― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Bernard the Butler (Lynskey), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― the bluefox, Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― John Cocktolstoy, Thursday, 20 January 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 January 2005 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Friday, 21 January 2005 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)
Is Century of the Self available anywhere? I only saw the first ep.
― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ark Hopping (avoid80), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ark Hopping (avoid80), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)
Adam Curtis on Cannes and "Last Days
― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)
I still feel that Curtis didn't spend enough time talking about who benefits from these official nightmares, and how.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)
Music
* Title theme: "The Big Ship" on Another Green World by Brian Eno * Incidental: "Becalmed" and "In Dark Trees" on Another Green World by Brian Eno * Incidental: Soundtrack from "Citizen Kane", film score by Bernard Herrmann, 1941. * Incidental: Soundtrack from "The Ipcress File", by John Barry * Incidental: Soundtrack from "Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion", by Ennio Morricone * Part 1 credits: "Baby, It's Cold Outside" by Margaret Whiting and Johnny Mercer * Part 2 opening: "Also Sprach Zarathustra" * "I've Got Spurs That Jingle Jangle Jingle" (possibly by Singer-Gene Autry; Music-Joseph Lilley;Lyrics-Ranke Loesser, c1942) * Afghan war: "Colours" by Donovan * Part 3 credits: "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head" by B.J. Thomas
― I Named Veal (nordicskilla), Thursday, 7 July 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)
Living in no TV land, I have never seen it.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)
― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)
i haveta say, the 'AQ doesn't exist' line looks a bit thin now. i was never sure why leo strauss was such a big figure in the show. is he more important than, i dunno, hayek or milton friedman?
― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)
or
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050620&s=bergen
― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)
It still amazed me about Kissinger, how rational and beacon-like he was presented as being, but then I don't know that much about him and so the 'convenience' of this series results in one wanting it to consist of twelve hour-long parts or something.
Neocon motto: "Occam's Razor is booooolsheeeet, plus Occam sounds suspiciously Arabic"
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)
― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)
"In fact, the Islamist terrorist threat to the United States today largely emanates from Europe, not from domestic sleeper cells or, as is popularly imagined, the graduates of Middle Eastern madrasas, functional idiots who can do little more than read the Koran. Reid is British, Al Qaeda member Zacarias Moussaoui is French and the 9/11 pilots became militant in Hamburg. The attacks in Madrid last year that killed 191, and the assassination of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh, demonstrate that men animated by Al Qaeda's worldview have recently conducted significant acts of terrorism in Europe, a trend that is likely to accelerate as continued heavy Muslim immigration into Europe collides with widespread racism to create a population of alienated Muslims who often feel that no matter how much money they make, or how long their families have been in the country, as Pakistanis in London they are never quite British, or as Algerians in Paris they are not quite French, or as Moroccans in Madrid they can never be really Spanish. These are not powerful nightmares; they are a reality, a view that Curtis may finally come around to when a significant terrorist attack is carried out in London, which British authorities regard as inevitable."
― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)
maybe but with so much to condense into under 3 hours there's only so much you can mention, and considering how contrived Qubt's and Strauss's ideas were or rather how badly they were put into practice...
I should hold off until I see the final episode though clearly.
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)
Why does this thesis now look thinner than it did before? Because bombings have happened on British soil?
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)
alba -- yeah, because the attacks have continued. also, i've never really seen AQ presented as a command-and-control organization like the IRA. but cell-like structures are hardly unusual -- FLN and the french resistance both had them. so does the cia, in some ways -- agents don't know other agents. there's no contradiction between being pyramidal (which AQ is -- money comes from somewhere!) and cell-like.
― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)
The third episode again repeats a lot of what's gone before, steve. But at the end, it has interesting stuff about Blair et al. being obsessed with the verdict of history, in the sense of being neurotic about not having dealt with something (ie. Islamist terrorism) that later is shown to engulf our society. An obsession with the worst case scenario. Fear of getting it wrong isn't a motor of confident and successful leadership.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)
What's wrong with repeating things? Have you investigated al Qaeda at first hand yourself? No - you are repeating other things (that it is "cell-like" etc.) And that's fine.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)
alba -- yeah, i can see that but there are links between the cells, example: funding, and training camps. 'follow the money' and that.
― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
I'm ever so hungry.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)
xpost
― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)
― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)
But overall, as a society, we didn't. Not enough to do anything about it. And I'm thinking about how eugenics was such a respectable and popular notion among intellectuals etc.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)
Really? Most of the literary intelligentsia seem to have been pretty much on the Right.
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)
really? orwell, connolly, isherwood, auden, day lewis, spender, fucking leavis, greene, green, the left book club...?
― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)
Just a little humour there, to lighten our load.
Prospect is £4.50! Is the rest of it any good? Last time I got it it was Billy Bragg and Gordon Brown talking about Britishness. I thought it poor.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)
― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)