U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

Fuck.

Still a bit early for an autopsy but when analyzing the systemic bias of the voting public etc it’s worth considering this is all happening in the context of factors like the recent SCOTUS decision okaying Virginia’s removal of a significant number of voters from the rolls.

In 2016 the Trump campaign was in disarray and had no ground game (Democrats were off the record bragging about their operation and laughing at GOP incompetence). Maybe those things… don’t really matter in the way political heads want them to matter.

yeah it just seems like people like trump

NYT has trump at 92%

This loss was only possible because Democrats & Republicans came together to greenlight the deregulation of crypto so that the Wall Street-backed cryptocurrency industry would spend unlimited sums in our elections.

Crypto spent $40M again Sherrod Brown because he wouldn't. https://t.co/AsMhvlw6M2

— usamah andrabi (@usamahandrabi) November 6, 2024

The air has been let out of the balloon

These people in flyover country just voted themselves into oblivion. It’s like voting for Reagan when he destroyed their farm subsidies

yeah it just seems like people like trump

this really is what makes it hard. losing elections, this happens. losing to the guy who has no redeeming qualities at all, that hits you right in your faith-in-humanity

I’m sure the DNC will find a way to blame progressives again

Because Trump was a TV show host. They like TV. Hence, they trust man on TV who echoes their shit beliefs and converses in a sub-5th grade level

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I spent much of the past 90 minutes listening to the PBS panel and watched in real time as their wise pundits, including Brooks and a couple of political consultants start to spin out a skein of conventional wisdom about why voters are voting for Trump - and it was the same economic populist bullshit the NYT kept selling us after 2016. If Trump wins, look to hear a lot more of that, if you can stand it.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 05:14

And frankly most of the voting public couldn’t give less of a shit what PBS or the NYT says at this point. Social media is such a big factor.

There’s a similar blinkered take in analysis of online disinformation, even when the reporting comes from a source like Teh Grauniad they seem to defer to the media corps or hedge their bets — “well we can’t really say for sure if state actors were involved so idk”. Meanwhile Gavin Newsome is palling around with big tech executives, like you know you’re kind of digging your own grave there right?

*Newsom

Newsom has always been a two-faced asshole

yeah it just seems like people like trump

i think it's less this than just people really didn't like the biden admin

Newsom’s not digging his own grave though. He’ll be fine (politically and otherwise) no matter what. There are no consequences for party hacks (of either party) when they eat shit!

yeah it just seems like people like trump

i think it's less this than just people really didn't like the biden admin

― ufo, Tuesday, November 5, 2024 9:51 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

eh potato potato imo

I think inflation was too big to overcome despite the resilient economy. People feel stretched thin and Biden/Harris never made a case that could convince you things were great actually.

i haven't watched a lick of TV and checked the NYT webpage maybe 5 times today. coming here sporadically has been my saving grace because if i'd gone down my usual routine the past few elections i would've lost my mind. thanks, ilx!

Agree with that the most. It's always about money.

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xps and harris did nothing really to differentiate herself from biden

The people didn't like the trump admin four years ago either...I guess people are finding it all very dissatisfying.

Right, I think they will once again be unhappy 4 years from now. Maybe things just suck.

ugh wish I could've least woken up two hours later than I did

BREAKING: Arizona approves constitutional right to abortion, overturning state's 15-week ban

— BNO News (@BNONews) November 6, 2024

is it too late for the traditional blue shift after the usual red mirage? (Republicans always have the early lead because the last districts that get counted are the big urban blue ones)

Afraid not.

Well, the read is very clear here. Barring a massive error at this point, Donald Trump is on track to win the presidency, and likely by a wider margin than in his 2016 win.

And he’s going to do it while likely winning the popular vote, with historic margins in safe blue states.

— Lakshya Jain (@lxeagle17) November 6, 2024

I’m assuming the networks are just exercising caution due to how unexpected the returns have been, but this is over

One striking factoid I've seen floated about in the last few hours is that Biden's job approval rating is at like 42%, which is where Trump's was for the second half of his term and at the last election, but Trump's retrospective job approval rating is 50%.

8% of the population have forgotten that they thought he was doing a bad job 4 years ago, or have decided it wasn't so bad.

Of course the irony is that (unless Trump actually follows through on tariff policy) the incoming administration will likely benefit from the ongoing improvement in the economy, just as the first Trump administration benefited from the slow Obama recovery cresting right as Trump took office.

It places me in the invidious position of not wanting Trump to actually get away with smashing the US and global economy, but also recognising that to the extent he fails or chooses not to, he and republicans will be rewarded by a public who will not realise that the hard work on inflation, interest rates etc. happened under the previous administration.

Yeah. Still better not to create global havoc.

I'm wondering if cybercurrency's not as big a threat as tariffs in terms of global instability. Presumably Trump will supercharge crypto, especially if he can make a lot of money doing it.

Yeah, I just don't understand crypto enough to guess what effect that would have

I legit think Harris is falling short of Biden's margins because Trump was the president during a catastrophic 2020—the total clown of a man who made everything worse and had to go—and in 2024 voters think Biden was already president in 2020.

Trump double digits gains in Manhattan

Yeah, I just don't understand crypto enough to guess what effect that would have

I don't either except in the scams we've already seen with it. But I assume the real game for crypto is to get public money into it, or retirement accounts, those great big pools.

Anyway just one likely catastrophe among many.

(I get thats from a low starting point which distorts the percentage, but the fact there are gains at all)

2020 was close, but Biden was basically giftwrapped the presidency due to circumstances. In 2024, it may have always been impossible to repeat because people are fuckin selfish.

I’m just so fucking sad right now.

I don’t mean this as doom post, but I think maybe it’s time we stop pretending this country is on the cusp of getting better. Not meaning we give up, by any means, but facing the paradigm of a country that is going to remain misogynistic, racist and hateful. There isn’t going to be some massive generational shift of youth “just around the corner” that is going to save us. We need to figure out how to make shit better, safer and more inclusive exclusive of electoral politics. I don’t know what that looks like, but it’s clear that counting on the better angels of this country is not the answer.

I don’t know. I’m just so fucking sad.

I’m so sorry if I gave anyone hope. This country is a miserable pile of trash. I don’t know where we go from here.

I’m so sorry if I gave anyone hope. This country is a miserable pile of trash. I don’t know where we go from here.

Jesus Christ. I’m so sorry for you guys. This is nightmarish.

i feel really lonely right now.

same, friend

It’s truly the fucking end of the country. If you can get out, DO SO

Sad to say but I'm taking consolation in time going faster at my age, and four years doesn't seem too long to wait for the end of this.

Sad for Jimmy Carter.

<3 to American friends on here.

Thanks buddy

Legit serious question for anyone who knows: is the ACA in peril if the House flips blue? I'm hopeful they can stop the inevitable repeal attempts, but I can't remember how many hurdles a repeal requires.

I'd like to stay alive, plz.

beamish, please. you aren’t helping. “getting out” is a real possibility for only the tiniest percentage of people. you got out, bully for you. now log off.

is harris losing the entire fucking blue wall are you kidding me?

cryptocurrency is not a risk for a global financial crisis unless trump somehow manages to make bitcoin a load-bearing part of the economy instead of just a stupid scam, and i don't think he cares enough to do that

Only just squeaking through in New York, Jeez