Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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I had forgotten about this match. What a poor result for Everton.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

and a poor result for the premiership, if a champions league representative can get beat 7-0 by a team thats already thrashed them this season

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:57 (twenty-one years ago)

to be fair, i think arsenal's thrashings of everton had more to do with *timing* than a gulf in quality (there *is* a gulf in quality, but it was made luck bigger because arsenal played everton at a time when they were in form, and everton were either low on confidence and resigned to a pummelling, or hungover from success).

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh for god's sake Liverpool played Arsenal on SUNDAY!

And didn't lose 7-0.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope this bodes well for arsenal next year

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ronan, are you arguing that the liverpool v everton debate should hinge on who performed better against arsenal?

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

as in, not just these 2 games, but the run of form arsenal have been in

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

No, just arguing that the hypothetical situation of Liverpool losing 7-0 last night to Arsenal is a bit ridiculous given Liverpool just played Arsenal 3 days ago!

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It's telling though - there's an implicit belief that Liverpool could NEVER lose 7-0, to anyone. Does anyone NOT feel that there is some sort of 'truth' to that?

― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

In fact when was the last time Liverpool lost by three goals? In any competition. Are Arsenal the first team to score 3 against them this season?

― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think we should be too hard on Mike for being ridiculous, he's obviously in a state of shock. He has immersed himself in work to ease the pain, otherwise he'd probably be joining in some more.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Liverpool lost 0:4 to ManU in 2003 (after Sami was daftly sent off in the 4th minute).

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think too much conclusion really can be drawn based on this one result alone.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

When Skies Are Grey described the rather tragic attempts at drumming up a singalong amongst the travelling Toffees last night ("You're not champions any more" and "4-0 and you're still not singing"); the match seemed to essentially be a non-contact pre-season kind of affair, and if we don't get stuck in against Arsenal in Rolls-Royce mode, things like this will happen. I've no doubt they could beat us in a multitude of circumstances with just about any permutation of their best 18-20 players, but, prior to this season, our matches have been very close (1-1 and 1-2 [Henry pen] last season; 2-1, 1-2 the season before).

I don't think Ronan read what I said above. Liverpool, playing like they have on occasion this season away from home, would've been thrashed out of sight last night too. Perhaps not by seven, unless we lent you Richard Wright. Clearly the second half on Sunday was one of Liverpool's better away league performances. But, as we now all know, Rafa's Reds only bother turning up when the opposition is of a certain class. Hence the irrefutable truth of the league table.

It's amazing how many people want to talk about the football with me today. I guess it's just like rubbernecking at a car crash; I've done it myself, unable to resist asking the Forest fan at Roche what he thought of the previous Saturday's 1-8 reverse vs ManYoo. "Fuck off" is what he thought of it.

Arsenal v Everton: 11-1.
Man U v Arsenal: 6-2.
Man U v Everton: 0-1.

Funny old game, eh?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 12 May 2005 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

(He's being quite perky, considering.)

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 May 2005 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

The League Mangers' League Association have taken sides:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/e/everton/4553807.stm

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Moyes deserves the award for being the funniest manager in the league, his comic timing is impeccable

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah he deserves it. Mourinho was so mouthy.

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Did anybody else read about former diminutive Everton psycho Mark Ward getting caught in a multi-million pound cocaine bust last week. Blimey!

― Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Moyes for England?

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Celtic shurely?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"Then we lost Wayne Rooney to Manchester United,"

hardly 'lost'

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"Then we lost James Beattie from Southampton."

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark Ward, people!

Shame Hansen didn't interview him last night on that show about ex pros.

'What are yooo doing now Mark?
'Running a multi-million crack cocaine ring in Bootle.'
'Oh.'

― Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot about that programme. Poor footballers.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The end credits were the best part, with Hanson striding enigmatically down the Anfield turf.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Good luck to Liverpool FC and both their supporters for a tremendous achievement.

(I think Milan will win 4-0.)

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 07:43 (twenty-one years ago)

They only have two supporters? I thought they were a Big Club? I'll be supporting them vigorously tonight.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah but spare a thought for the Liverpool fans who had to put up with so many of us (inc. the media) writing off their team against Juve and Chelsea, only to wish them all the best for tonight. I'd be annoyed as hell about that if I was a Red!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Overall, I think both clubs have reason to be pleased with their repsective seasons.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 26 May 2005 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)

They did it for Dioufy.

― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 26 May 2005 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)

repsective? respective.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 26 May 2005 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

Igor has been "released". :(

Meanwhile, in 'just a bit of fun' news: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149058050609-0855.htm

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Grobelaar should sue.

Meanwhile it looks as if they're gonna be allowed to defend the trophy after all, somehow. Anyone unhappy about this can at least console themselves with the inevitability of them crashing out against Benfica in the second round.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Could you expand on that, Steve? What's the latest trophy-defending news?

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Spoke to my dad about the whole, miserable affair for the first time last night. He felt sorry for the Liverpool fans at halftime - to go all that way, spend all that money - "That stadium's in the desert, y'know - about 30 miles from town. There's nothing there." I loved the fact that it was the paucity of local amenities that piqued his concern for their plight at watching their team get stuffed. "I wanted them to get something out of the second half. But not that." "It's taken the shine off our season, hasn't it, Dad?" "Er...yeah. Yeah, it has really." He sounded so sad. "I couldn't watch the homecoming rubbish on the telly. The [Daily] Post has been full of nothing but for weeks. I'm sick of it."

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the latest trophy-defending news?

The decision is made tomorrow apparently but papers seem very optimistic.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

You should tell him about your earhole.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Liverpool should've been allowed to defend the UEFA Cup in 2001-02 instead of playing in the Champions' League. Houll only wasted that extra cash, didn't he?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Igor has been "released". :(

Source?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the day:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4613695.stm

Will UEFA harsh Cabbage's buzz?

I'm looking forward to a Liverpool-Everton final next year, to be played in Wrexham as a special treat.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 10 June 2005 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to see the shine taken off Liverpool's victory by a UEFA Cup place but, really, there is no dimming that shine. It's bloody everywhere, like the Gestapo shoving an anglepoise in your face.

May as well do the sensible thing and stick them in the group stage. Fenerbahce, as we've established, would only be demoted to where they 'should' be according to the coeff table. If it somehow hurts Liverpool financially to make them play three rounds of qualifying instead of some juicy preseason friendlies, then that might be funny. Presumably UEFA have some cunning plan in place for the rearrangement of the Super Cup final in that case. Like cancelling it altogether because who cares about the Super Cup?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It's official, Liverpool are in:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4613695.stm

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not fair! The Champions of Europe surely have the right to longer hols and a bit of a lie-in!

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear. Less money for Everton (and the other English clubs) as a direct result of this. Perhaps the FA should compensate somehow?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Liverpool will also get no "country protection" which means if they progress through the qualifying stages they could face Everton or Manchester United - who enter at the third qualifying round.

!!!

are you thinking what I'm thinking?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Couldn't we call the group stage a round robin instead? That might convince me of its worth.

I am not particularly aware of the Liverpool shine. Does that make me a holocaust denial person?

There is a bloke in my Lenny Henry programme called Everton.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

They'll get some, but it won't be an equal share. It'd be funny if it turned out to be the same amount they would have got from UEFA Cup tv rights, and were having to cancel the money-spinning German and Japanese tours (the latter of which definitely has "let's sell shitrs in the Far East" written all over it) for the privelege.

It'll be interesting to see how many of The Greatest Fans In The World Ever turn out for a tie with NK Široki Brijeg (to pick a random side from this year's first qualifying round).

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The Greatest Fans In The World Ever

OI!

http://www.ntvcelticfanzine.com/images/revbhoyssevilledvd.jpg

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

A truly efficient team would combine their tour of the far east with a scouting trip to look for suitable factories to manufacture them. Players could be put into pairs and sent to industrial districts to check out what's on offer. To save arguments, they could stay in their room-sharing pairs.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

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