U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

That all depends on who is holding the tinderbox.

also related: the phenomenon of white people assuming that all nonwhite people are going to college for free

to wit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq-hx73or30

y'all should look at AOC's stories, she asks folks why they voted for her + Trump. illuminating

here it is

AOC asked her followers who split their ballots either for Trump/her or Trump/downballot Dem to explain why and posted the replies: pic.twitter.com/LuTcD29szt

— aaron from queens 🇵🇸 (@aaronnarraph) November 11, 2024

I just saw this. This shit is stupid. Trump talks about war like it's bad? WTF do they think will happen in Gaza and Ukraine once he's in?

I guess the 'wars' will be 'over' because everyone will be dead

Huh

Trump talks about war like it's bad? WTF do they think will happen in Gaza and Ukraine once he's in?

It's not about what he will do, it's how he talks about it.

jamelle bouie posted this on bluesky this weekend

i’ll say this: i did a video on tiktok about the fact that federal limits on abortion would supersede all state protections and a lot of people refuse to believe it

It's not about what he will do, it's how he talks about it.

this is p much true about everything tbh

i guess it's worth wondering whether AOC will run 28.

for Prez? yeah was wondering same

love aoc but it's hard for me to imagine her winning given how reviled she is on the right. mgp, on the other hand...

(not just reviled but caricatured as the embodiment of far left lunacy. not sure how she can shake that off.)

AOC for Schumer's Senate seat in 2028, please!

who is MGP

i imagine whitmer will run, maybe Maura Healey (who I am a fan of), Pete. tbh Dems should find some white straight guy given how fucked the US is (so I assume Newsom is now going to run). but maybe things will get so much worse in the next 4 years it'll leave an opening.

xp Marie Gluesekamp Perez

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/us/politics/marie-gluesenkamp-perez-interview.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/01/magazine/marie-gluesenkamp-perez.html

opposes student debt relief and assault weapons bans? she sounds like she sucks to me but who knows

love aoc but it's hard for me to imagine her winning given how reviled she is on the right. mgp, on the other hand...

(not just reviled but caricatured as the embodiment of far left lunacy. not sure how she can shake that off.)

And if several posters in her feed indicated that they supported her AND Trump, well, it reminds me of the Sanders/Trump voters of 2016.

hey look I would love to be wrong about her

the biggest obstacle to aoc as a candidate comes from the donor class

donor class needs to learn to eat a little shit but of course they never will

Gyac otm — Trump is a total caricature of lunacy. This path of catering to haters hasn’t really succeeded very well.

People on twitter are making a case for Gavin Newsom, as the kind of psycho bastard attack dog you want on your side.

there's been a lot of discussion about 2004 as an analogue to 2024, with the hopeful reminder that dems thought they needed a hawkish white veteran from the south to compete in bush's america, but ended up winning with an anti-war black guy from chicago with the middle name hussein. obama and aoc are v different figures, but the overall lesson is perhaps worth remembering. esp. since one of obama's strengths was being able to position himself as a charismatic relatable outsider.

i think one of the greatest barriers to her running for president is being of prime childbearing age :( obama had someone else to outsource that work to iirc.

i have no idea what her reproductive goals are, so i could be wrong and she doesn't want to reproduce, but if she does i don't see that as being compatible with a presidential campaign

People on twitter are making a case for Gavin Newsom, as the kind of psycho bastard attack dog you want on your side.

― glumdalclitch, Monday, November 11, 2024 9:24 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I’m old enough to remember when that attack dog was Rahm Emanuel

Having sat in a room listening to a bunch of MAGAs talk about AOC - Jay otm. They absolutely despise her. :/

you have to have someone without any 'socialist' connotations as they have poisoned that word and concept too much, despite it being a viable solution to many of these economic anxieties.

“party of welfare benefits for people who don’t work” sounds like the GOP to me!

Judging by his public appearances, Newsom seems to have a better dealer than Emanuel though

Elise Stefanik as UN Ambassador ugggh

Homan also seems like an absolute nightmare but that isn't v surprising

The NYT picture of Stefanik made me think of the Nicola Murray character in The Thick of It … a reminder that there is going to be more egregious incompetence and venality

They’d rather everyone lose than someone else win.

https://images2.penguinrandomhouse.com/cover/9780525509585

From the financial crisis of 2008 to rising student debt to collapsing public infrastructure, she found a root problem: racism in our politics and policymaking. But not just in the most obvious indignities for people of color. Racism has costs for white people, too. It is the common denominator of our most vexing public problems, the core dysfunction of our democracy and constitutive of the spiritual and moral crises that grip us all. But how did this happen? And is there a way out?

McGhee embarks on a deeply personal journey across the country from Maine to Mississippi to California, tallying what we lose when we buy into the zero-sum paradigm—the idea that progress for some of us must come at the expense of others. Along the way, she meets white people who confide in her about losing their homes, their dreams, and their shot at better jobs to the toxic mix of American racism and greed. This is the story of how public goods in this country—from parks and pools to functioning schools—have become private luxuries; of how unions collapsed, wages stagnated, and inequality increased; and of how this country, unique among the world’s advanced economies, has thwarted universal healthcare.

akm bernie is literally a socialist but that didn’t seem to stop him (except with the dem establishment)

People on twitter are making a case for Gavin Newsom, as the kind of psycho bastard attack dog you want on your side.

Maybe his buddy FF Coppola could cast him in something and the Dems can play the R’s game

magas hating her is going to become a big point in her favor by 2028 when they are they hated incumbent party who razed the country and stomped on our rights for a few extra dollars

akm bernie is literally a socialist but that didn’t seem to stop him (except with the dem establishment)

I mean I agree Bernie was a bet worth taking but like I said, at this point, now, they have utterly poisoned that word. and the dem establishment is also a hurdle you need to get over (though it feels like that establishment may have just crumbled).

magas hating her is going to become a big point in her favor by 2028 when they are they hated incumbent party who razed the country and stomped on our rights for a few extra dollars

there is this. I think it'll be 2 years before we have any idea of how likely it is someone can run and counteract all of this shit. If the economy somehow does great despite horrible social repurcussions, unfortunately I think the US populace will go with the economy.

I like AOC way more than Newsom… is Shakey still accidentally banned? If not, he can corroborate how SF leftists compared him to Patrick Bateman in the 2000 mayoral election

in the end, it's always the economy that wins out. maybe Carville was right all along.

shhhh you have to literally apologise for the gall of running for election against people ranting that you’re killing their children by teaching them about civil rights

The left and even a fair number of not-extremely-left people despite Newsom. I think he's alright and I even think he was probably a better SF Mayor than anyone expected. He deserves a huge amount of credit for gay marriage. But I absolutely don't see how he could win national office. Republicans fucking hate him, the left hates him, too many negatives.