U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

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I had a friend who was the most radical and effective anti-nuke activist in Oregon. One of his favorite sayings was "If you keep doing was you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always got."

I suspect this embodies what a lot of 'independent' US voters have been feeling strongly. They don't like what the system has been delivering. This has been especially true since the Bush II administration, with the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, the Financial Crisis, and now the Fentanyl Crisis. They're tired of servicing the needs of the empire. They feel no obligation to globalism or to refugees. They see Ukraine as just one more Iraq. They want the US government to serve them and nobody else. To them Trump looks like he also doesn't care about "the US Role in the World" and wants to toss "World Leadership and Responsibility to Our Allies" in the trash bin.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2024 20:48 (one year ago)

There is definitely some portion of Trump supporters that is doing it to own the libs.

There is also a huge portion of Trump supporters who vote for him in spite of his act. How often do we see interviews with supporters saying, "I don't like how he acts, but I'm going to vote for him anyway."

The bottom line for democrats is that it is now obvious that running on how awful Trump and Trumpism is is a losing strategy. So what else do they have?

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 7 November 2024 20:49 (one year ago)

(posted this on bluesky yesterday but guess it's relevant here)

Listening to 1930s US radio vs 1949 US radio has been quite a thing. Before the war socialists and communists were welcome on discussion shows, by 1949 they are just The Enemy and their voices aren't heard. Despite the end of the cold war, that's still the case today, though fascism is now just fine now

John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 November 2024 20:52 (one year ago)

xpost She'll follow the Nixon playbook and run for CA governor, lose, and then be elected President in 2032.


She would probably win the governor’s race if she were the nominee …

sarahell, Thursday, 7 November 2024 20:53 (one year ago)

yeah, nixon didn't look like a proper californian - she's got the look

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 November 2024 20:55 (one year ago)

na na na na na

Kurt Dandruff (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 November 2024 20:58 (one year ago)

xpost - while some might appreciate the candor, I was once again reminded that billionaires should not exist when I read about the ones supporting Trump. a couple of them pretty much straight up said, "I can't stand him and he's going to do a lot of damage but, hey, he's going to make me significantly richer so I am supporting him"

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:11 (one year ago)

Also, GTFO Schumer with your begging texts these past two days.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:11 (one year ago)

I JUST GOT TWO OF THE DAMN THINGS

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:12 (one year ago)

"now that we failed to win, give us more money to fight"

Kurt Dandruff (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:13 (one year ago)

We've got bills!

Grape Fired At Czar From Crack Battery (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:14 (one year ago)

"alright, in this scene, I want you to portray a Democrat"

"hmm, can I get some help?"

"ah, you've got it, perfect!"

Kurt Dandruff (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:16 (one year ago)

look we can talk about the Dems' failings all we want but at the end of the day 73 million people decided they wanted more Donald Trump in their lives, something I cannot process at all given that he embodies every single negative trait that a man could possibly have...the only conclusion is people like him because he makes folks like me upset.

I promise I'll shut up about this after this post, but this is the first year in history that every single national incumbent party across the world has lost vote share. This election wasn't only about Trump, even if it should have been.

rainbow calx (lukas), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:18 (one year ago)

xp - genuine irl lols Neando, thanks I needed that today

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:19 (one year ago)

_look we can talk about the Dems' failings all we want but at the end of the day 73 million people decided they wanted more Donald Trump in their lives, something I cannot process at all given that he embodies every single negative trait that a man could possibly have...the only conclusion is people like him because he makes folks like me upset._

I promise I'll shut up about this after this post, but this is the first year in history that every single national incumbent party across the world has lost vote share. This election wasn't only about Trump, even if it should have been.


This is a good point.

sarahell, Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:21 (one year ago)

yeah, that's where i am.

treeship., Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:30 (one year ago)

All those undecided morons who keep putting the GOP back in power will be back just like in 96, 2000, 2020 in 4 years after Trump and these clowns really fxxk the economy.

Good luck on that inflation cutting the sh1t outta taxes and raising tariffs at the same time.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:38 (one year ago)

I know why this is but man is it ever deflating to hear Biden and Harris say "it'll be ok" after yelling about the end of democracy non stop for months.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:45 (one year ago)

but this is the first year in history that every single national incumbent party across the world has lost vote share. This election wasn't only about Trump, even if it should have been.

just reposted this, excellent context to fight back against the dumbass fringe lefties who are already posting "this was rigged"

sleeve, Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:46 (one year ago)

They should have STOPPED THE STEAL at about 8:30 est on Tuesday iirc

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:49 (one year ago)

I know why this is but man is it ever deflating to hear Biden and Harris say "it'll be ok" after yelling about the end of democracy non stop for months.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, November 7, 2024 4:45 PM bookmarkflaglink

I mean what can you say? "give up - it's all over, our lives are ruined"? I took it more like a 'we have each other' type statement, not literally meaning nothing bad will happen.

woulda been nice if Biden had said "yo, find the nearest Nazi. got him? punch him until his mouth looks like a Rubik's cube" though

Kurt Dandruff (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:50 (one year ago)

Not too late for Biden to say that though

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:55 (one year ago)

I mean what can you say? "give up - it's all over, our lives are ruined"?

Say the kind of things that are said in this thread. "If your mom voted for Trump, delete her number from your phone. If your co-worker wants to talk shit, catch him in the parking lot. These people have spent the last year telling us that we are their mortal enemies. Act accordingly."

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:56 (one year ago)

In other words, sound like a dumbass.

Grape Fired At Czar From Crack Battery (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:58 (one year ago)

I just got an email from Walz about 'some Senate races that still need our help'... really?

I guess grief-giving is a thing but we already gave you a cool billion

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:00 (one year ago)

The American public embraces dumbassery on every level. Did you miss the meeting on Tuesday?

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:01 (one year ago)

Maybe just one more Cornpop anecdote, one that’s relevant

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:02 (one year ago)

These people.

Democratic donor-advisor Dmitri Mehlhorn:

"The Second American Republic (1868-2024) is over."

"I’m heading back to the private sector." pic.twitter.com/bUsQbQ5L4N

— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) November 7, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:03 (one year ago)

follow the money!

sleeve, Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:05 (one year ago)

well this race proved once & for all that 21st Century polling methodology is complete shit and can now be ignored forever... Goodbye Marist, Goodbye Rasmussen... we hardly knew ya

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:06 (one year ago)

"where humanism meets generative AI"

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:07 (one year ago)

huh really? Seems like the polls were predicting this result.

Grape Fired At Czar From Crack Battery (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:07 (one year ago)

Are biden and ex-presidents gonna skip inauguration like Trump did?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:07 (one year ago)

And with that, Gavin Newsom launches his 2028 presidential campaign. https://t.co/PGXn1b0AVZ

— jordan (@JordanUhl) November 7, 2024

Grape Fired At Czar From Crack Battery (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:07 (one year ago)

Are biden and ex-presidents gonna skip inauguration like Trump did?

They absolutely should. Let him stand up there with Catturd.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:09 (one year ago)

I mean, I hope that's it. Maybe the grand lesson here is that it's only like 5-10% of the population that really follows this shit the way we do.

frogbs, Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:09 (one year ago)

huh really? Seems like the polls were predicting this result

everything was 'neck & neck' and 'too close to call' until tuesday evening, when it wasn't

the betting markets did better

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:10 (one year ago)

Not to give Newsom too much credit and we'll see what he accomplishes, but I am glad to see he's at least trying to do some pre-emptive prep work - more than Biden could fucking manage.

I'm guessing Pritzker will probably be doing the same soon, if he isn't already working at it.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:11 (one year ago)

A striking moment of self-awareness from David Brooks pic.twitter.com/E5rQdNNrf8

— Will Bunch (@Will_Bunch) November 7, 2024

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:11 (one year ago)

If this is true..

Uber's chief legal officer (who also happens to be Harris' brother-in-law) convinced Harris to stop attacking big business during the campaign, in order to get more CEOs on board. Couldn't make it up. pic.twitter.com/tYQpqV79I8

— Ben Wray (@Ben_Wray1989) November 7, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:12 (one year ago)

Jfc.

I would like at least one Democratic candidate with 10% of Trump's dngaf swagger. You don't like my rhetoric? I'll propose nationalizing Uber.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:16 (one year ago)

the campaign died due to a thousand tiny cuts like that

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:18 (one year ago)

Re Harris’s next move: I hear she has experience in the fast food industry

Prez K:

RFK, FDA. What else do I have to say?

A+

Andyhopper:

we already gave you a cool billion

Like that John Mulaney bit about college alumni fundraising: "I already gave you two hundred thousand dollars. And you _spent it already_?

abreast of what's afoot (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:19 (one year ago)

the gall to be asking for money this week

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:23 (one year ago)

That's the only gall they have.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:24 (one year ago)

that mulaney bit is one of my favorite things of all time. "I gave you $120,000 and you gave me a weird cinder block room with a Reservoir Dogs poster on it and the first real heartbreak of my life, and probably HPV"

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:24 (one year ago)

I told a friend yesterday that in a way I'm glad Obama's rhetoric for once fell completely flat.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:26 (one year ago)

No thanks Obama

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:30 (one year ago)

I would like at least one Democratic candidate with 10% of Trump's dngaf swagger. You don't like my rhetoric? I'll propose nationalizing Uber.

― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, November 7, 2024 2:16 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the campaign died due to a thousand tiny cuts like that

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)

this really sums it all up

sleeve, Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:32 (one year ago)

Akm z you told me to read Jane Austen... and I didn't.

abreast of what's afoot (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:36 (one year ago)


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