U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

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They raised a lot of money, though.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 15 November 2024 19:34 (one year ago)

Some interesting observations from a UNC professor about his students' engagement with the election and their media consumption habits in general, particularly with respect to what they find authentic/trustworthy. In short, hangout/shoot-the-shit podcasts YES, mainstream news articles and major celebrity endorsements NO.

(I'm reminded of that NYT focus group of younger voters that I posted the other day, in which someone said that Kamala going on SNL was a key moment for her in a negative way: "All her focus was going to entertainment industries and avoiding interviews. That came off to me as very phony.")

jaymc, Friday, 15 November 2024 19:35 (one year ago)

Thanks for that, Jaymc.

Also, wow.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 November 2024 19:57 (one year ago)

While she “avoided interviews” early, she later did a Fox one and a CNN town hall one. Trump didn’t do CNN and never faced tough questions from Fox. Just from the Black Journalism organization. Most of the podcasts with big audiences are white Republican bro leaning .

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 November 2024 20:05 (one year ago)

attacking "big pharma" hardly seems a Republican rallying cry.

This caught my eye and I don't see anyone addressing it, so I will try.

The Republican Party to all purposes no longer exists. From November 8th going forward it is now the Trump Party. In the transactional world of Trump this attack on Big Pharma makes great sense if you consider it purely in terms of a shakedown.

As a president with a supinely compliant Congress Trump will have enormous power over Big Pharma and they know it. He doesn't give a fuck about RFK's brainworm ideas, but he knows that he can use them as a weapon to threaten Big Pharma into doing whatever he wants. Other than money, he doesn't even know yet what all he might want from them in the future. He's just setting up the relationship so that he is their unquestioned boss and they'll hop when he says jump. This is straight out of the Hitler/Mussolini fascist playbook.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 15 November 2024 20:12 (one year ago)

Jaymc the prof you posted said :

(I vote every time I can because it’s meaningless rather than because it’s meaningful, a stance I’m happy to explain over a cup of tea but isn’t really relevant here

I would like to have a cup of tea with the guy and I note that I don’t think his article mentioned the loss of Roe v Wade , or which party has pushed tax cuts for the wealthy for decades, and why none of that seems to matter to him or his students

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 November 2024 20:17 (one year ago)

While she “avoided interviews” early, she later did a Fox one and a CNN town hall one. Trump didn’t do CNN and never faced tough questions from Fox. Just from the Black Journalism organization. Most of the podcasts with big audiences are white Republican bro leaning.

Yeah, but they present themselves as fora for open-minded discussion. It's not about subjecting yourself to a tough interview. In fact, the traditional network news approach to interviews with politicians, with their own formalized/staged conventions, would probably also be registered as phony. It's about having an unfiltered conversation where anything can come up and you can roll with it. People made fun of Trump asking Theo Von about cocaine, but it was also the most human Trump has seemed in years.

That said, I also think that "Kamala avoiding interviews" was a right-wing talking point that took hold with a lot of people.

jaymc, Friday, 15 November 2024 20:21 (one year ago)

podcasts have ruined an entire generation

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 15 November 2024 20:25 (one year ago)

I note that I don’t think his article mentioned the loss of Roe v Wade

The federal Democratic Party not (being capable of) doing anything about it, maybe? Absent a willingness to pack the courts and reverse Dobbs on the national level, abortion is a state issue and voters have routinely turned out to defend choice at that level but outrage alone isn't going to be much of a boost for a national candidate.

and why none of that seems to matter to him or his students

You're looking for a guy to be mad at who ultimately had zero impact on the Democrats losing.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 15 November 2024 20:31 (one year ago)

Trump Justices took away Roe and made abortion a state issue. And yea Dems and Hilary ran a lousy campaign compounded by a press and fbi focused on her emails, but they weren’t the ones who took a constitutional right away .

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 November 2024 20:43 (one year ago)

And yes subsequently it’s hard to do anything, but not mentioning it seems problematic

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 November 2024 20:44 (one year ago)

Trump Justices took away Roe and made abortion a state issue

If your expectation is that voters will be avenging angels for judicial appointments for a decision that came down after the appointer was no longer in office, you are doomed to disappointment.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 15 November 2024 20:51 (one year ago)


The federal Democratic Party not (being capable of) doing anything about it, maybe? Absent a willingness to pack the courts and reverse Dobbs on the national level, abortion is a state issue and voters have routinely turned out to defend choice at that level but outrage alone isn't going to be much of a boost for a national candidate.

There are hundreds of tik toks by women who voted for trump using this as the reason they did not consider or looked past abortion/repro health when voting. Said it was a non-issue now that it's state level and since KH wouldn't haven't been able to anything about it, it was a non-issue. Genuinely get the impression this is how a ton of people reconciled their votes.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 15 November 2024 20:51 (one year ago)

“I will pack the court with teenagers to protect your rights” - maybe not a winning argument but at least an actionable promise instead of banking on residual anger.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 15 November 2024 20:54 (one year ago)

There can/should still be a national reproductive health law! Granted you’d need control of White House and Congress, but it’s emphatically untrue that the president can’t do anything about it.

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Friday, 15 November 2024 20:54 (one year ago)

I agree with you completely! I am not one of those women and it drives me nuts but I keep seeing women saying exactly that excuse.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 15 November 2024 20:59 (one year ago)

I keep editing my posts but messing up. Stupid phone. I meant to say 'using" that excuse.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 15 November 2024 21:00 (one year ago)

hesgeth was accused of sexual assault in CA in 2017

https://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/trump-s-pick-to-lead-defense-department-was-19919156.php

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 15 November 2024 21:10 (one year ago)

this is going to be a cabinet full of rapists isn't it?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 15 November 2024 21:11 (one year ago)

Are ballots still being counted?

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 November 2024 21:39 (one year ago)

CA is still 88% counted

Grape Fired At Czar From Crack Battery (President Keyes), Friday, 15 November 2024 21:42 (one year ago)

Interesting-- at this point Trump is beating his 2020 total by about 2 million votes. Harris is 8 million behind Biden's 2020 total.

Grape Fired At Czar From Crack Battery (President Keyes), Friday, 15 November 2024 21:45 (one year ago)

Maybe we need to do one o them "Deep States"

Joe Boudin (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 November 2024 21:52 (one year ago)

“The stuff that he eats is really, like, bad,” he told marketing industry podcaster Joe Polish at a live recording of his “The Joe Polish Show” published Tuesday. “Campaign food is always bad, but the food that goes onto that airplane is like just poison. You have a choice between—you don’t have the choice, you’re either given KFC or Big Macs. That’s when you’re lucky and then the rest of the stuff I consider kind of inedible.”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 November 2024 22:50 (one year ago)

RFK jr on trump’s diet

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 November 2024 22:51 (one year ago)

Wonder how long it's been since Trump took a normal dump.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 15 November 2024 22:53 (one year ago)

they've got to be grinding up laxatives in his McFlurries to keep him from dying

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 15 November 2024 22:54 (one year ago)

this is going to be a cabinet full of rapists isn't it?

Kavanaughs all the way down

velcromagnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 November 2024 23:27 (one year ago)

wait they've discovered something more inedible than KFC?

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:04 (one year ago)

Golden Chick

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:10 (one year ago)

Church’s

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:10 (one year ago)

Popeye’s anywhere outside of Louisiana

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:10 (one year ago)

popeyes is good where i am but i'm not a popeyes expert.

scott seward, Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:18 (one year ago)

good enough that i wish there was one in my town here. there is no decent fast food here. and no fried chicken! shameful, really.

scott seward, Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:20 (one year ago)

KFC is gross. I've never been to Popeye's or Church's. The best fried chicken I've had is the salt and pepper chicken from a couple of Chinese restaurants in SF - Capital Restaurant in Chinatown in particular. It is crispy but is not breaded and there is no flabby skin. It is served with sliced hot green peppers

Dan S, Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:28 (one year ago)

Popeyes is great.

dan selzer, Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:38 (one year ago)

Popeye's is good but I prefer Church's and I feel weird for that. There's a Korean wings spot near me that has my actual favorite fried chicken.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:38 (one year ago)

🚨🚨Scoop: Rahm Emanuel weighs bid for DNC chair https://t.co/LM3Lwzwmgy

— Jim VandeHei (@JimVandeHei) November 15, 2024

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:53 (one year ago)

awesomeness

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 November 2024 00:59 (one year ago)

I mean, why not?

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 16 November 2024 01:01 (one year ago)

Rahm Emanuel weighs bid for DNC chair

I guess it's time to stop thinkin' about tomorrow, because it'll be here all too fucking soon and it's written somewhere that "sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof".

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 16 November 2024 01:25 (one year ago)

America to Democrats: “We ARE going back”

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 16 November 2024 01:26 (one year ago)

Democrats to America: “What the fuck do you want from us?”

Grape Fired At Czar From Crack Battery (President Keyes), Saturday, 16 November 2024 01:45 (one year ago)

Rahm is dying to hoover up all the troops who get tossed out by SecDef Fox News

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 November 2024 01:47 (one year ago)

America to Democrats: “We ARE going back”

― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, November 15, 2024 5:26 PM bookmarkflaglink

sadlol

felicity, Saturday, 16 November 2024 02:24 (one year ago)

Rahm is dying to hoover up all the troops who get tossed out by SecDef Fox News


As in Herbert, J. Edgar or what Britishes call a vacuum cleaner?

sarahell, Saturday, 16 November 2024 02:57 (one year ago)

The bankers have chosen a new Treasury Secretary https://t.co/pK6TcZRwv8

— Joe Colangelo (@Itsjoeco) November 14, 2024

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 November 2024 12:19 (one year ago)

pretty good joke, but it should be white smoke, shouldn't it?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 16 November 2024 21:23 (one year ago)

https://i.imgur.com/eTd11YP.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/eTd11YP.jpeg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 17 November 2024 14:21 (one year ago)

https://i.imgur.com/rwF4J9M.jpeg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 17 November 2024 14:22 (one year ago)


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