U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

yeah it just seems like people like trump

i think it's less this than just people really didn't like the biden admin

Newsom’s not digging his own grave though. He’ll be fine (politically and otherwise) no matter what. There are no consequences for party hacks (of either party) when they eat shit!

yeah it just seems like people like trump

i think it's less this than just people really didn't like the biden admin

― ufo, Tuesday, November 5, 2024 9:51 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

eh potato potato imo

I think inflation was too big to overcome despite the resilient economy. People feel stretched thin and Biden/Harris never made a case that could convince you things were great actually.

i haven't watched a lick of TV and checked the NYT webpage maybe 5 times today. coming here sporadically has been my saving grace because if i'd gone down my usual routine the past few elections i would've lost my mind. thanks, ilx!

Agree with that the most. It's always about money.

Xpost

xps and harris did nothing really to differentiate herself from biden

The people didn't like the trump admin four years ago either...I guess people are finding it all very dissatisfying.

Right, I think they will once again be unhappy 4 years from now. Maybe things just suck.

ugh wish I could've least woken up two hours later than I did

BREAKING: Arizona approves constitutional right to abortion, overturning state's 15-week ban

— BNO News (@BNONews) November 6, 2024

is it too late for the traditional blue shift after the usual red mirage? (Republicans always have the early lead because the last districts that get counted are the big urban blue ones)

Afraid not.

Well, the read is very clear here. Barring a massive error at this point, Donald Trump is on track to win the presidency, and likely by a wider margin than in his 2016 win.

And he’s going to do it while likely winning the popular vote, with historic margins in safe blue states.

— Lakshya Jain (@lxeagle17) November 6, 2024

I’m assuming the networks are just exercising caution due to how unexpected the returns have been, but this is over

One striking factoid I've seen floated about in the last few hours is that Biden's job approval rating is at like 42%, which is where Trump's was for the second half of his term and at the last election, but Trump's retrospective job approval rating is 50%.

8% of the population have forgotten that they thought he was doing a bad job 4 years ago, or have decided it wasn't so bad.

Of course the irony is that (unless Trump actually follows through on tariff policy) the incoming administration will likely benefit from the ongoing improvement in the economy, just as the first Trump administration benefited from the slow Obama recovery cresting right as Trump took office.

It places me in the invidious position of not wanting Trump to actually get away with smashing the US and global economy, but also recognising that to the extent he fails or chooses not to, he and republicans will be rewarded by a public who will not realise that the hard work on inflation, interest rates etc. happened under the previous administration.

Yeah. Still better not to create global havoc.

I'm wondering if cybercurrency's not as big a threat as tariffs in terms of global instability. Presumably Trump will supercharge crypto, especially if he can make a lot of money doing it.

Yeah, I just don't understand crypto enough to guess what effect that would have

I legit think Harris is falling short of Biden's margins because Trump was the president during a catastrophic 2020—the total clown of a man who made everything worse and had to go—and in 2024 voters think Biden was already president in 2020.

Trump double digits gains in Manhattan

Yeah, I just don't understand crypto enough to guess what effect that would have

I don't either except in the scams we've already seen with it. But I assume the real game for crypto is to get public money into it, or retirement accounts, those great big pools.

Anyway just one likely catastrophe among many.

(I get thats from a low starting point which distorts the percentage, but the fact there are gains at all)

2020 was close, but Biden was basically giftwrapped the presidency due to circumstances. In 2024, it may have always been impossible to repeat because people are fuckin selfish.

I’m just so fucking sad right now.

I don’t mean this as doom post, but I think maybe it’s time we stop pretending this country is on the cusp of getting better. Not meaning we give up, by any means, but facing the paradigm of a country that is going to remain misogynistic, racist and hateful. There isn’t going to be some massive generational shift of youth “just around the corner” that is going to save us. We need to figure out how to make shit better, safer and more inclusive exclusive of electoral politics. I don’t know what that looks like, but it’s clear that counting on the better angels of this country is not the answer.

I don’t know. I’m just so fucking sad.

I’m so sorry if I gave anyone hope. This country is a miserable pile of trash. I don’t know where we go from here.

I’m so sorry if I gave anyone hope. This country is a miserable pile of trash. I don’t know where we go from here.

Jesus Christ. I’m so sorry for you guys. This is nightmarish.

i feel really lonely right now.

same, friend

It’s truly the fucking end of the country. If you can get out, DO SO

Sad to say but I'm taking consolation in time going faster at my age, and four years doesn't seem too long to wait for the end of this.

Sad for Jimmy Carter.

<3 to American friends on here.

Thanks buddy

Legit serious question for anyone who knows: is the ACA in peril if the House flips blue? I'm hopeful they can stop the inevitable repeal attempts, but I can't remember how many hurdles a repeal requires.

I'd like to stay alive, plz.

beamish, please. you aren’t helping. “getting out” is a real possibility for only the tiniest percentage of people. you got out, bully for you. now log off.

is harris losing the entire fucking blue wall are you kidding me?

cryptocurrency is not a risk for a global financial crisis unless trump somehow manages to make bitcoin a load-bearing part of the economy instead of just a stupid scam, and i don't think he cares enough to do that

Only just squeaking through in New York, Jeez

is the ACA in peril if the House flips blue?

not unless some dems cave on it

Even with a billion dollar war chest, she couldn’t pull this off. Amazing

It really drives home the fact that everything we knew about how to run a winning campaign is wrong

“I just don’t know if I can function in a world where he’s President again.”

It’s truly the fucking end of the country. If you can get out, DO SO

― beamish13, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 bookmarkflaglink

This is shortsighted. If Trump imposes Tariffs he could screw a lot of Western economies.

Please check the business pages in your local newspaper tonight.

It's all new territory now... I give a lot of credence to a global shift to the right for all the usual reasons in that thread.

It really drives home the fact that everything we knew about how to run a winning campaign is wrong

idk harris went from having a lot of momentum early on when she was a relative unknown, but then emphasised she was a continuation of the biden admin (which is very unpopular), pivoted to the right and focused a lot of energy on endorsements from bush-era republicans who no one likes, instead of offering up a real vision. felt like both sides were actively trying to lose but harris lost because she was the incumbent (essentially)

been strategising with a (romantic) couple of trans friends (one US one UK) for the last couple of hours what to do and only just now the UK one has revealed she has an Irish passport (the US one is Irish by descent too). obviously they should marry and move there right

It's over

Harris never firmly defined herself as being anything beyond the establishment centrist she is

undisputed stupidest goddamn country on the planet

Looking at the States that are left, this is a blow out.

UFO otm. Harris didn't do enough to differentiate herself from Biden (who ofc would've lost by even more).