U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

Oh and also I talked to one Puerto Rican voter and.... she was aware of what was said at Madison Square Garden

My wife is canvassing outside Milwaukee tomorrow, I am canvassing around Madison on Monday, I will report back.

the Access Hollywood tape is trending on TikTok, where some zoomers are hearing it for the first time: https://archive.ph/VZtRZ

This week, many said on the social network they were shocked by the former president’s words and confused why the episode wasn’t a dealbreaker in 2016.

“I don’t think any of my friends had heard it,” said Kate Sullivan, a 21-year-old student in Ohio who heard the tape for the first time on her TikTok For You feed this week. “We all felt equally shocked.”

Did people know about the tape before they voted in 2016? she asked a Post reporter.

Yes, the tape came out before Election Day.

“I just recently got into politics,” she said. “The fact that people knew about this, and he still won, is pretty wild to me.”

“Damn, the recent past was crazy, bro”

I like the idea of these kids giving their elders shit for voting this maniac into the presidency though, gonna be some intense holiday dinners

yeah I agree that's a really hard thing to explain

"wait is this country completely fucked?"

*reporter pulling on their collar*

"Well, you see, Kate, Secretary Clinton didn't use dual factor authentication, so both candidates had real flaws"

Lol

Cardi B is going off right now in Wisconsin.

Someone should post the clip of him mocking a disabled reporter on Tiktok, the new voters need to see that... I'm still shocked that wasn't the end of him...

Imagine being 13 in 2008 and not being aware of that. Either you’re Amish or you’re a fucking idiot

Meant 2016

cmon give a 13 year old a break they were prob busy with pokeman or whatever

Imagine being 13 in 2008 and not being aware of that. Either you’re Amish or you’re a fucking idiot

― beamish13, Friday, November 1, 2024 7:17 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

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they were playing...minecraft. they weren't watching the news.

they were all about super meat boy not trump clips. actually i have no idea what they were about but it wasn't trump clips.

Jesus, I apologize for having some faith that there are a few young people who are somewhat aware of notable events in the world

Because mocking people with disabilities continues to never be taboo in America. This piece of human excrement just called Harris “retarded”, and gets zero pushback.

this generation of college students is the most hyper aware and left in their political leanings that i have ever met, and i have been teaching college kids for a decade. you have no idea what you’re talking about :-)

I absolutely do know, as I am, unfortunately, a secondary teacher. At least until we achieve AGI and none of us are needed

you seem miserable. good luck.

I think many of us here were bright young kids who were unusually interested in current events long before we could vote, but not everyone is like that. And that’s okay.

yeah i mean being a 13 year old anarchist brat didn’t make me a lot of friends, just seems insane and frankly bizarre to call children idiots about current events. of course they are, they’re children!

xp and here’s why

*squints*

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Find any scam you can, I guess.

I’m waiting for Andrew Tate to weigh in before I make my choice

my daughter is 12 and fairly interested in current events but most of her friends don’t follow the political news. they do think about climate change, that’s probably the most common thing inside their own little worlds that they’re engaged in. but gotta agree with table here, that is no indication of how informed or politically active they’ll be in a few years, let alone as adults

xp and here’s why

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, November 1, 2024 10:57 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

"You're not voting for who you support, you're voting for who you want to be protesting against."

Just 15 minutes ago my wife commented to me that as soon as it's clear Harris has won, then we'll be free to start slamming her on the war in Gaza. She's 75 years old, but was raised in the Friends Meeting, which is the more liberal offshoot of the Friends Church (Quakers).

> then we'll be free to start slamming her on the war in Gaza.

No time more effective to hold someone’s feet to the fire than when the person has just been elected, is guaranteed four years in office and no party will abandon the incumbency advantage after four years unless you’re exhibiting signs of dementia.

What’re you gonna do in 2028 if your genocide protests are ineffective, not vote?

I voted for her. what are you going to do?

to repeat the context: "You're not voting for who you support, you're voting for who you want to be protesting against."

whatever you've chosen to do, how about you make your case for it?

So she’s guaranteed your vote no matter how much your ‘Gaza slams’ are ignored? Sounds like a protest strategy even less effective than voting for Jill Stein - at least Stein could theoretically sway an election.

Vote for her, don’t vote for her, who cares? ‘Once she’s elected then the real pressure starts’ is just lying to yourself.

Yeah that context is incredibly stupid, that’s the point. “Elect THEN protest” is just a convenient thing to say to make yourself feel better if you want to pretend to care about arming a genocide.

It would be healthier to just say “Gaza wasn’t important enough to sway my vote” and leave it there.

The Las Vegas Sun coming out swinging. If only such sentiments were permissible in the New York Times or Washington Post.

Donald Trump’s racism, sexism, xenophobia and penchant for corruption have long made him unfit for any public office, let alone the presidency. But as he continues his bid for a second term in the White House, there is an unsettling and undeniable shift that is leading many experts, observers and even some Trump supporters to conclude that the former president’s mental acuity and sharpness are also in decline, that his physical health and stamina are waning and that his frustration and anger are boiling over.

Americans from both sides of the political spectrum should be alarmed by Trump’s words and behavior. The nation must confront the fact that beyond his hateful character, he is crippled cognitively and showing clear signs of mental illness.

There’s no need to resort to armchair psychology to interpret what’s apparent. If victorious, Trump would be the oldest president ever inaugurated. In recent weeks, he has canceled an increasing number of public appearances, with Trump’s own campaign citing the candidate’s exhaustion. When he does appear publicly, Trump struggles to complete sentences or sustain coherent thoughts, and has shown a pronounced difficulty concentrating and a tendency to repeat himself, sometimes within the same sentence.

At a recent rally in New Hampshire, for example, Trump began to discuss infrastructure and wound up segueing into a disjointed monologue about loyalty and perceived injustices against him, ending with a bewildering comment about windmills causing cancer.

This is not an isolated incident. A recent analysis by The New York Times noted that Trump’s rally speeches over the past eight years have become darker, longer, more profane and increasingly unfocused and unhinged — a troubling sign that he is no longer able to articulate ideas or reason in ways we expect of our leaders. This makes him prey to manipulations by his own staff or, worse, the control of foreign adversaries.

Amazingly, it gets harsher from there.

“Elect THEN protest” is just a convenient thing to say to make yourself feel better if you want to pretend to care about arming a genocide.

No, it's the only pragmatic option.

Anyone who would care enough about Gaza to not vote for Harris also probably cares about abortion rights and Haitians in Ohio and trans kids etc etc so it’s deeply understandable why one would vote for Harris regardless.

It is perfectly understandable - so no one needs to pretend that the game is to make politicians better after you have no power over them through the collective energy of harsh slams.

It’s not even a Rep or Senator who needs your vote until the end of time and might get primaried at some point. Unless Kamala’s brain starts going on the fritz like Joe’s she is guaranteed that second nomination - and the Democrats would have stuck it out with Joe up against anyone but Trump.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-biden-harris-curse-tucker-carlson-b2639640.html
Former President Donald Trump launched a profanity-laden attack on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, calling the president a “stupid bastard” and the vice president a “sleazebag.”

He just doesnt care anymore does he?

Since he won't say it: like myself, Milo is a lefty millennial in Texas, so his votes for anything but maybe some very local offices have never counted for anything at all so far in his lifetime.

No, it's the only pragmatic option.

What's pragmatic about it? College kids were getting beaten by cops protesting genocide while Democrats collectively sided with the genocidaires (and the cops) and Israel policy hasn't moved one micrometer in the run-up to the most important election of our lives.

If you've given your vote to Harris and you're guaranteed to give it to her again and you're guaranteed to give it to every Democrat who runs for office in between... what is the mechanism by which you think these protests will force the politicians being protested to change?

It took a summer of sustained insurrection - under a Republican President - to get Democrats to kinda sorta move to the left on policing and police violence and then they wound up with "shoot em in the knee" Biden and are still pouring money into the pigs' coffers and... cheering on the pigs beating college kids for protesting genocide.

xp - and I'm not telling anyone to not vote. I cannot imagine caring if anyone else votes. The idea, however, that a captured group of voters can then sway policy through writing critical articles is so obviously not reality. We already lived through peaceful protest under a Democratic President being met repeatedly with state violence and nothing changed. How is that going to play different after they don't need your votes?

Protest against people you put in power will never have an impact unless there's a chance you might take them out of power. You don't vote for 'the people you want to protest,' you voted for their policy.

honestly, i agree with milo. i voted for Harris despite her stance on Gaza, not because i am deluded enough to think she or any Dem politician will stop the flow of AIPAC money to their coffers. these people are perfectly fine with aiding and abetting genocide now— thinking that they can be swayed after more than a year of what Israel has been doing is, frankly, naïve in the extreme. But that’s Quakerism for you.

Polls polls polls

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/poll-shows-israelis-massively-favor-trump-over-harris-in-us-election

(I write that as someone partially raised in a Quaker meeting, fwiw)

from the Las Vegas Sun piece shared by unperson:

When he does appear publicly, Trump struggles to complete sentences or sustain coherent thoughts, and has shown a pronounced difficulty concentrating and a tendency to repeat himself, sometimes within the same sentence.

At a recent rally in New Hampshire, for example, Trump began to discuss infrastructure and wound up segueing into a disjointed monologue about loyalty and perceived injustices against him, ending with a bewildering comment about windmills causing cancer.

in other words... a speech by Donald Trump? to be clear, I'm very glad to see it getting called out in print but jesus it's been nine solid years of this! obvious to anyone actually watching his speeches or reading the raw transcripts (who was the reporter in 2016 that used to post highlighted snippets on Twitter?)!

he is obviously in massive decline physically and cognitively, but imo the new part is that he sounds wheezy and looks glassy-eyed, not that he's stringing together random grievances, conspiracy theories, slurs and misunderstood news snippets. that's who h is! his entire political career has been as a walking churning Deep Dream of the conservative media sphere. every single ilxor had this sorted out two presidential terms ago; maybe our nation's most penetrating political analysts could have clocked this slightly sooner? to be fair i guess they were too busy poring over the exit polls of individual imaginary Midwestern diners.

this generation of college students is the most hyper aware and left in their political leanings that i have ever met, and i have been teaching college kids for a decade. you have no idea what you’re talking about :-)

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 November 2024 bookmarkflaglink

I like this clear piece from The Nation's interns on their non-endorsement of Kamala, in opposition to the Nation's main editorial board.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/kamala-harris-counter-endorsement/

Obviously this is almost nobody's politics here.