U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

It is perfectly understandable - so no one needs to pretend that the game is to make politicians better after you have no power over them through the collective energy of harsh slams.

It’s not even a Rep or Senator who needs your vote until the end of time and might get primaried at some point. Unless Kamala’s brain starts going on the fritz like Joe’s she is guaranteed that second nomination - and the Democrats would have stuck it out with Joe up against anyone but Trump.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-biden-harris-curse-tucker-carlson-b2639640.html
Former President Donald Trump launched a profanity-laden attack on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, calling the president a “stupid bastard” and the vice president a “sleazebag.”

He just doesnt care anymore does he?

Since he won't say it: like myself, Milo is a lefty millennial in Texas, so his votes for anything but maybe some very local offices have never counted for anything at all so far in his lifetime.

No, it's the only pragmatic option.

What's pragmatic about it? College kids were getting beaten by cops protesting genocide while Democrats collectively sided with the genocidaires (and the cops) and Israel policy hasn't moved one micrometer in the run-up to the most important election of our lives.

If you've given your vote to Harris and you're guaranteed to give it to her again and you're guaranteed to give it to every Democrat who runs for office in between... what is the mechanism by which you think these protests will force the politicians being protested to change?

It took a summer of sustained insurrection - under a Republican President - to get Democrats to kinda sorta move to the left on policing and police violence and then they wound up with "shoot em in the knee" Biden and are still pouring money into the pigs' coffers and... cheering on the pigs beating college kids for protesting genocide.

xp - and I'm not telling anyone to not vote. I cannot imagine caring if anyone else votes. The idea, however, that a captured group of voters can then sway policy through writing critical articles is so obviously not reality. We already lived through peaceful protest under a Democratic President being met repeatedly with state violence and nothing changed. How is that going to play different after they don't need your votes?

Protest against people you put in power will never have an impact unless there's a chance you might take them out of power. You don't vote for 'the people you want to protest,' you voted for their policy.

honestly, i agree with milo. i voted for Harris despite her stance on Gaza, not because i am deluded enough to think she or any Dem politician will stop the flow of AIPAC money to their coffers. these people are perfectly fine with aiding and abetting genocide now— thinking that they can be swayed after more than a year of what Israel has been doing is, frankly, naïve in the extreme. But that’s Quakerism for you.

Polls polls polls

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/poll-shows-israelis-massively-favor-trump-over-harris-in-us-election

(I write that as someone partially raised in a Quaker meeting, fwiw)

from the Las Vegas Sun piece shared by unperson:

When he does appear publicly, Trump struggles to complete sentences or sustain coherent thoughts, and has shown a pronounced difficulty concentrating and a tendency to repeat himself, sometimes within the same sentence.

At a recent rally in New Hampshire, for example, Trump began to discuss infrastructure and wound up segueing into a disjointed monologue about loyalty and perceived injustices against him, ending with a bewildering comment about windmills causing cancer.

in other words... a speech by Donald Trump? to be clear, I'm very glad to see it getting called out in print but jesus it's been nine solid years of this! obvious to anyone actually watching his speeches or reading the raw transcripts (who was the reporter in 2016 that used to post highlighted snippets on Twitter?)!

he is obviously in massive decline physically and cognitively, but imo the new part is that he sounds wheezy and looks glassy-eyed, not that he's stringing together random grievances, conspiracy theories, slurs and misunderstood news snippets. that's who h is! his entire political career has been as a walking churning Deep Dream of the conservative media sphere. every single ilxor had this sorted out two presidential terms ago; maybe our nation's most penetrating political analysts could have clocked this slightly sooner? to be fair i guess they were too busy poring over the exit polls of individual imaginary Midwestern diners.

this generation of college students is the most hyper aware and left in their political leanings that i have ever met, and i have been teaching college kids for a decade. you have no idea what you’re talking about :-)

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 November 2024 bookmarkflaglink

I like this clear piece from The Nation's interns on their non-endorsement of Kamala, in opposition to the Nation's main editorial board.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/kamala-harris-counter-endorsement/

Obviously this is almost nobody's politics here.

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The Access Hollywood tape came out eight years ago. An 18-year-old adult would've been 10 in 2016 and, exceptions noted, not following politics like ILX nerds. I'm surprised we have to stress this.

fp’d dandy don. i too am sick of having th same discussion over and over again, but that was gross

Totally obnoxious.

That piece in the Nation was literally the same point over and over again until it ran out of gas after almost 2000 words.

It actually wasn't. The connections between foreign and domestic policy were well made.

Every paragraph but two note the Gaza/Palestine/Israel issue and the connections to foreign/domestic policy were only in the context of that conflict.

As you noted, that article reflects almost nobody's politics here (which doesn't disqualify it for me personally) but it's drudgery to read just the same. Not worth 2000 words.

Its worth more than 2000 words, and certainly more than whatever you are spewing out. You can only see (and be bored by) the word "Gaza" over and again because you don't care, and it disqualifies it for you. Even if you deny it your reaction says otherwise.

I read that piece a few days ago and knew someone would get pissy at it if I posted it here. As expected.

It was a chore to read because it's dogmatic and boring. You got pissy because I pointed that out.

Being flippant about Gaza says something about a person.

I am not the only one who has noticed your rotten attitude xp

Maybe I should have been more clear. My friend who was saying "You're not voting for who you support, you're voting for who you want to be protesting against" was NOT saying she thought that was going to be an effective way of changing United States policy towards Israel. She does not. She means that given what she takes to be the certainty she's going to be protesting US policy, she would rather have the President who is not going to order her shot in the street.

I should say that she also thinks a Harris administration vs a Trump administration is a real material difference for trans people and women in the US in the immediate term.

also one would do a lot for climate and the other has plans to make it much much worse which seems like a big deal if you don't like international conflict

the climate will almost certainly continue to deteriorate under either candidate

speaking of cognitive decline

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— Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) November 2, 2024

fp’d dandy don.

― hott ogo (voodoo chili), Saturday, November 2, 2024 8:25 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

same

when hasn't Donald Trump been in cognitive decline?

he was so much more eloquent on the grab 'em by the pussy tape

are you guys saying theres no difference between trump now and two cycles ago cause you should go back and watch some tape its pretty striking, if youre just saying hes always been fucked in the head well fine

At the end of June, in the afterglow of a debate performance that would ultimately prompt President Joe Biden to end his campaign for reelection, Donald Trump startled his aides by announcing that he’d come up with a new nickname for his opponent.

“The guy’s a retard. He’s retarded. I think that’s what I’ll start calling him,” Trump declared aboard his campaign plane, en route to a rally that evening, according to three people who heard him make the remarks: “Retarded Joe Biden.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/trump-2024-campaign-lewandowski-conway/680456/

are you guys saying theres no difference between trump now and two cycles ago cause you should go back and watch some tape its pretty striking, if youre just saying hes always been fucked in the head well fine

― lag∞n

He's fucked in the head. But, yeah, if you watch a clip from him recorded in 1999 or even 2011 he's in full command of subjects, verbs, and objects.

nah I agree with you and I meant that sincerely at least on the Access Hollywood tape he was able to stay on the same topic for a minute

the rate that he's declined over the last couple months especially really is something though, he's got 10 more events over the next 3 days, idk how its possible but there's a good chance things get even stranger

honestly feel like it would be better for his campaign to just cancel them all. this shit cannot possibly be helping him. good thing his campaign is run by total dipshits who decided to put him in solid blue Virginia in November

wait so that video lagoon posted was trump miming a blowjob ??

Adding new moves to the double handjob dance

how do I know when *I* have cognitive decline

deepfake creators must be pissed that trump is out there fellating microphones and looking like a blow-up sex doll in official Getty photos

yeah wild stuff im not sure why he was doing it all the clips i found were cut the same as that one

even the president of the United States sometimes must be able to stand and make blow job gestures.

guess he was mad at the mic stand

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Hey just in case you went to bed at a normal time, last night Trump got so mad about a microphone stand issue at a rally that he pretended to give it a blowjob

xp tbf that would have been my sole debate strategy against donald trump

yes that is a satisfying explanation lmao

here's a longer clip

What is happening pic.twitter.com/YPM8eMuIaL

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 2, 2024

from what I can see he spent a large portion of the rally whining about the mic, talking about how much he wanted to beat up the sound guys and how he was gonna stiff them on the bill. you know, really firing up the working class. once again you could clearly see people leaving about half way through.

we watched Kamala's rally in West Allis and it was really good actually, crowd on their feet the whole time, cheering every 15 seconds or so, she came off real charismatic and confident, maybe not quite at Obama levels but she's definitely better at this than Hillary or Biden were

i dont think i can ever remember such a stark contrast like this, in 2016 Trump's rallies at least had some enthusiasm and more measured insanity about them, people were so fired up at those that they were beating up protestors in the stands, now he can't even get people to stay the whole time, if this turns out to be the winning campaign I'm going to check myself into the mental hospital and introduce myself to the millions of crazy folks that are getting sent to us from every other country in the world

from that atlantic article theres a vance sidekick who the campaign higher ups hate a lot

One staffer in particular—a young activist named Alex Bruesewitz—helped convince Vance and his team that this was an opportunity to put his stamp on the campaign. Vance agreed. “Reports now show that people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn’t be in this country,” the senator posted on X, catching the Trump campaign’s leaders entirely off guard.

...

In truth, some of Trump’s senior staff hadn’t actually watched Hinchcliffe’s set. The Garden was a labyrinth of security checkpoints and political processions, and the event had barely been under way when he spoke. Now they were racing to catch up with the damage—and rewinding the clock to figure out how Hinchcliffe had ended up onstage in the first place.

It didn’t take long to get to the answer: Alex Bruesewitz.

We will have an answer next week, but Vance sure seems like one of the all time worst VP picks, sub Sarah Palin perhaps.

A hopey thread about Ga. voting

Georgia's early voting has ended, and from an analytical standpoint, every metric I'd want to see for a Harris victory is present.

Let's break down why. 🍑

— Data&Politics | Blue Georgia 🏳️‍🌈 (@dataandpolitics) November 2, 2024

def an interesting thing that they picked him cause hes young and wired in with the new wave of gop insiders but did not consider that the whole crew is repulsive psycho freaks xp

PredictIt flipped to Kamala over the last 24 hours

the Atlantic article is great, all those people love telling the media everything

we love to see the backstabbing starting early lol

The thing with Vance is he’s such a beta toady if Trump dies in office I don’t see the party rallying around him at all