The long overdue _Blade Runner

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on the character-actor front, blade runner features probably the best work of the late brion james.

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― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:54 (twenty years ago)

hi kenan fyi when i said you sounded like an ass i was referring not to your "alien" comment but to this: "I once broke up with a girl because she didn't understand the dove"

i mean, i know, comic exaggeration and all, but it's still comes from a pretty ass-y place.

― amateurist0, Monday, 17 April 2006 05:55 (twenty years ago)

xpost: in fact there's a whole bunch of people whose best movie is blade runner: sean young, edward james olmos, rutger hauer, william sanderson. daryl hannah? probably.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:57 (twenty years ago)

Ok, how about this -- I once broke up with a girl when I was 20 years old because we had a two-hour conversation about Blade Runner during which she made it abundantly clear to me that she was not as smart as I am, or indeed most people I knew at the time. This was not a long or significant relationship. Better?

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:00 (twenty years ago)

it's a line from this movie.

― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:01 (twenty years ago)

And also, seriously amst, coming from an assy place shouldn't bother you as much as you pretend.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:02 (twenty years ago)

kenan sometimes it's hard to believe that you're not putting us on, at least a little bit.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:13 (twenty years ago)

what?

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.launchcommit.com/images/65.jpg

― amateurist2, Monday, 17 April 2006 06:13 (twenty years ago)

why don't we start a thread about what a dick i am and keep the one and only Blade Runner thread pure and unsullied?

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:16 (twenty years ago)

ah, damnit... too late.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:16 (twenty years ago)

i used to say this was my favorite movie, now i watch it less and less often because it seems to get worse with repeat viewings. there's a fair amount of ham-fisted stuff in this movie. i guess as i get older, i find myself getting turned off of movies that are unnecessarily cruel to the characters. i used to think sebastien and clarice and chiu were lovely and poetic and now i get the same icky feelings watching them as i do when i watch spike jonze relentlessly abusing his characters in "being john malkovitch".

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:21 (twenty years ago)

then again, misanthropy has put me off of philip k dick's work for a long, long time now so i guess i shouldn't be surprised.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)

to the comment about this being the greatest sci-fi movie ever, i'd say probably not. i always think of bladerunner as connected to that moment in my life right after high school when i suddenly decided there was nothing better that film had to offer than film noir, westerns and japanese samurai movies. as you can probably guess, i thought girls were pretty confusing then. i feel like i've outgrown that and i guess outgrowing bladerunner is somehow connected.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:26 (twenty years ago)

anyway it's funny that kenan brought up "alien" upthread because i'd put it in the list of "sci fi movies better than bladerunner".

(in no particular order)

1. alien
2. john carpenter's "the thing"
3. la jetee
4. videodrome
5. the old "war of the worlds"
6. back to the future
7. terminator
8. close encounters of the third kind
9. total recall
10. clockwork orange
11. 2001
12. solaris

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:31 (twenty years ago)

13. dawn of the dead

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:32 (twenty years ago)

Alien is a horror movie.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:32 (twenty years ago)

14. robocop
15. buckaroo banzai
16. mad max
17. tron
18. the black hole
19. sleeper
20. alphaville

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:35 (twenty years ago)

ok anyway please don't come to me with this loser "buckaroo banzai isn't scifi it's a spoof" or "la jetee is an art movie" crap.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:35 (twenty years ago)

if you can make a good case for "alien isn't scifi it's horror", and you can do it in a way that i can't just turn around to say "blade runner isn't scifi it's film noir" then ... well, forget it, because you can't.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:37 (twenty years ago)

i always think of bladerunner as connected to that moment in my life right after high school when i suddenly decided there was nothing better that film had to offer than film noir, westerns and japanese samurai movies. as you can probably guess, i thought girls were pretty confusing then. i feel like i've outgrown that and i guess outgrowing bladerunner is somehow connected.

I think you just insulted eveyone who likes almost every movie ever, and also told them that they have small penises.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:40 (twenty years ago)

21. repo man

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:43 (twenty years ago)

xpost nah, that wasn't my intention. i just think caters to a particular strain of male film buff immaturity.

gear - yes!!

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:45 (twenty years ago)

22. starship troopers

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:46 (twenty years ago)

i expect a chorus of "no!" quickly ; (

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:46 (twenty years ago)

is there a verhoeven thread? i like "robocop" and "basic instinct" better.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:47 (twenty years ago)

i'd say bladerunner can get as hamfisted as starship troopers and it can be more embarassing, too.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:48 (twenty years ago)

like, rutger hauer releases a dove ... *GROAN*

doogie probes the brain beast ... *YAY*

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:48 (twenty years ago)

best time i ever had in a movie theater was a midnight screening of starship troopers at cornell university

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:51 (twenty years ago)

close encounters of the third kind is complete trash. it's the forrest gump of sci-fi. any two seconds of bladerunner shits all over it.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:54 (twenty years ago)

it's a fun movie but a little OTT. i was just thinking of it, when i saw "thank you for smoking", which was like "starship troopers" minus the fun.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:55 (twenty years ago)

including the two seconds where deckard has the dream about the unicorn?

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:55 (twenty years ago)

also what's wrong with forrest gump?

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:56 (twenty years ago)

i think i'm gonna rent back to the future though.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:56 (twenty years ago)

"it's the forrest gump of sci-fi."

no thats contact

― latebloomer's jazz oddysey brought to you by kellog's corn flakes (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:56 (twenty years ago)

are you one of those people who hates spielberg just because? isn't that kind of like hating on starbucks and midwest?

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:57 (twenty years ago)

well starship troopers is a satire!

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:57 (twenty years ago)

etc etc etc

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:57 (twenty years ago)

yeah, an OTT satire.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:58 (twenty years ago)

are you one of those people who hates spielberg just because? isn't that kind of like hating on starbucks and midwest?

-- vahid (vfoz...), April 17th, 2006.

no no!

― latebloomer's jazz oddysey brought to you by kellog's corn flakes (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:59 (twenty years ago)

how can you say "two seconds of bladerunner shits all over" forrest gump? is "feel-bad shtick" any better than "feel-good shtick".

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:59 (twenty years ago)

as a friend outlined for me so succinctly re: forrest gump

1. romanticizing stupidity
2. trivializing history
3. too much bullshit

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:59 (twenty years ago)

sounds like ilx

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:00 (twenty years ago)

;-)

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:00 (twenty years ago)

yeah and 1 + 3 are certainly applicable to bladerunner.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:00 (twenty years ago)

#2 is not really a bad thing is it? i mean, it's good when certain people do it but bad when spielberg does it?

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:01 (twenty years ago)

like you could say #1 + #2 about "bridge on the river kwai" but that doesn't make it a bad movie.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:02 (twenty years ago)

how can you say "two seconds of bladerunner shits all over" forrest gump? is "feel-bad shtick" any better than "feel-good shtick".

-- vahid (vfoz...)

dude, blade runner isn't "feel bad schtick"! that would be Alien 3 or Seven or anything Fincher's done.

I think you're seeing the movie through its importance to you as an adolescent and not how it actually is.

― latebloomer's jazz oddysey brought to you by kellog's corn flakes (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:03 (twenty years ago)

how it actually is = rather adolescent, like everything else attached to philip k dick

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:03 (twenty years ago)

sure, but thats 99.999999999999999999% of all science fiction!

― latebloomer's jazz oddysey brought to you by kellog's corn flakes (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:04 (twenty years ago)

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The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread