question. I clicked on the thread because I was intrigued by the amount of answers there were, what with the usual anti-nu-ilx suspects not having been around much lately. I'm only answering (non-answering actually) because I'm genuinely curious as to wtf roxy is getting pissed off with Dastoor about.
I'm with Jimmy the Mod.
(err xpost, see what he said for himself I suppose)
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
xp hooray return allyzay ps we're not pissed but we're the newcomers so obv we'd feel slighted
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)
unless you think that people won't like discussing things that you like? or if you don't like discussing things with the people here anymore?
― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)
Filler. OK.:(
FYI it is an amalgamation of zoological oddities and curiosities meant to broaden one's (and my own) awareness of biological diversity.
Hrmph!
― The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Roxy is right though, too. (which makes Ally wrong). He wasn't really answering the question, seeing as the question wasn't "why not give us your personal review of the New Answers page?".
― oops (Oops), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost I think a huge part of the problem discussing the "difference" between the old and the new has to do with people always assuming any perceived disrespect towards either side is directed towards the entirety of the group, which is never really the case. And I think that what Ken says in his last line is just about a good summary of it: whether or not the threads were better/worse/same in topic three years ago, there is no question that the people who post on the board changed. If you dislike discussing things with XYZ people within the new group, or you preferred the XYZ people of the old group who have disappeared (this is an inevitable phenomenon anyway, people get tired of things, not necessarily "driven away" as often claimed by people), then you will dislike the tone of the board. Not wanting to partake in certain things isn't necessarily a condemnation of the people involved or a judgement call of "good v. bad", it's just a statement that you don't want to partake in what is happening in that area.
You can, I suppose, compare it to the phenomenon of bars, to clear up my convolution here, right. You have your neighborhood bar. You have a set group of people in your neighborhood bar you are friends with. You might also have some people there you really dislike, but at any rate you're used to all of these people and you're used to the tone of this neighborhood joint. Now, suddenly, your neighborhood joint becomes a "hot spot" and there is an influx of people. Some of the original regulars are going to be offended on principal. Others are going to feel that the "tone" has changed, people play different songs on the jukebox or your beer runs out on draught more regularly or whatever, and have a hard time adjusting. Other people still enjoy the bartenders there and resolve to make new friends. Still more people stick with their original group, while still going to this neighborhood hot spot. It's not saying that any of the old group's responses are good or bad, or that any of the new people are good or bad for coming in. It's just a human response.
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)
I feel bad, though. There were a lot of frivolous snap judgements, like commenting on a Top 40 singles chart, or something.
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)
xxxpost
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)
Has the tone or style of conversation changed?
I mean, no, he didn't do a comparison but his replies to each thread indicated reasons why he felt the board had changed in some way, for him personally.
I'm not sure what constitutes a "longtime ILXor," because I am pretty sure several of the posters on this thread have been here for a long time now and would count as such?
xpost someone here has tiny little arms? Ugh, seriously, I can't handle that, I'm done.
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost, no prob alba.
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)
1) personal, unwarranted harrassment from a definite "longtime ILXor" (who seems gone though perhaps posting this will bring it)2) having fights with Tom over things I've posted to ILX and me throwing a regrettable stroppy fit and doing things like abolishing ILX from my computer, deleting my photo archive, etc to spite him.
So, to me, a longtime ILXor, the board has definitely changed, just as I have changed a lot, and because of both of those things (plus the two mentioned above) I use the board less now, but, hell, I'm like one of 10 people who doesn't seem to dislike Jon Williams, I'm certainly not going to dislike your average ILXor. For a while it was a bit bothersome to me, because I no longer felt I could use the board for the purposes I was originally using it for, but pretty soon I realized that was quite childish and I really didn't care very much and like the occasional distraction it might offer now.
xpost no, I am never going to defend the proposition that everything old is good, mookieproof, far from it, I am wholly in advocation of deleting the entire archive, truth be told.
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)
And your naked penis contribution is monumental!
― The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)
That is all from me. Goodnight, sleep tight, and for the record everyone on this thread is ok by me. *salute*
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)
ps N/alba/AllyzaySC/etc don't go!
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)
Whatever the public wants, ken.
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)
"Posting on the thread with a gun in my hand..."
*hides*
Good luck on yer papers.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)
i remember when people would argue and 'debate' in long paragraphs - that don't happen anymore and i suspect alot of that's due to the growth of the place, people don't want to get caught in the xposting.
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 30 July 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm confused.
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 31 July 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)
maybe someone could blank it out or something.
oh dear :/
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 31 July 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)