U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

I think as soon as Trump takes office, the media will go all in on how fabulous the economy is, and he will claim full credit for it, and if he's smart (he's not) he'll just sit back, do nothing, let the fed keep slashing rates, and be celebrated for it. Some people will absolutely buy this, some will not. The shine will fade eventually, and then who knows?

Wouldn’t NY, a safe blue state, be seen as a good to stay home in if you really felt you couldn’t/didn’t want to vote for whatever reason? xps

Yes. But even though it doesn't affect the electoral college, I do wonder about the cumulative effect of people who might otherwise vote for a Democrat staying home. In part because of them, Trump can now claim a win in the popular vote and improvements in his vote share in all but two states. That produces a narrative that will shape the direction of the Democratic Party over the next few years. Maybe it leads to more creative thinking about how to retain and expand the existing Democratic coalition, though I'm guessing a lot of focus will be on winning back Biden-Trump voters.

Bret Stephens has already pre-written a year's worth of columns

staying home entirely in a safe blue state is a non-starter for me, you can abstain voting for President all you want but don't ignore the downticket races

or the ballot initiatives, if any

And I have summoned a year’s worth of middle fingers in response

I hope NYT gets DDOSed every day for a year

I wonder how many people left the top of the ballot blank or wrote in someone in places like NYC.

― JoeStork, Friday, November 8, 2024 9:40 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I live in los angeles and wrote in my dog

voted for most of the progressives-endorsed candidates and measures tho, including the anti-slavery one which failed…

Yglesias is saying that being pro-Arab is the same as being antisemitic. But in fact voters who want Palestinians treated humanely are not antisemitic. Slotkin won because she was willing to address the concerns of people opposed to the mass slaughter in Gaza, which Harris… pic.twitter.com/aUVrttl5WE

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 8, 2024

now we need a 'who is worse, Yglesias v Taibbi v Greenwald' thread, only I think this puts Yglesias at the top by default

Basically my parents bought their house in 1975 and their property taxes are

I wonder how many people left the top of the ballot blank or wrote in someone in places like NYC.

― JoeStork, Friday, November 8, 2024 9:40 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I live in los angeles and wrote in my dog

Are many dogs still named Fido these days?

At least two people I know wrote in "Shirley Chisholm" in NYC for top spot and the Gillibrand race. Most of my ballot was running unopposed downticket.

Not dismissing the realities of inflation and economic challenges, but these were just as bad, if not worse in 2022, and the numerous special elections that have occurred since prices started to rise in 2021. Yet, the voters were generally positive towards Democrats during those elections because our issues were more central to their vote than the Repubs were. It wasn't until this week were they actually expressed that frustration at the ballot box. I don't think its a coincidence that we've seen a major social network fall under the thrall of a Nazi billionaire, and the discovery that the massive right-wing media ecosystem was taking huge payouts from nefarious sources, since the last major election. Especially as the readership and ratings of old-time media outlets keeps cratering, the online/YouTube/social media world looms even more significant than ever - and we are getting crushed in this new environment.

However, if the voters are able to be moved by information (real and completely fabricated) from one side's new media, we need to offer them a counter ecosystem that welcomes them; is accessible, as in without a paywall; entertaining; and doesn't require critical thinking skills or deep knowledge of Marxist theory to understand. Like something that uses random normie hobbies and interests as the hook to eventually get people from demographics that don't traditionally engage with lefty media to support single-payer health care, immigration, or trans rights, so Repub attacks ring hollow in 2026 and future races.

Mid-terms attract a different type of voter than the general election, aka a lot of the people that vote in the former stay home for the latter. or do that stupid thing where they deliberately choose a party different than that of the President in congressional races "because nobody should have too much power"

And I have summoned a year’s worth of middle fingers in response

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, November 8, 2024 12:51 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

You’re in good company

voters are able to be moved by information (real and completely fabricated) from one side's new media

Has any city erected a huge bronze statue of Roger Ailes that we can throw garbage at and then topple to the cheers of an approving throng?

xpost I hope everyone is stocking up on middle fingers now before the tariffs start

the price of raising those middle fingers will skyrocket

Here is an idea. I’m not saying it’s good, bad, or indifferent, but:

Do we need to nominate well-meaning assholes who are publicly awful now?

We nominated Bill Clinton twice.

has this been discussed? JFC

A placard reading "women are property" at Texas State University has gone viral, the day after Donald Trump won the election.

Photos of two men holding up controversial signs at the San Marcos Campus have been shared online, with counter-protests clearly taking place around them.

The signs read: "Women are property," "Homo sex is sin," "Types of property: Women, slaves, animals, cars, land, etc.," and "Romans chapter on reads your sin of sodomy is 'worthy of death'."

I mean, we're going to hear about terrible things from super-red parts of the country, often, and it's up to us whether to bear witness and traumatize ourselves with them daily. Maybe it's worth it, kind of like following Gaza in real time. But if it weakens our spirit, it diminishes our capacity to act when needed.

A big part of my final decision to ditch X was opening it Wednesday, having it once again default to "For You" and seeing a tweet that read, "Your body. My choice. Forever." from some blue checkmarked dipshit.

That would be from Berwyn, IL, resident Nick Fuentes. Though from other tweets, it's catching on with high-school boys as well.

Ugh, so repellent.

"I don't think its a coincidence that we've seen a major social network fall under the thrall of a Nazi billionaire, and the discovery that the massive right-wing media ecosystem was taking huge payouts from nefarious sources, since the last major election."

Democratic consultants just pocketed tens of millions of dollars overseeing the loss of what Dems said was the most important election in history & now Democratic media is trying to convince liberals that they ran a flawless campaign & nothing has to change.

We need a new media. pic.twitter.com/ZQrC8vsRye

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) November 8, 2024

Via Kamala HQ: Walz is back in MN and about to speak.

How much a) legal risk and b) physical risk is there in openly calling Musk a Nazi? (I'm all for it, to be clear.)

I've done it but I broke out of prison to vote

interesting idea from a Guardian reader.. what's he got to lose?

Joe Biden should resign on his 82nd birthday on 20 November, allowing Kamala Harris to become America’s first female president, till 20 January. That would be a decent legacy.
Dominic Shelmerdine
London

Elon Musk joined Trump's call with Zelensky today

Or rather on Wednesday

Musk, but not Vance...

Yeah it does sound like a stupid horror show

Ugh, giving Kamala Harris a consolation prize is so cringe.

She'd get a nice pension bump though!

getting a "last 30 minutes of Godfather" vibe in one way from that idea

Harris would then have to nominate her own VP, who would need to be confirmed by both the House and Senate. After all, someone's gotta certify the election on January 6.

"oops, you guys shat on all my suggestions, guess I'll just stay President until we figure it out"

Harris would then have to nominate her own VP

Carrot Top is free, I'm told

Make Harris President, she nominates Hunter Biden as VP, House refuses to confirm, Trump can't become President because there's no one to certify, Harris rules by fiat

quick, get the ILXphone

Andy, funny you share that - I was talking about that with relatives just last night.

It would be worth it just to see the women haters lose their minds.

Start the Steal

The thing is— there was a guy who was President for one day and can anyone remember his name without looking it up?

that's kinda BS, isn't it?

idk but I'm sure they made a movie about it with Kevin Kline