U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

The AP has not called California's District 45 House race yet, but democrat Derek Tran declared victory over Republican Nancy Steel this evening in this country's most expensive House race.

https://voiceofoc.org/2024/11/all-eyes-are-on-orange-countys-dead-heat-race-in-45th-congressional-district/

Tran's margin has moved from 36 votes last weekend to 581 votes tonight.

Tariffs on...Canada?!

Time to quietly stock up on Canadian products. But do it...

...

Wait for it...

syruptitiously

FPed you.

Richly deserved

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/25/kamala-harris-advisers-options-open-00191393

don’t worry guys

My 'first woman president'!

Mexican President Sheinbaum fires back at Trump in a statement: "Seventy percent of the illegal weapons seized from criminals in Mexico come from your country. We do not produce these weapons, nor do we consume synthetic drugs. Tragically, it is in our country that lives are lost…

— Ishaan Tharoor (@ishaantharoor) November 26, 2024

re: Kamala's options, totally on board with her kneecapping the Gav to become CA governor

She lost 2 million Biden voters in CA (without Trump gaining much at all) so thete is that.

Carville stating in an interview that 'we don't know where people get their news' FFS.

seems like nearly every box of crackers I guy says 'made in Canada' on it (I eat a lot of crackers)

my Ritz crackers say 'Made in Mexico'!

looking forward to Harris losing the gubernatorial race, telling us we won't have Kamala to kick around anymore, and then getting elected president in 2032.

My 'first woman president'!

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 November 2024 20:02 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

fr without Mexican drug imports American capitalism would fall apart (Silicon Valley most particularly)

re: Kamala's options, totally on board with her kneecapping the Gav to become CA governor

― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, November 26, 2024 12:11 PM bookmarkflaglink

milo it is so good to see you've softened on Kamala "Bad career choices" Harris.

*beams*

I would rather none of us ever hear from her ever again, since she was a bad candidate with bad ideological positions and honestly seems like a terrible person, too. Fully admit that I regret voting for her.

I dont think she's a "terrible person" and her positions at least *used* to be good

personally I wouldn't regret voting against a rapist who is staffing his cabinet with other rapists

Looking at the state by state totals more in the end I'm surprised she did actually improve slightly on Biden's vote count in Georgia, North Carolina and Wisconsin.

xp Yeah, I don't regret voting for her at all... nothing noble about a third-party sacrifice bunt when the stakes were this high

The worst people in the world eating one another huzzah, it shines like a beacon in a dreary night

pretty much my take on this debacle so far

tbf table thinks all national politicians are terrible people, not sure why Harris would be any different

p sure tabes likes Bernie OK?

It really is disturbing how he seems to be filtering cabinet nominees by whether they are sexual assaulters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/24/trump-cabinet-alleged-sexual-abusers

Never regret voting against this.

Table did praise a Bernie speech 14 years ago. More recently:

the college friend who writes for jacobin and won't SHUT THE FUCK UP with the Bernie shit.

we get it, you believe, but please stop spending every waking second stanning for this man.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, June 13, 2019 7:50 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

YMP, Bernie is the best option we had. That doesn't mean that he isn't actually what used to be called a "Liberal Democrat" in the US.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, August 11, 2020 6:28 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

But that's obvious, all politicians are lying sacks of shit, this country is doomed, etc.

― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, October 11, 2021 6:08 PM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

all politicians and all celebrities are sociopathic narcissists. ALL of them. they exist in a different world than we do, and are friends with each other because they're rich and well-connected. morals don't matter in their world.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:52 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Anyone who wants to be a politician is, to some degree, a narcissist. IMHO, about 95% are also sociopaths, no matter the party flag they fly.

Trusting politicians is about as stupid as trusting a dog not to steal the steak hanging off the counter when you leave the room.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:12 AM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Like sorry, I don’t trust ANY politician, down to city council members in minor backwaters. You have to have a certain amount of toxic narcissism in order to want to do that kind of work, which partly explains why most decent people don’t want to get into politics

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, May 21, 2024 11:15 AM (six months ago) bookmarkflaglink

The full-throated support for genocide kind of dampens any other good qualities of Harris’ platform or her person afaic. I reluctantly voted for her as a result, but now that all’s said and done, I wish I had refrained from giving the Dems any sort of pass on what amounted to a bad campaign, bad politics, and complicity with what will certainly go down as one of the greatest crimes against humanity of this century.

Bernie, Tlaib, Omar, and a few others seem to be the only national politicians with any sense, and I can understand liking and voting for them.

Unfortunately, the mayor of my city (the loathsome Cherelle Parker) is an utter disgrace, Fetterman is a piece of shit, and so is Shapiro. There are some councilpeople whom I respect, and a few state senators too, but their power is pretty limited.

I would exactly call what Harris said in the campaign “full throated support for genocide”

Quarter-throated at most

Sending Clinton and Torres to close out Michigan is some kind of throating.

if you’re still positing that “Israel has a right to defend itself” bullshit in public, then you are a full-throated supporter of genocide.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/kamala-harris-middle-east-foreign-policy

It really is disturbing how he seems to be filtering cabinet nominees by whether they are sexual assaulters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/24/trump-cabinet-alleged-sexual-abusers

Never regret voting against this.

― felicity, Wednesday, 27 November 2024 00:27 (two hours ago) link

it's possible he is doing this deliberately to show how little he cares for the public's views on these matters. (or in his case the courts because he was found liable for sexual assault)

looking forward to Harris losing the gubernatorial race, telling us we won't have Kamala to kick around anymore, and then getting elected president in 2032.

― jaymc, Tuesday, November 26, 2024 4:06 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

if trump term 2 is as bad as it looks like its gearing up to be, democrats could sweep 2028

It’ll be morning in america by then and we’ll just re-elect reag— i mean vance.

vance will be the nominee but he'll be in a position similar to the one harris was in in 2024

xps

Trump just got elected running as a serial and convicted sexual assaulter. Apparently people like sexual assaulters. He probably sees it as a plus.

In case you’d missed it, this story is really quite something.

https://ncnewsline.com/2024/11/19/nc-republican-lawmakers-move-to-curb-power-of-statewide-offices-won-by-democrats/

Not that Republicans haven’t pulled this shit in other states, but it’s infuriating whenever it’s tried and/or succeeds

The NC Legislature is so terrible. Real "L'Etat, c'est moi" vibe there.

This one line item jumped out at me as fit for the dystopia thread: "1. It would appropriate funds to the New Hanover County Schools ($3.2 million) and Davidson County School ($2 million) for an artificial intelligence 'school safety pilot program.'"

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/RoboCop.jpg

looking forward to Harris losing the gubernatorial race, telling us we won't have Kamala to kick around anymore, and then getting elected president in 2032.
― jaymc, Tuesday, November 26, 2024 4:06 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ahem

She'll follow the Nixon playbook and run for CA governor, lose, and then be elected President in 2032.

― Grape Fired At Czar From Crack Battery (President Keyes), Thursday, November 7, 2024 3:06 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

Trump just got elected running as a serial and convicted sexual assaulter. Apparently people like sexual assaulters. He probably sees it as a plus.

― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, November 26, 2024 9:15 PM

I don't care if I end up annoying the fuck out of the few Dem higher-ups with whom I interact, I will not stop bugging them to use messaging that constantly mentions Trump being a rapist in every comment they make in any media appearance, social or otherwise. Make his backers live with the fact that they support a man who forces himself on women without their consent, and they, by proxy, are saying that behavior is totally cool.

My dream is for states with Democratic trifectas to pass bills that say "We respect no law signed by a rapist", and dare the SCOTUS to overturn it. If anything, it forces the media to aim attention to the sexual assaults by the fuckstick in a bad mud-mask

Do it because he is or because you want to or whatever but clearly it has no political valance whatsoever - the more you label someone without any negative consequences being attached (see: threat to democracy, fascist, felon, etc.) the less it matters.

good Newsroom 2: the Newsing pitch though

No, that's the level where we are today, just constant repetition of even the most basic stuff, like the President is a RAPIST and the people that voted him in and enable his shit are shameful and should be reminded constantly of this until they no longer try to make it ok.

the more you label someone without any negative consequences being attached (see: threat to democracy, fascist, felon, etc.) the less it matters.

I think this is largely true, but it may actually go beyond this and actually start to matter in the other direction, to be worn as a badge of pride which also goes alongside a sense of being hectored which is often actively sought after as a form of negative validation

And in some cases, certainly threat to democracy, this rests on a presumption the charge is viewed as a negative in the first place. The idea people might not actually want democracy didn't seem to be considered as a possibility

I think a more effective message is going to be on the Trump Tariffs. He's talking about implementing them on day one, what he's able to do, what he decides to do, and to what level he's able to put them on I don't know.

Negative effects will be blamed on Biden, so Trump Tariffs needs to be in place early and hammered home relentlessly. On the other hand, he could also inherit the improving economy, not put any tariffs on at all, say he's put the tariffs on regardless, and take credit for the economy

More bad news for #CA13 Rep. John Duarte (R): near-final Stanislaus Co. ballots extend Adam Gray's (D) lead to 182 votes. The chances of a 220R-215D House breakdown (Dems +2 vs. '22 result) just shot up a lot tonight. https://t.co/C4a7JmiGk7

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 27, 2024

good chance Democrats somehow gained 2 seats in the house

Don't really "get" regretting or not regretting a vote for Kamala at this rate - she didn't win, you don't have to worry about having supported her, it didn't pay off for her.

This is really table's particular 'journey'. But yes...you did or didn't do your 'civic duty'

Now to sip a cup of (expensive) coffee and unite the country (against Canadians).

Part of it is simply reminding myself to not get hectored or scared and act on my instincts, which were to sit the election out. Glad everyone can be so patronizing and creepy though.