U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

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Who could have predicted

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:32 (one year ago)

Hi y'all. This is grim. Thanks for being here, collectively. That's about all I've got.

the last visible dot (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:34 (one year ago)

Thank YOU, DC.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:34 (one year ago)

Hey, all. Slipped in and out of sleep.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:36 (one year ago)

can't sleep, neither could my dad... ugh

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:38 (one year ago)

I envy everyone still asleep.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:38 (one year ago)

I suppose the first question to ask is, how did the party get its polling wrong? What was this vibes shit?

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:00 (one year ago)

we need to end our obsession with polls which are no longer valid. they don’t mean anything when the margins are going to be like this and no one answers their phones

the one bright side I can think of, and this is a stretch, is with trump in power some democrats who’ve held back on israel/gaza might find there’s no longer any political reason to be shy about criticizing the country’s support of israel

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:06 (one year ago)

polling overall seems to have been relatively good this time, better than 2020

but idk what the dems were doing strategy-wise since like september, how did they possibly think 'never trump republican who loves bush-era republicans' was the key demographic to focus on for the last two months of the campaign, what could possibly have backed that up

ufo, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:06 (one year ago)

Look at these endorsements! How could they fail with Swifties on board?

this is UNBELIEVABLE ahahahahahaaa pic.twitter.com/sZrJVVq9Si

— endthewest (@bookdellector) November 6, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:09 (one year ago)

It pains me to say it, but maybe we just couldn’t have won.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:14 (one year ago)

feel so rotten about this. so sorry to all of you. so sorry to everyone who worked hard on their end.

Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:15 (one year ago)

I know the Swiftie / Beyonce factor is probably more negligible than we would like to believe, but I wonder what the polling data is on people 18-25. Judging by social media (I know, I know), it seemed like young folks were more mobilized than I've seen them in my lifetime. Did this really not make a dent? I guess like most of you I'm just baffled by this whole thing and flailing looking for answers

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:24 (one year ago)

what I've heard is it's once again the Olds that have let us down (nb none of the Olds on ILX)

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:30 (one year ago)

cool woke young people may well be outnumbered by the kids of Trumpers, kids of old-fashioned Republicans, and junior fash young people radicalized by right-wing YouTube etc.

the last visible dot (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:30 (one year ago)

Exurb-dwellers (white flighters) are mostly quiet Republicans, with a few blowhards in the mix.

guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:32 (one year ago)

This has, so far, been a century of being disappointed periodically by half the country, but also recognizing in every case that I shouldn’t be surprised in the least.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:33 (one year ago)

In 2016 it was very much: I do not understand these people and am not of them.

Today it is very much am I even from this planet? I feel like a person completely out of time and history, as I imagine a lot of people opening this thread this morning will.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:35 (one year ago)

I went from dread to resignation real fast. Not sure how to feel right now— I have to go teach two classes and then work at my second job til 10pm.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:35 (one year ago)

Joe Rogan gets over 11 million listeners per episode. He (and the rest of them) has been shouting that Kamala wants to censor the internet for months now. They are also turning P Diddy's parties into Epstein-meets-pizzagate this week.

John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:37 (one year ago)

I went to sleep at 11 or so with things looking not great so I am not surprised she lost.

Dems absolutely need to go back to the drawing board because anti-Racism/anti-Fascism + country club Republicanism isn't a winning strategy.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:42 (one year ago)

Maybe they should try some strong left wing politics? We’ll never know

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:47 (one year ago)

running in pure opposition to the republicans seems to work ok against an unpopular incumbent republican but works much less well when the dem candidate is closely associated with the unpopular incumbent dem and does nothing to distance themselves

there were glimpses at harris having an actual vision (legalising weed! expanding the child tax credit!) but it never seemed to be a focus of the campaign & she did nothing to escape biden's baggage

ufo, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:53 (one year ago)

Eight years ago, I had the disposable income to denote to a bunch of organizations to mitigate the damage. Today I do not.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:00 (one year ago)

What orgs? Are they in the pocket of the Dem establishment?

Honestly, I think that the Dems need to completely rethink their strategy, run on popular progressive policies that many people agree on, and do it loudly. This centrist corporate shit, with no conception as of how normal peoples’ lives are on the ground, must fucking go.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:07 (one year ago)

Table: ALCU, SNCC, Planned Parenthood, the PA food bank (that’s where I lived at the time, as of right now I don’t know if I ever even wanna drive into that state ever again).

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:10 (one year ago)

Ugh I can’t spell today it seems

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:11 (one year ago)

This centrist corporate shit, with no conception as of how normal peoples’ lives are on the ground, must fucking go.

watch as most of them decide they didn't pivot to the right enough, it's going to be bleak

ufo, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:15 (one year ago)

hi folks. i think this ends my relationship with the internet

ivy., Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:18 (one year ago)

I meant NAACP, not SNCC. My brain is fried.

Let’s all hang on today, alright?

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:19 (one year ago)

it seemed like young folks were more mobilized than I've seen them in my lifetime.

i said this a couple of days ago but my 13-yo's tiktok feed was filled with pro-trump maga stuff with thousands of supportive comments and millions of likes, and he is not a maga dude at all. however he is "young" "white" and "male" so the algo appears to think this is what he wants

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:25 (one year ago)

Gen Z is way more conservative than we thought I think

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:27 (one year ago)

Somehow mine is too. So many MAGA TTs with literally THOUSANDS of supportive comments from young people. So many.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:28 (one year ago)

Random thought, but it feels like any kind of health is now nothing to play with: physical health, financial health, mental health.

bratwurst autumn (Eazy), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:33 (one year ago)

i feel like my brain has been invaded by paranoid thoughts i don’t want to be in there, like, oh, idk, what if i’m forcibly detransitioned. probably won’t happen. but there it is in my head

anyway. i love you, whoever reads this

ivy., Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:35 (one year ago)

We love you too, Ivy.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:36 (one year ago)

yep

imago, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:36 (one year ago)

BBC exit polling seemed to show it was Gen X that really voted for Trump

Alba, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:36 (one year ago)

Fucking hell.

Andy K, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:36 (one year ago)

Sorry, ivy, please take care of yourself.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:38 (one year ago)

Here's the demographic table, with all the exit poll caveats.

https://i.imgur.com/36KQSUi.jpeg

Alba, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:38 (one year ago)

Sorry, xposted without seeing ivy's post ❤️

Alba, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:40 (one year ago)

Gen Z is way more conservative than we thought I think


This has a strong gender split iirc due to the fact there’s nothing as radicalising and successful as the manosphere. TikTok people seem like fucking followers, useful fodder for propaganda in any case. Saw it happen in real time on a minute scale during Depp-Heard trial, when you’d see videos of people mocking Heard’s testimony of being raped on there. Not shocked it’s that kind of cesspool at all. Twitter is also a cesspool but at least even in its heyday it simply wasn’t used by that many people.

gyac, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:41 (one year ago)

Yeah I knew I had seen the gender split written up. This is relatively recent but I’d be shocked if the actual breakdown was much different because this pattern was noticeable in the UK elections too.

Young women said they’ll vote for Harris over Trump by a 33-point margin. Young men were essentially even, with Harris having a 2-point lead.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna177155

gyac, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:45 (one year ago)

My sister and her boyfriend are in Spain or Portugal right now. I wonder if they're looking into staying.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:47 (one year ago)

Love to ufo and ivy and everyone at the sharp end of this shit.

gyac, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:49 (one year ago)

It sucks.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:50 (one year ago)

To even speculate about how much my family doesn't see me or my nieces just chills me.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:51 (one year ago)

100 per cent afraid that they’re coming for gay marriage, and know that the ACA is doomed, which means I will be without insurance, which is um… not great for a cancer survivor with a genetic cancer marker. also i am not just gay, but married to a non-white person.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:54 (one year ago)

but in the meantime, a poem from Assata:

AFFIRMATION
I believe in living.
I believe in the spectrum of Beta days and Gamma people.
I believe in sunshine.
In windmills and waterfalls, tricycles and rocking chairs.
And i believe that seeds grow into sprouts.
And sprouts grow into trees.
I believe in the magic of the hands.
And in the wisdom of the eyes.
I believe in rain and tears.
And in the blood of infinity.
I believe in life.
And i have seen the death parade march through the torso of the earth, sculpting mud bodies in its path.
I have seen the destruction of the daylight, and seen bloodthirsty maggots prayed to and saluted.
I have seen the kind become the blind and the blind become the bind in one easy lesson.
I have walked on cut glass.
I have eaten crow and blunder bread and breathed the stench of indifference.
I have been locked by the lawless.
Handcuffed by the haters.
Gagged by the greedy.
And, if i know any thing at all, it's that a wall is just a wall and nothing more at all.
It can be broken down.
I believe in living.
I believe in birth.
I believe in the sweat of love and in the fire of truth.
And i believe that a lost ship, steered by tired, seasick sailors, can still be guided home to port.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 12:55 (one year ago)


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