Turning On The Giant Faucet Of Bullshit - US Politics February 2025

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I don’t think anyone has played themselves as hard as Rashida Tlaib.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 03:40 (one year ago)

Well the people of gaza didn’t buy a ticket to this show, neither did the undocumented people fleeing gangs and political persecution who are now totally unprotected

treeship 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 03:41 (one year ago)

it can’t just be evaporated like that without causing a massive threat to global security. I would think…

Flood the world espionage market with disgruntled agents, fabulous idea.

xpost amen, real people who were already being hurt are being threatened even more. It's all depraved.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 03:44 (one year ago)

I don’t think anyone has played themselves as hard as Rashida Tlaib.

― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, February 4, 2025 10:40 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh?

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 03:48 (one year ago)

I think "Boy, don't you feel stupid for not voting for just a little genocide as a treat" is the sick own you think it is, etaeoe

*The Anime\(*^β^*)/ Ring (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 03:50 (one year ago)

i keep seeing this commercial with a guy lying on the floor in pain and amazon sends him a huge bottle of oxy with three refills. they know how to sell doctors! but what if their oxy comes from china...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYaYZhd1bo

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 04:15 (one year ago)

Damn, Amazon's gonna start a chain of pill mills servicing their warehouse workers.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 05:11 (one year ago)

It's OK, it'll come out of their HSA.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 05:17 (one year ago)

(Also, people wanted the US to cease to be a hegemonic global force, and now they're getting exactly that.

Don't think that is true at all? Just because the hegemonic global force is flailing around and self destructing doesn't mean it suddenly loses its status, we're all still chained to the US for the foreseeable afaict.

The Gaza story would just be something to chuckle at if it wasn't coming from a hegemonic global force for instance.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 09:55 (one year ago)

People who would like to see a dialing back of American imperialism probably aren’t the same people who are deeply upset by Elon’s USAID fuckery in particular.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 09:59 (one year ago)

hey, it's a two-state solution.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 10:21 (one year ago)

Are we supposed to be pro-USAID now?

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their wealth depends upon the global economic order that they seem hell-bent on destroying? ... even as a leftist crank, is that it really just doesn't seem like any of this makes any fucking sense?

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So there is all kinds of fucked up things the CIA does that I don’t support. However… it can’t just be evaporated like that

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People who would like to see a dialing back of American imperialism probably aren’t the same people who are deeply upset by Elon’s USAID fuckery in particular.

The last run of posts is amazing and suggests a theory.

Tru/sk has done something: turned burn-it-down radicals into fans of the prior status quo. Anarchists are defending the government.

If it weren't so bizarre and awful I would be, like, quipping with detached irony or casting - what was it? Loftily removed bons mots?

My home town is on fire, and people who were shaking their fists at it a few weeks ago are passing buckets.

the real slim pickens (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 11:09 (one year ago)

Leftists preferring the current terrible system over outright fascism isn't exactly a novel development, there's plenty of historical precedent - I fear your detached irony would fall flat.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 11:12 (one year ago)

I think the prior liberal status quo has some things to recommend it over the new oligarchic one. John Ganz's analysis yesterday really hit home for me:

To save themselves, the tech-oligarchs must attack the very notion of universality as such—hence their abandonment of liberal universalism for racism, nationalism, masculine domination, etc., because they represent a conspiracy, a shrinking, exclusive interest against a larger one. They are attacking first and foremost the State and the Bureaucracy, the civil servants: everything that Hegel identified in The Philosophy of Right with the universal, general interest of the whole society against the particularity of “bourgeois society,” the chaotic mass of self-interested businessmen. They want the State to appear just as particularistic as they are and destroy its legitimacy.

https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/what-happened-here-c9f

You're supposed to go to Heaven, ideally not Las Vegas (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 11:33 (one year ago)

I understand why ppl are critical of USAID and frankly international development as an enterprise all together but I am literally getting text from my wife I who is in Laos right now. Here’s what she just wrote:

I had a very powerful meeting with a woman leading the only effort around access to justice for women here, she gets all of her financing from USAId and she’s providing the only legal services to trafficking victims. The stories she told me would make your skin crawl. I need to find a way to get money to her work because otherwise she shuts down.

Heez, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 12:43 (one year ago)

I love guided by voices and all but GBV means something totally different in my house

Heez, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 12:44 (one year ago)

These kinds of departments are a mix of necessary humanitarian aid and sneaky ways for the US to exercise soft power and even disguise covert operations.

What Musk is doing is like if, in response to doctors getting kickbacks from pharma companies to prescribe opioids, the government shut off all funding to hospitals.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 12:55 (one year ago)

pretty sure that's next anyway

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:02 (one year ago)

Musk is an anarcho-capitalist wrecker. He’s not trying to remove fraud and waste. If that was the case he would also address tax loopholes and corporate subsidies like the ones he receives. *He does not have a vision of the state that involves providing for the common good.* He is eventually going to go after Social Security and Medicaid because there is no other place except the Pentagon he could go to make the kinds of cuts he is talking about.

Trump’s rhetoric often had to do with getting a better deal for the American worker. *That is not what this is.* Nothing could be further from Musk’s mind than people’s wellbeing.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:04 (one year ago)

Trump voters probably won’t get it. It should be obvious with Musk even if they were charmed by Trump’s gruff New York manner, his personal vanity and other human foibles. Musk sounds like an android and he wants to put microchips in people’s brains.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:08 (one year ago)

the trump hardcore probably don’t care or even approve of all these seemingly “bold moves” but i do think that there is a substantial number of mild middle of the road people who will be radicalised by this, and i don’t think it’s wishful thinking. the instant you or a family member are hurt, stressed or traumatised and there’s a direct causal chain that’s it

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:14 (one year ago)

Feel like they are overplaying their hand at record time

Dialysis Den (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:29 (one year ago)

new wall street journal headline this morning:

Trump Campaigned on Ending Foreign Entanglements. Now He Wants to Own Gaza.

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:32 (one year ago)

i mean the question is how do these people express their buyers' remorse, before 2026?

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:37 (one year ago)

i can think of a few ways

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:39 (one year ago)

They don't, it's "we'll see how it plays out," which might be an acceptable way to view it if it were an actual, y'know, _game_.

Not so gamelike when your life is the ball and your children are the blades of grass.

the real slim pickens (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:41 (one year ago)

Trump has swindled his way into power, by swindling people who were very willing to be lied to if the lies were coated in delicious, delicious racism. When he starts doing what he said he wouldn't do, enabled by both houses of Republicans who were also happy to be swindled if those lies were coated in delicious, delicious cruelty and also corruption and bribery, where is that tension expressed? I saw Jamelle Bouie writing last night that one reason leaders should prefer democracy to autocracy is that a key component of democracy is the peaceful transition of power.

mulitple xps

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:43 (one year ago)

As in his first term, but even much more now, the cumulative effect of it all is not even outrage but exhaustion. Having to hear and think about this guy and his latest crazy shit nonstop is so tiring. But we can't just not pay attention to him, because any given statement or whim has real-world effects for real people, often bad ones. We voted this guy into our lives and we're stuck with him.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 14:42 (one year ago)

Yup

We live with what we failed to prevent, not that any of us had the power to do so

the real slim pickens (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 15:33 (one year ago)

The fucking asshole won’t even leave us alone for Superbowl Sunday because he’ll be there too

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 16:07 (one year ago)

"when your life is the ball and your children are the blades of grass"

worst megadeth album title ever...

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 16:09 (one year ago)

Here it comes... the Muskovites are into Medicare and Medicaid.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 16:34 (one year ago)

Megadeth Muskovites Medicare Medicaid

All dactyls!

I got in a FAFSA for kid A last week, we are in the middle of pursuing a Medicare waiver for kid B, meanwhile my wife's job revolves around FDA and mine around GSA. Fun!

no cap(ybara) (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 16:41 (one year ago)

Ugh I gotta fill out a FAFSA too. It's so dumb because we won't get any aid, but our state's program that pays tuition for community college (a rare piece of good government here) requires that you file it before they'll give the scholarships.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 16:46 (one year ago)

jamelle bouie pointed out in his times that this might have something to do with musk's hatred of usaid

https://adst.org/2021/06/american-peoples-foreign-policy-usaids-role-in-apartheid-south-africa/

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2025 16:54 (one year ago)

i just caught that $2 airplane thing that trump said. he's too funny. who needs a train? a $2 airplane ride or you just drive! makes sense.

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 17:30 (one year ago)

that is some serious monty burns action.

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 17:31 (one year ago)

So sick of trying to parse what that fucker even means. It’s all noise.

Glam conspiracist (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 17:37 (one year ago)

We want hen fap

no cap(ybara) (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 17:51 (one year ago)

Something needs to be done. I’m completely at a loss. This is the stupidest situation I have ever seen.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 18:23 (one year ago)

Since November, like many others I'm sure, I had a lot of anxiety about his second term and had nightmarish visions of how it would go down. Somehow it is significantly worse than I imagined but also completely unlike any scenario I could have predicted. While, yes, he is definitely following up on things he promised to do, it's just done in such a sloppy, scattershot, chaotic way that I couldn't have imagined the pieces of it - Musk most obviously, but so much else is just baffling to me.

Idk, somehow it feels like both a slow motion crash but yet also a speed run towards irreparable authoritarianism.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 18:31 (one year ago)

Meanwhile transportation funding is now going to be prioritized to places with higher rates of birth and marriage. (Which not coincidentally de-emphasizes urban areas.)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-04/department-of-transportation-memos-tie-funding-to-birth-rate-marriage-policy

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 18:46 (one year ago)

Just a fleet of empty buses circling suburban neighborhoods with three SUVs in every driveway.

Heez, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 18:50 (one year ago)

Holy Shit, Nancy Mace Is Trash-Flavored Trash:

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lhgxogdqxt2o

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 18:51 (one year ago)

Idk, somehow it feels like both a slow motion crash but yet also a speed run towards irreparable authoritarianism.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, February 5, 2025 1:31 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is much worse than i thought it was going to be.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/business/media/lara-trump-fox-news.html

cool cool

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2025 18:58 (one year ago)

xp - holy shit, and is that Boebert clapping like a moron when she says it? I can't quite tell.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:04 (one year ago)

lol that’s the least worrisome news so far like Fox has any integrity

Dialysis Den (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:04 (one year ago)

To the Lara Trump news^^^^

Dialysis Den (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:05 (one year ago)

My dad who watches fox (but only the real news parts!) was visiting this weekend and getting news from his son who had actual emails that he could look at. I guess it had an effect because apparently when they got home my mom asked if he was gonna watch fox and he told her he’s trying to wean himself off of it

Heez, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:09 (one year ago)

hi us pol thread, the british history podcast guy (an american) just posted this on bsky, is it of interest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l8vWfaFVMU

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:43 (one year ago)


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