WTF?: "Seinfeld"'s Michael 'Kramer' Richards in Weird-o-Rama Onstage Meltdown

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NEW YORK — Kelly Ripa's definitely not a Claymate.

The talk show host went off on Aiken Monday morning on "Live With Regis and Kelly," saying "I don't think he was respectful in any way." She said Aiken was hostile toward her when they shared co-hosting duties on Friday's show.

She especially took issue with Aiken putting his hands over her mouth during an interview. She said you don't do that, even if it's for a laugh.

Ripa told Clay his actions were a "no, no," adding "I don't know where that hand's been, honey."

Regis Philbin said he's shocked the pair didn't hit it off, saying, "In my wildest dreams would I ever think that one day you would have a feud with Clay Aiken."

On The View" Tuesday, Rosie O'Donnell said Ripa's remark about Aiken's hand was homophobic. Aiken has been dogged by speculation about his sexuality but he's never answered.

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Both Kelly Ripa and Clay Aiken deserve to be thrown in wells.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter Pop You To The Extreme (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

so my people can be free

― anticon jemima (ooo), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.defamer.com/topic/clay-aiken.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Thom Yorke too

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ramblestrip.com/clay_im.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

That girl looks like she been punched in the back of the head one too many times.

xpost scott no

― Allyzay Eisenschefter Pop You To The Extreme (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://s129178457.onlinehome.us/celebritieseating/uploaded_images/77-791852.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

sorry! gotta run!

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

ever talk to a convicted murderer? they always have excuses and reasons and context too. they don't want to be judged and labeled on their one mistake either.

Wow, so you basically think that people who kill out of self-defense are the same as, say, Ted Bundy? I mean, there's context. That can go either way: speak in defense of the person who killed or against him/her.

I think it's hilarious Kelly said:"I don't know where his hand's been." Certainly not homophobic, just extremely silly.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

btw, the LA Jewish Journal points out: NOT A JEW!

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=16838

ralph nader's still the bigger asshole, though.

jorel channelling gabbneb?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Paul Rodriguez was on the news this morning in a taped interview outside the comedy club going "its really sad to have a Jew making these kinds of commenst so soon after what Mel Gibson said about his people" (paraphrasing)

roffles.

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

There's something extremely saddening about the quote "I’m not a racist, but it comes through."

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

the history of Freemasonry and slavery is too intertwined for him ignore
W. T. F.!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Hall

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

jorel channelling gabbneb?

-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), November 21st, 2006 9:08 PM. (Dr Morbius) (later)

no, channelling everyone who would like to punch him (and by extension, you) for giving us 8 years of dubya. thanks, dick.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

but of course we've covered that in other threads. back to the racism!

(i liked this thread better when it was about rodeo, hockey and football)

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

all thanks to the Dems and their dickless strawman candidates. (I still vote in New York where prez votes are literally meaningless)

I still think a crowd that came to see Paul Rodriguez is selectively offended.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

lets be fair theres plenty of other reasons people want to punch dr morbius

― anticon jemima (ooo), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

xposty: sterling, read that article again

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

I still maintain that you're a little wee bit of a liberal-guilt racist but you don't see ME posting it three times to this thread. xpost.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter Pop You To The Extreme (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

any idea what that means? didn't think so.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, so you basically think that people who kill out of self-defense are the same as, say, Ted Bundy? I mean, there's context.

belaboring the point, but people who legitimately kill in self-defense are often not convicted of murder. "convicted murderer" is someone who, whatever their claims of context or extenuating circumstances, has been judged guilty of murder.

anyway, in this case, there's no contextual basis for saying richards is not a racist. i'm sorry if it pains people to call people who give racist rants "racist," but for the word to have any meaning i think we probably have to.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

xpost
i'm just saying the matter is quite a bit more complicated, & as i recall, segregated or not (and they never all were) freemason lodges tended to land on the side of abolitionism.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

what are masons even about anymore? i figured it was about as illuminati as being in the kiwanis or some shit

― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Adversary to thread.

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.defamer.com/topic/clay-aiken.jpg
LOL BEN LINUS IS A FREAK

― stoked for the madness (nickalicious), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

xposty: right, but scrolling back through masonry's "rich heritage" we certainly have masonic slave-owners. A recent zealot mason like Richards would probably be aware of the entire history enough to cop a superior attitude, like "we freed the slaves, you know." That whole bit where Richards says the key to masonry is "know thyself" seems fairly ironic as it's clear he either doesn't know shit or is up to creepy shenanigans wrt race relations.

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

if you go on a tour of the grand hall in philly by city hall you get to see george washington's masonic apron. i highly recommend it. it's an amazing building. like, awesome.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.knitemare.org/cats/270907182_ef25ba42de.jpg
^^this thread

― Allyzay Eisenschefter Pop You To The Extreme (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/02E1C582-9A91-4390-AB23-1D5F4F3C4738/0/dont_improvise_697x984.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/1C575266-2BBD-49DA-B88E-0E925AB01A46/0/dont_let_routine_696x984.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/C2FB0FC2-670B-4CFD-B6C9-F22402F35E6C/0/personal_problems_695x984.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

ok, that first one is a bit odd

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

more anti-jazz proopaganda!

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

the first one looks like michael richards with a moustache.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Brokeback Mountain reference, innit?

― Through a twenty deep screen of humourists (noodle vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.geology.iastate.edu/ams/images/school_poster_winner_3.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.wolfenews.com/images/BestSlo.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny how one of the most contentious threads in recent ILx history has the phrase "Weird-o-Rama" in the title.

― nate p. (natepatrin), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

Basic Instrcutions Before Leaving Earth

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.fototime.com/B50DBF51B29E940/orig.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

Just as it is important to look behind the mask of a comedian like Red Skelton and to see the heart of a great man, Richards says of Masonry, "We must look behind the symbols to see the heart of their meaning. What does a symbol stand for? How do I translate that idea into my life?"

Like Jacques Cousteau diving in the sea, Richards says, "Masons must search the deepest parts of themselves, within any organization, to discover the uniqueness of their life unfolding."

Richards is not alone in his convictions. Past Grand Master Jack Levitt recently wrote: "Freemasonry's truths are covered with symbolism and its insights with allegory. It is necessary to look behind the fact to see the truth and beyond the symbol to see the reality."

And as Richards would say, the reality is you. "A Freemason is a man building up himself, coming into his own to highlight the individual that he is," he says.

When I ask Richards what symbol in Freemasonry strikes him as being especially important, he says, "When you go into our Lodge, on the back of the Tiler's chair are the words 'Know Thyself.' That's important. That is the ultimate message to all Freemasons; to truly know who you are."

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

"As Cosmo Kramer in "Seinfeld," Richards played one on TV. But he himself is not Jewish -- not that there's anything wrong with that."

"The real Kramer is indeed of Jewish heritage -- not that there's anything wrong with that."

Weird.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

two way late thoughts:

1) why couldn't "cracker" be as bad as the n-bomb? i mean, right, it's not referring to a history of rape, murder, subjugation--it's just referring to a history of raping, murdering, and subjugating. i mean "you're a subhuman" vs. "you're a cancer on the planet." how are these not reciprocal versions of the same fuck you? how does the latter not claim the indisputably higher "you're morally worthless" ground?

2) if only blacks get to use the n-word, perhaps only blacks should have the right to officially damn white users thereof?

― literalisp (literalisp), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

Weird.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

No wait it isn't weird. You are just an idiot.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

racist.

― literalisp (literalisp), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

Eggzactly!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny how one of the most contentious threads in recent ILx history has the phrase "Weird-o-Rama" in the title.

Not to be contentious, but something like the Kill Bill thread was way worse in the argument department. This thread was quiet meditation comparatively.

xpost Though I could be proven wrong yet.

― Noilly Prat (kenan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

Idiot Like Me

― literalisp (literalisp), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

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