U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

but this is the first year in history that every single national incumbent party across the world has lost vote share. This election wasn't only about Trump, even if it should have been.

just reposted this, excellent context to fight back against the dumbass fringe lefties who are already posting "this was rigged"

They should have STOPPED THE STEAL at about 8:30 est on Tuesday iirc

I know why this is but man is it ever deflating to hear Biden and Harris say "it'll be ok" after yelling about the end of democracy non stop for months.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, November 7, 2024 4:45 PM bookmarkflaglink

I mean what can you say? "give up - it's all over, our lives are ruined"? I took it more like a 'we have each other' type statement, not literally meaning nothing bad will happen.

woulda been nice if Biden had said "yo, find the nearest Nazi. got him? punch him until his mouth looks like a Rubik's cube" though

Not too late for Biden to say that though

I mean what can you say? "give up - it's all over, our lives are ruined"?

Say the kind of things that are said in this thread. "If your mom voted for Trump, delete her number from your phone. If your co-worker wants to talk shit, catch him in the parking lot. These people have spent the last year telling us that we are their mortal enemies. Act accordingly."

In other words, sound like a dumbass.

I just got an email from Walz about 'some Senate races that still need our help'... really?

I guess grief-giving is a thing but we already gave you a cool billion

The American public embraces dumbassery on every level. Did you miss the meeting on Tuesday?

Maybe just one more Cornpop anecdote, one that’s relevant

These people.

Democratic donor-advisor Dmitri Mehlhorn:

"The Second American Republic (1868-2024) is over."

"I’m heading back to the private sector." pic.twitter.com/bUsQbQ5L4N

— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) November 7, 2024

follow the money!

well this race proved once & for all that 21st Century polling methodology is complete shit and can now be ignored forever... Goodbye Marist, Goodbye Rasmussen... we hardly knew ya

"where humanism meets generative AI"

huh really? Seems like the polls were predicting this result.

Are biden and ex-presidents gonna skip inauguration like Trump did?

And with that, Gavin Newsom launches his 2028 presidential campaign. https://t.co/PGXn1b0AVZ

— jordan (@JordanUhl) November 7, 2024

Are biden and ex-presidents gonna skip inauguration like Trump did?

They absolutely should. Let him stand up there with Catturd.

I mean, I hope that's it. Maybe the grand lesson here is that it's only like 5-10% of the population that really follows this shit the way we do.

huh really? Seems like the polls were predicting this result

everything was 'neck & neck' and 'too close to call' until tuesday evening, when it wasn't

the betting markets did better

Not to give Newsom too much credit and we'll see what he accomplishes, but I am glad to see he's at least trying to do some pre-emptive prep work - more than Biden could fucking manage.

I'm guessing Pritzker will probably be doing the same soon, if he isn't already working at it.

A striking moment of self-awareness from David Brooks pic.twitter.com/E5rQdNNrf8

— Will Bunch (@Will_Bunch) November 7, 2024

If this is true..

Uber's chief legal officer (who also happens to be Harris' brother-in-law) convinced Harris to stop attacking big business during the campaign, in order to get more CEOs on board. Couldn't make it up. pic.twitter.com/tYQpqV79I8

— Ben Wray (@Ben_Wray1989) November 7, 2024

Jfc.

I would like at least one Democratic candidate with 10% of Trump's dngaf swagger. You don't like my rhetoric? I'll propose nationalizing Uber.

the campaign died due to a thousand tiny cuts like that

Re Harris’s next move: I hear she has experience in the fast food industry

Prez K:

RFK, FDA. What else do I have to say?

A+

Andyhopper:

we already gave you a cool billion

Like that John Mulaney bit about college alumni fundraising: "I already gave you two hundred thousand dollars. And you _spent it already_?

the gall to be asking for money this week

That's the only gall they have.

that mulaney bit is one of my favorite things of all time. "I gave you $120,000 and you gave me a weird cinder block room with a Reservoir Dogs poster on it and the first real heartbreak of my life, and probably HPV"

I told a friend yesterday that in a way I'm glad Obama's rhetoric for once fell completely flat.

No thanks Obama

I would like at least one Democratic candidate with 10% of Trump's dngaf swagger. You don't like my rhetoric? I'll propose nationalizing Uber.

― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, November 7, 2024 2:16 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the campaign died due to a thousand tiny cuts like that

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)

this really sums it all up

Akm z you told me to read Jane Austen... and I didn't.

i for one would like a moratorium forever on the phrase "the economy"

let's be specific please, my fuckheads

lol and otm

Yeah I don't know what people want here. Everyone was mocking the 50-49 poll "herding" in the swing states, and currently it's:
PA 50-49
MI 50-48
WI 50-49
GA 51-49
NC 51-48
And when NV and AZ are counted that's likely to be where they land too. https://t.co/oYFFwWyqsv

— David Dayen (@ddayen) November 7, 2024

Nate Silver screaming 1 IN A TRILLION into a pillow

more painful than Trump winning is the fact that Nate Silver was actually right all along

nate silver was the friends we made along the way

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point

anyway since we're all bitching about the Dems here can I just say I really wasn't a fan of how Harris became the VP in the first place? iirc in one of the Biden vs. Sanders debates Joe outright said "I promise my VP pick will be a woman", to me that kind of leans way into the "virtue signalling" shit people hate from the Dems, saying right away I'm not picking the best candidate but rather the best *female* candidate, I mean yeah it's cool if you planned to do that all along but don't say it like that

to Harris's credit she didn't run on the "first woman President" like Hillary did, but she did do that "here's my platform for black voters" thing which included "protect crypto" and "legal weed" which was a very Hillary thing to do, especially as it was coming admist a bunch of claims that they were losing black support. shit felt so nakedly transparent to me.

Xp keyes — i posted that link in the California politics thread way earlier today, but hey kip

Eh, if there’s any place to virtue signal it’s the VP pick. More salient with Trump and Biden because lol old but otherwise it’s a non-job.

Cold marketing driven pandering, where decisions are guided by focus groups studying what "resonates" with their target demographics. I think people are better at spotting that shit than they're given credit for

She would have never got those things anyways.

I was just thinking about something that stuck with me in the debate.

DONALD TRUMP: You know what it reminds me of? When they said they're going to get student loans terminated and it ended up being a total catastrophe. The student loans -- and then her I think probably her boss, if you call him a boss, he spends all his time on the beach, but look, her boss went out and said we'll do it again, we'll do it a different way. He went out, got rejected again by the supreme court. So all these students got taunted with this whole thing about -- this whole idea. And how unfair that would have been. Part of the reason they lost. To the millions and millions of people that had to pay off their student loans. They didn't get it for free. But they were saying -- it's the same way that they talked about that, that they talk about abortion.

They couldn't get -- they didn't even come close to getting student loans. They didn't even come close to getting student loans. They taunted young people and a lot of other people that had loans.

Biden giving her bullshit titles like Immigration Czar helped torpedo this campaign. The VP should be encased in carbonite and only thawed if the President dies or a Senate vote needs tie-breaking.

watching libs pushing the "15 million missing votes" conspiracy theory to the point where several news outlets had to publish a factcheck for it today, while not realizing that MAGA people are the ones egging this on because it helps them sew further doubt in the 2020 results and elections in general, is fairly annoying.

one friend I know started up w/ similar shit yesterday ("something stinks about these numbers, I don't buy it!"), but thankfully that's it.

California's at 55% counted, and 7 others are anywhere between 68%-79%

I mean look, I'm suspicious too, it doesn't square at all with what we were hearing earlier in the day, it sure did feel plausible that there could be record turnout due to how insane and unpleasant Trump had gotten...but like, results are results. It's the same reaction I've had every time I've looked at the Milwaukee Bucks score this year.

Biden did not name Harris “border czar” fwiw. He tasked her with outreach to countries in Central and South America where a lot of migrants were coming from. It didn’t include a title at all, that came from Greg Abbott and right-wing media.

Not that it matters at this point, obviously.

It is both funny and predictable that people on both the left and right are pushing the “missing 15 million votes“ thing. People on the left think that it means votes somehow disappeared this year, people on the right think that it means those votes were all fake in 2020. When in reality it’s not going to be 15 million, And what it mostly means is some significant number of people just stayed home.