U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

the abortion ban, of course l, depends if mcconnell keeps his promise to keep the filibuster (have my doubts)

So fucking glad I was working remote yesterday, as apparently our one Trump loving co-worker brought in fucking Trump cookies yesterday.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, November 7, 2024 11:29 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

omg

I think most of the Never Trumpers are gone from the House .

that's my worry I mean, a lot of the resistance left

Our people made fun of Trump at McDonald's and riding the garbage truck and visiting a halal stand. I didn't -- I stopped doing it after 2016 because symbolism matters.

Guess what? It worked for him.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, November 7, 2024 10:47 AM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm trying to think of Democratic versions of these performative hardee-har Trump photo-ops. All I can come up with are Fetterman up on the roof with his Israeli flag and Nanci Pelosi ripping up Trump's speech.

https://open.substack.com/pub/taylorlorenz/p/why-democrats-wont-build-their-own?r=2ck8a&utm_medium=ios

Why Democrats haven’t or won’t “build “ their own Joe Rogan

I offered condolences to an American coworker earlier and the fucking finance director was like for what it was a great result! Listen you little south african shrimp I wasn't talking to you but even if I was shut the fuck up. I didn't actually say that but turned around, gave him the dirtiest look I could and put my hand out to as if to say shut up. Of course because that's not my usual style I've felt slightly ever since but fuck him.

If I have a point here it's that I don't think Americans in 2024 are particularly Evil in an exceptional way, it's just that ppl in general will go down some horrible paths once the overton window shifts enough to do so.

When this old world starts getting me down
And people are just too much for me to face
I climb way up to the top of the stairs
And push John Fetterman right clean off the roof

just so nobody takes this as centrist Democratic party defending...

...we did this same debate in 2016

herein lies the problem imo. the democratic party, and its dyed in the wool adherents, think that one day they can win this argument. maybe even with facts and logic to boot

jordan otm itt. except that thing about the rappers no one has heard of I think that was a bit overboard

Alfred, thank you.

*blinks, turns around, smiles, smile falters*

EIGHT MILLIONS DEMOCRATS DIDN’T SHOW UP?!?

Speaking as someone who depends on it for a living and for... you know, life... I'm pretty sure the ACA has actually been a giant boon to insurance companies, so I'm hoping they'll put together the necessary package of bribes and flattery to keep it in place, with just a change of name. ("Trumpcare — the greatest thing ever!")

I think most of the Never Trumpers are gone from the House .

― curmudgeon, Thursday, November 7, 2024 11:38 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not talking about them, talking about the republican reps in blue states and swing districts who had to fight for their lives this year, even during a “red wave”

xpost or Trunkcare, where they fill up the back of unmarked vehicles with a litany of pills, and you just grab what you need, no prescription required

specifically thinking (locally) of mike lawler, who represents a trumpy, but socially liberal nyc suburb and promised in his ads that he wouldn’t sell out abortion rights

The thing I keep thinking about is that if Donald Trump just comes into office and does very little, takes credit for the booming market, lets the fed continue to cut rates, etc., he'll be hailed as a hero without having to wreck the entire country. I have little confidence that he has the restraint to do this, but it would be the easiest path of least resistance and people would love him for it.

he is going to coast and let people like rfk and stephen miller run the show, which is probably worse than if he were to be heavily involved

maybe someone can tell him on 1/21/25 that it's actually 1/19/29 and he might fall for it

xp

yeah, letting those ghouls have any measure of power is not going to lead anywhere good

xp - that's my fear Neando, he only wanted this to squash his potential trials, he really won't give a fuck and will let them do the work and he'll only pop in to take credit

I think it will be like Reagan’s 2nd term where he didn’t really do much because of laziness and senility and there will eventually be hearings about something corrupt and he will ramble and say he doesn’t remember.

But it won’t be about one of the many real atrocities his administration committed like letting people die of AIDS, dismantling crucial anti-poverty programs, decimating the power of organized labor, and incarcerating black people at astronomical rates

Trump would love credit for those things

God what if JD Vance might be the voice of reason behind the scenes— “hey let’s not let Elon wreck the economy and RFK give everyone polio”

Someone hijack Biden's teleprompter

Btw...

Where the House stands now.

Republicans are projected to win or (to my eye based on expected outstanding ballots) are currently favored to win 218 seats vs. 215 for Democrats.

CA-41 and CA-45 are big question marks. Perhaps slight advantage for Rs in the latter.

Still fluid. pic.twitter.com/DP3FGgw1tg

— Adam Carlson (@admcrlsn) November 7, 2024

Homan also said anyone in the United States illegally could be kicked out. He said he would restart workplace enforcement to find people working illegally in the United States and deport them. The Biden administration ended the raids, which Homan said made it easier for employers to hire unauthorized workers, including children.

Homan and Miller were key architects of the “zero tolerance” policy that separated thousands of children from their parents in the first Trump administration

Trump is expected to move quickly to rescind Biden administration programs that have relied on executive authority to dramatically expand opportunities for migrants to live and work temporarily in the United States. More than 500,000 migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela have been allowed to enter the country lawfully under Biden, and many will be at risk of losing their legal status if Trump revokes their protections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/11/06/trump-immigration-policies/

Oh for the days of more limited Presidential power

Is he in?

*On

He was. It was performative nonsense about peaceful transition

crazy that Dems could make gains in the house

I've been reading a few books about postwar Europe over this last year and one story they keep telling is the screening of concentration camp atrocities before films in German cinemas, and the Germans there simply turning away and refusing to watch. And I just wonder, how do you take people who are complicit in these things and hold them accountable, at least to the point of having them feel their share of responsibility? Is there even any point doing so? I mean I think there is, but if it's an impossible task, maybe there isn't.

Biden address in his whispery style. Sounded like america was a horse he was about to shoot in the head.

Biden sounds like a hoarse you'd shoot in the head.

They're taking Biden to a farm upstate.

Children will feed him apple slices.

Xxxpost To that point...

My friend yesterday wrote something on social media yesterday like "All of you out there on FB today pretending today is just another day, and that nothing has happened, your silence has been noted", and as expected, the weak concern trolling came out in full force:

"If we speak up we get attacked!"

"We must end the division in this country!"

Like idk actual people put their bodies and lives on the line speaking up in the streets the last 8 years, sorry that you're so afraid of making a FB post.

(Ftr I don't really feel like policing how ppl use social media or feel anybody has an obligation to be on it, but seeing people actively post all day about everything but the election and not even throwing a bone of support to their friends in despair, then acting defensive and aggrieved when asked to speak up...I support my friend's feelings)

Also the DNC "fingers in ears" was basically a modern day version of that German movie theater scenario

Biden like Owen Wilson in Royal Tenembaums.

Wiiiildcat

fuck making a Facebook post

I mean...sure.

I am so sad about this election...please donate to my mental health fundraiser

Here are some pics of my dogs looking sad too

Dems incredibly good at getting Likes (and donations); not so good at getting votes.

We estimate that 42% of young voters (+/- 1%), ages 18-29, cast ballots in the 2024 presidential election, a lower youth turnout than in 2020—when our early estimate put youth turnout above 50%—and approximately on par with the 2016 presidential election.

We also estimate that youth voter turnout in battleground states may have been much higher: 50% on aggregate in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Young voters cast 14% of all ballots in the 2024 election, according to the National Election Pool exit poll conducted by Edison Research. While this number may be adjusted in the coming days, and other data sources may show different numbers, this 2024 youth share of the vote was also lower than in 2020 (17%) and to 2016 (19%) based on the sane data source.

https://circle.tufts.edu/2024-election

curmudgeon at 10:41 7 Nov 24

https://open.substack.com/pub/taylorlorenz/p/why-democrats-wont-build-their-own?r=2ck8a&utm_medium=ios

Why Democrats haven’t or won’t “build “ their own Joe Rogan

This is smart about the differences in the support given to influencers on the right and the left. As Lorenz points out, a big part of it is money; wealthy Dem donors aren't going to bankroll "leftist content creators who support policies that are completely at odds with what billionaires want." But some of it, if I'm not extrapolating too much, also seems to be about a general distrust among establishment Dems of the grassroots sentiment on the left, not wanting to cede messaging control to people who aren't party loyalists.

Well, yeah. Look what happened to the GOP establishment when they gave their messaging over to talk radio hosts and web crazies.

No one has to post for anyone, people who believe in this sort of economy of support and posts and likes are utterly deranged.

I have plenty to lose because of this result, and the sky-is-falling-I-am-moving-to-Canada schtick is repulsive and narcissistic. Buck up, find your people, join a mutual aid org, tell people you love them. That’s what’s important, and those sorts of actions are where real change comes from anyway.

Love when stuff I post in the middle of what I said gets ignored

(Ftr I don't really feel like policing how ppl use social media or feel anybody has an obligation to be on it, but seeing people actively post all day about everything but the election and not even throwing a bone of support to their friends in despair, then acting defensive and aggrieved when asked to speak up...I support my friend's feelings)

Do me the favor of at least assuming I haven't conflated social media with actual activism folks