"best before date"

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When my grandmother has a clear-out in about 1993, we discovered many interesting things in the cupboards and on the kitchen shelves, including some 'glucose powder' that was best before 1950-something and a tin of Princes prawns that had no date but was proudly marked 'Empire Produce'. I wanted to open it but lost my nerve.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I threw out some kidney beans from 1996 recently. Not really comparable, but my mother still had some cans of Vim under her sink until recently that had a yellow flash at the top with "2d off" on it. so they must have been pre-1971.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:09 (twenty-three years ago)

My mother nearly always fed me things past their best-before date. The record was a tin of rice pudding which was 7 years past its date and going rusty; we ate it anyway and were fine.

The *real* record probably belongs to things she's had in her cupboards before best-before dates were introduced. She's still using a big sack of cornflour which she inherited from her own mother, who died in 1983. Until the mid-90s we used a bottle of brown sauce whose price ended in a halfpenny; we didn't finish the bottle until about 10 years after halfpennies disappeared.

(she is also the sort of person who, if things like jam or cheese start to go mouldy, will calmly scrape the mouldy bits off and eat it anyway)

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:11 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, I thought this thread was going to be about There's Something About Mary

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Would it be fair to say that with things like milk and salad, the best-before date is an accurate measure of when the food should be eaten by. Most ppl have experienced milk and salad going off prior to their best-before date at some point in their lives and they can usually have a fair bet on why it's happened (unusually hot weather, faulty fridge, left out of fridge too long ect ect).

With canned food tho, the manufacturers err on the side of caution big-time and there are prolly few canned foods that can't be eaten several years after their sell-by date perfectly safely. I say few - I'd imagine condensed milk is one I *wouldn't* risk.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Would canned fruit begin to ferment after several years?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

a bit of a spency way to make punch!

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

"spency"?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)

As in 'something Spencer from BB3 might do'.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)

expensive, is that not ILx slang? Must've picked it up someplace else.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Tesco's? I think that word's gone off

I've got a can of emergency drinking water from the U.S. Army; when I shake it it sounds like something's inside besides water - I can't open it though, despite my curiousity, since karma would dictate a total and complete water shortage hitting the city the exact moment I did so

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

oh i just remembered we were on holiday at a friend's house in wales in late 2001 and we had left the bacon behind and dad NEEDS MEAT WITH EVERY MEAL (this is sort of a genuine medical protein requirement, in respect of his parkinsons' disease: probbly there are substitutes but there weren't any in our actual shopping at that time)

anyway there were a few left-behind tins in the pantry, including some fray bentos corned beef: which had been canned in zimbabwe, was attested taint-free courtesy a stamp from "meat-inspection station #7", and had a "best of" date of — that magic year! — 1996

to his credit, in respect of war on all cultural chauvinism, dad wz fairly gung ho abt trying it, but we persuaded him to wait till i had gone out to buy bacon instead

as it wz not our tin to throw away, we left it in the cupboard

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I've just been to Tesco and there was bread on the shelf that was bearded with mould. But the sticker said it was good for another two days. Curious.

Lara (Lara), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)

it was bread from the Bluecoat School.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)

That sort of thing is rife with organic lemons too, sadly.

Hello Lara!

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a bottle of vintage "Champagne Taittinger Collection" that says it's from 1982! I should probably toss that out.

Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll 'dispose' of it for you.

Lara (Lara), Saturday, 25 January 2003 19:02 (twenty-three years ago)

My poor champagne could fill only a tiny fraction of your shoe collection, I'm afraid.

Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 25 January 2003 19:14 (twenty-three years ago)

While we're on this topic, can somebody British parse for me the term "Best Before End" that you all use over there? I always read it as "Best Before The End," which, well, isn't everything?

Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 25 January 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

It means 'Best Before the end of' and it followed by a month and year. So, for example, 'Best Before the end of March 2521'

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 25 January 2003 20:08 (twenty-three years ago)

"the end of the month" -- brilliant! Thanks N. Though on reflection this must mean that UK rubbish tips overflow on a periodic basis as everything expires in unison on the 31st and is tossed.

Here in the States, our perishables tend to expire on any day of the month they wish -- this Dr Pepper I'm drinking, e.g., would have breathed its last on FEB 21 2003 if I had not killed it prematurely.

Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 25 January 2003 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)

A lot of ours do, too. I assume the difference between just giving a month or a specific date is whether reasonable estimates are possible within days, or just to the nearest month. If something can be okay for two years, it would be a bit silly to say which day it runs out on.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 January 2003 21:02 (twenty-three years ago)

The American corporate juggernaut is not afraid of mere silliness!

I have here a bottle of aspirin slated to expire on 3/3/2005.

Also I believe the Times Square subway station escalator repair project will be completed on July 10, 2004 (pardon the inconvenience).

Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 25 January 2003 21:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I went over for the first time to my future stepmom's house, probably 1991 or so, and she had 2 cans of pre-New Coke, pre Coke Classic Coca Cola. Not for novelty or anything, they were just left over and she never felt the urge to drink one in 8 years or so.

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Aaron A., Saturday, 25 January 2003 21:21 (twenty-three years ago)

My Dad is always buying expired food cheap. I eat it and I think I'm alright. The worst was when I ate something that had been expired for 3 years or something.

Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Saturday, 25 January 2003 21:54 (twenty-three years ago)

This winter I cleaned my pantry for the first time since moving to the house six years ago. I threw away food stuffs that I had brought with me to Florida in 1997, that had expired in 1993, in Jan. 2003. Kinda scary (and says much about my housekeeping skills - I think I need a live-in maid).

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 January 2003 21:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Then there's the milk I have that says "Sell By Jan 23, NYC Jan 19"

(Must by milk tomorrow!)

rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 26 January 2003 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)

This is off-topic, but a friend of mine did a house-cleaning intervention on a another friend of ours, and discovered an unopened Fed-Ex package from 1993.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 26 January 2003 02:01 (twenty-three years ago)

what was in it? if trout, then not off-topic

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 January 2003 02:10 (twenty-three years ago)

woah, back up there, "house-cleaning intervention"????

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 January 2003 02:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Tough love?

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 26 January 2003 02:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark, what's so "Whoah" about it? Haven't you ever given or gotten Intervention? Like, a group of concerned friends comes over to your apt and says, "Mark, we're worried about you; we think you have a problem. You post so much on ILx and, well, we think it's ruining your life," and then they proceed to describe all the havoc this ILx posting of yours has caused in their life and in yours, all the missed appointments, the lost jobs, the blackouts and the shoulder strain, and end with, "Besides, you still haven't explained what a 'vector to the totality' is." Anyway, recall this scenario, and then simply substitute, "Your apartment is an appalling mess and no one has seen your floor in five years, and something smells weird" for "You post so much on ILx."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 26 January 2003 02:18 (twenty-three years ago)

No.

Vector to the totality = finding a trout in a fed-ex package five years too late

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 January 2003 02:22 (twenty-three years ago)

"I don't take chances with a product that prints the date you might expire." - Calvin and Hobbes

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 26 January 2003 03:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I have some Tylenol with codeine that expired 1/15/88. It's such great stuff I can't throw it away (although it's been years since I took any, and I probably wouldn't now).

And I have 20+ year old spices that I bought to cook something that I never used since, but I guess the worst that can happen from that is stale food.

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 26 January 2003 05:15 (twenty-three years ago)

If anyone would like to offer me a house-cleaning intervention, I'd be very pleased. And an ironing intervention too. I need to know Frank's friends.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 26 January 2003 12:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone got any pre-84 custard powder?My dad reckons it has a superb explosive quality when a naked flame is applied!Has anyone else heard this ruse,or is my old man talking rotten trout(a la Fed-Ex) again?

Eugene Speed (Eugene Speed), Sunday, 26 January 2003 12:21 (twenty-three years ago)

as I was cleaning out my last apartment in boston two years back, i opened the laundry chute (long in disuse) and pulled out, among lots of crumpled newspapers, an unopened box of pop tarts from c. 1975. i didn't dare unwrap the pop tarts but there was a funny little comic book in there with a singing piece of toast.

Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 26 January 2003 12:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Cleaning out the fridge last summer, I discovered my flatmate had stockpiled FOURTEEN bottles of salad dressing ranging from vintage 1997 to the present day. I was cruel and heartless and threw them all out. He thanked me in the end.

Anna (Anna), Sunday, 26 January 2003 12:47 (twenty-three years ago)

my entire family r00ls this thread!!

i wz just talking to mum on the phone and she said that yesterday dad asked for a piece of cake, and she said there isn't any

but then she remembered aunt penny had sent us a cake for xmas: which we had all larfed abt at the time as even still in the parcel it felt like the densest heaviest cake ever baked by ppl not born on jupiter

anyway mum got the tin out of the larder and tipped the cake out, and cut a slice and took it up to dad — warning him that it might be a bit stale, as it wz from xmas (but fruitcakes do keep well, and v.heavy surely means v.moist...)

so dad took a bite and declared it inedible (which is quite severe: he wz at school during WW2 and will eat anything!!)

when mum came back into the kitchen she saw a 'best before" date on the bottom of the cake tin: 1990!!

top present aunt penny!!


mark s (mark s), Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:26 (twenty-three years ago)

HEY, WHAT'S WRONG WITH PEOPLE FROM JUPITER?!?!? SOME GIRLS HAPPEN TO LOVE BOYS FROM JUPITER!!!

And, erm... never mind.

I can top all of you. When I cleaned out the dirt queen's kitchen, I found, like spices that had expired in 1987. Do you have any idea how long it takes spices to go off? So you can surely IMAGINE how old and nasty these things were. If you thought spices didn't go bad, well, let me tell you they get mouldy and yucky like everything else.

There was ketchup that expired in 1996 that was still in her "in use" pile. GAH!

kate, Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Aunt Penny is trying to kill you, Mark. Face it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:58 (twenty-three years ago)

The American store "Big Lots" is full of such atrocities, available for purchase. They specialize in discontinued products - sad, rejected, failed products. Many of the food products are past their expiration date, making it a Theatre of Edible Cruelty. A friend recently bought a can of "Spam with Cheese" there, purely for its kitsch value. It said on the can, "For a limited time only!". Yes, it is the coveted Spam with Cheese Limited Edition (signed and numbered).

Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I've got a can of emergency drinking water from the U.S. Army; when I shake it it sounds like something's inside besides water - I can't open it though, despite my curiousity, since karma would dictate a total and complete water shortage hitting the city the exact moment I did so

I can't think of one conceivable instance in which this would happen any time soon, Tracer. I imagine you can get another canned water before then (!? canned water?!).

We were always finding mystery objects in my mom's fridge, things that got "hidden" in the back and you'd pull out and there was no way of telling what it formerly was before getting covered by mould and nasty. We'd try to guess but we never could. We'd usually end up throwing out the whole container with it, the tupperware. I'd tell her, there's no reason to have this much food, what are you stocking up for that you can forget that you have something so disgusting in there for god knows how long? I've still not gotten a good explanation as to why she needs to much food in her house. I think it has to do with preparing for the tilt of the axis, which is obviously coming very, very soon, like Tracer's water shortage. Maybe it had to do with mad cow disease, I can't keep track of which ridiculous thing is her new obsession.

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:09 (twenty-three years ago)

is tilt of the axis the same as the reversal of earth's magnetic polarity: thats' due momentarily (i read) (in the fortean times)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Only momentarily - that's OK then.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

I just found a tin of 'mackerel fillets in spicy tomato sauce' with a best before date of Dec 2003.

To eat or not?

krakow, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Probably fine - the acidity of the spicy tomato sauce should give it a long shelf life.

o. nate, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

i wouldn't eat those before a date

gabbneb, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

roffle. unless she likes to reenact two girls one spoon type of situation.

i feel extremely guilty: I didn't realize the milk we gave my eldest daughther had expired a month ago. :-(((((((((((((((((((((

stevienixed, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

I've seen reports that honey has been found in Egyptian tombs, and it's still edible.

Also a few years ago some liquor (whiskey, I presume) was found in a shipwreck that was sold at a premium. It won't go bad as long as the cork remains intact.

nickn, Friday, 10 November 2023 23:29 (two years ago)

there's some wine writer I was reading who tried a bottle of 1542 german reisling.. he said it wasn't all that great but it was fun to 'taste the sunshine' from 600 years ago

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 November 2023 23:34 (two years ago)

And apparently I never posted this here, but I have plastic bottles of bloody mary mix from a party I went to in Sept 2001 (the weekend before 9/11). I keep them in the fridge, and have sniffed now and then and they smell (OK, and taste) fine. It's more of a science experiment at this point, since I really don't make bloodys at home, nor ever think to drink tomato juice. I hate throwing away "perfectly good" food.

lol i get "throwing away perfectly good food", but 20+ year old plastic bottles, may very well *not* be perfectly good and safe IMHO. honey wasn't in plastic bottles so it prolly poses zero threat of adulteration

matcha man (outdoor_miner), Friday, 10 November 2023 23:39 (two years ago)

Yeah, it's entirely "science experiment" at this point.

I tried a 1961 German white (maybe even a Reisling) at least 40 yrs after it was bottled. Not good, and after a few sips I dumped it. My father had bought it and stored it in a closet in our non-air conditioned So Cal home.

nickn, Friday, 10 November 2023 23:54 (two years ago)

istr in Jane Grigson's Fish Book she talks about laying down tinned sardines like wine. you have to rotate them occasionally.

fetter, Saturday, 11 November 2023 13:42 (two years ago)

honey is a literally preservative, above all of itself (turns time into a flat circle)

mark s, Saturday, 11 November 2023 13:56 (two years ago)

it's where i store my crimson sarcophagus juice

mark s, Saturday, 11 November 2023 13:57 (two years ago)

can you go on a best before date with someone?

StanM, Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:35 (two years ago)

on the other side of things i bought a thing of tamari when i went gluten free earlier this summer... it has a best before date of february 11, 2026... if it's not gone by then, am i really going to notice it's expired? and is it _actually_ ever going to expire, or does it have an expiration date because all food products here are legally required to?

honestly a lot of the stuff i have in my pantry is there as a prophylactic. do i have any chinese five-spice? good, all is well with the world. have i ever actually used chinese five-spice in my cooking? no but goddamn i COULD IF I WANTED TO. unless i check it and find out it expired five years ago.

my knowledge of wine aging is limited to "day of the tentacle", where at some point you need a bottle of vinegar. the solution, of course, is to travel back in time to the late 18th century and put a bottle of wine where nobody else will find it.

i couldn't ever figure that solution out, myself. steven moffat probably had the solution within five seconds.

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 12 November 2023 19:44 (two years ago)

ten months pass...

Egg Thread Noodles, best before 2018. yes, or no?

koogs, Friday, 13 September 2024 16:20 (one year ago)

probably fine, you're gonna boil them anyway

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 13 September 2024 16:41 (one year ago)

they look like the dictionary definition of inert.

am more surprised i hadn't thought to use them in 6 years.

koogs, Friday, 13 September 2024 16:55 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

I'm saying yes

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/cheese-dating-back-3-600-years-found-in-chinese-tomb-researchers-say-13222530

Alba, Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:21 (one year ago)

How much they asking for it?

H.P, Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:56 (one year ago)

Need to poll “would you eat 3600yo old cheese?”

H.P, Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:57 (one year ago)

I can't cite the original, but a while back I read the phrase "cheese is milk's bid for immortality". This discovery backs that up in a literal sense.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:58 (one year ago)

California Just Became the First State to Ban Sell-By Dates

On September 28, California became the first state to ban “sell-by” dates, as Governor Gavin Newsom signed legislation aimed at combating food waste. The law prohibits the use of consumer-facing sell-by dates, and also requires standardized language for date labels.

Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 10 October 2024 16:57 (one year ago)

one year passes...

best before 12/06...

pva glue, seems fine

koogs, Saturday, 18 October 2025 17:59 (seven months ago)

just don't eat it, you will get terrible constipation!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 18:01 (seven months ago)

If it's a Best Before date it's edible til and nfinity anit's ok to. Hxhill the fuxk put

Sorry i tried my thi.bs are di kz

Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 October 2025 18:02 (seven months ago)

Still got my Best Before Dec 2003 tin of 'Mackerel Fillets in Spicy Tomato Sauce' safe in the cupboard.

brain (krakow), Sunday, 19 October 2025 11:05 (seven months ago)

hmmm i was clearly best before 7pm yesterday

Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 October 2025 12:52 (seven months ago)

I just threw out a baking powder (03/11) in favor of the other baking powder (11/14) I found in the pantry.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 19 October 2025 15:57 (seven months ago)

unopened jar of quince jelly from the back of the fridge - expired 12/2019

what's the verdict? It looks alright

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 20 October 2025 18:38 (seven months ago)

sugar's a preservative, jelly's a preserve -- might have a furry cap on it, scrape that off it'll be fine

(eat the cap to cure pneumonia, lyme disease etc)

mark s, Monday, 20 October 2025 18:46 (seven months ago)

there is a YT genre of people opening up and tasting and smelling old food, like tins of creamed corn from the 1930's etc.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 20 October 2025 18:57 (seven months ago)

uh... listeria? that's seems like a really bad trend

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 20 October 2025 19:13 (seven months ago)

it’s going viral

Lupita Geirhongro (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 20 October 2025 20:16 (seven months ago)

or bacterial i guess

Lupita Geirhongro (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 20 October 2025 20:17 (seven months ago)

one month passes...

Two tins of confit duck. One bbe dec 2015. The other, from the same era, no bbe, obvious dent in the tin. Chuck that one. First one should be ok? *googles botulism*

ledge, Thursday, 27 November 2025 13:37 (six months ago)

assuming "2015" is not a typo, pls throw away and do not eat

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 27 November 2025 14:06 (six months ago)

Found some lemon juice in the back of the larder that had been there a couple of years. Label said, consume within one month of opening. I was going to risk it but then noticed there was a mustard brown sediment at the bottom of the bottle, so my pancakes went unadorned.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 27 November 2025 14:06 (six months ago)

yeah lemon juice is surprisingly perishable

giving you schtick (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 November 2025 14:08 (six months ago)

assuming "2015" is not a typo, pls throw away and do not eat

the poor ducks died in vain ;_;

ledge, Thursday, 27 November 2025 14:12 (six months ago)

i know there are stories of decades old tinned meat being open and consumed but best not tempt the gods eh.

ledge, Thursday, 27 November 2025 14:12 (six months ago)

Tins of duck?!??

Tony Bubbles (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 November 2025 14:14 (six months ago)

yes, i highly recommend it! if it's in date.

ledge, Thursday, 27 November 2025 14:16 (six months ago)

most duck from Chinese takeaways comes from a tin

anyway I'd still eat it if I opened the tin and there were no obvious signs of impending doom tbh

Slouching Towards Benylin (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 November 2025 14:23 (six months ago)

Today is the day I bring out the McCormick’s pumpkin pie spice (best sometime before Covid), use a teaspoon of it, and put it back to age (and improve!) until next year.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 27 November 2025 14:56 (six months ago)

Over for dinner with Mom, went through her spices. You know it's old when it comes in a metal tin box. Particularly the mustard powder with the purple ink stamp that says 17¢.

Some of these date from at least the '70s.

Hideous Lump, Friday, 28 November 2025 02:21 (six months ago)

Don’t ever eat from a can of cream of shrimp soup that was a movie prop from the 1950s

Remo Palmieri: The Adventure Begins (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 28 November 2025 06:51 (six months ago)

“cream of shrimp” - BLARGH TIL

Cow_Art, Friday, 28 November 2025 10:08 (six months ago)


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