U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

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The latest TrueAnon podcast has the hosts recount their visit to the MSG America First rally, where just the low-effort, batshit, confidently ignorant pose from the punters in line that exhausted Brace so much he drop his usual ironic style just to lambast them.

https://m.soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/the-player-haters-ball

Far more boos from the audience as the night wore on as the number of idiotic grifter freaks that Don Jr or Eric Trump probably got on the bill kept being introduced as speakers.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 1 November 2024 16:50 (one year ago)

I just clicked that link and HOLY FUCK. How does anyone listen to TWO SOLID HOURS of three solipsistic assholes jabbering like that? After five minutes I wanted to do things to them that would make Art the Clown avert his eyes.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 1 November 2024 17:00 (one year ago)

lets check in on Newsmax

Newsmax host Rob Schmitt: "Do you know what a furry is? Did you see that episode of Entourage years ago? If not, Google it because the president might be one."https://t.co/X7JzsrCWlD

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) November 1, 2024

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2024 17:02 (one year ago)

It’s a good podcast imo

JoeStork, Friday, 1 November 2024 17:05 (one year ago)

uh xp though I also listen religiously to every newsmax podcast

JoeStork, Friday, 1 November 2024 17:05 (one year ago)

This is pretty funny; tier-2 right-wing hack Hugh Hewitt flipped out during a Washington Post live chat and stormed off the set after host Jonathan Capehart pointed out that he is, in fact, a lying right-wing hack who will say fucking anything if it benefits Trump and/or the Republican Party.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 1 November 2024 17:09 (one year ago)

my god it's insane how much AP is in the tank for Trump

https://i.imgur.com/aqoFbmU.png

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2024 17:10 (one year ago)

I had a video on my TikTok FYP giving tips on spoofing the canvassing and door knocking app used by the Elon Musk PAC. The video presented this as a life hack to make some extra money rather than a protest.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 1 November 2024 17:13 (one year ago)

How does anyone listen to TWO SOLID HOURS of three solipsistic assholes jabbering like that?

Nice to see when a podcast can elicit a response, tho “solipsistic” is pretty far from an accurate descriptor of them.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 1 November 2024 17:44 (one year ago)

would like to take a minute to salute the great patriots getting paid to enter fake door knocks into trumps gotv app

lag∞n, Friday, 1 November 2024 18:02 (one year ago)

pretty wild comparing the Trump of 2016 or even 2020 to what we're seeing now, everyone says the presidency ages you dramatically which seems like it was true for everyone *but* Trump, for him *not* being President is what caused him to fall apart

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2024 18:17 (one year ago)

hes also just old

lag∞n, Friday, 1 November 2024 18:18 (one year ago)

Ozempic Brain

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 November 2024 18:22 (one year ago)

for him *not* being President is what caused him to fall apart

including for the first 70 years of his life, don't forget he wasn't president then either and he was a total shitshow

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 1 November 2024 18:26 (one year ago)

well the last 3 1/2 years have been filled with indictments, FBI searches, lawsuits, people shooting at him

Raising Azure Asia (President Keyes), Friday, 1 November 2024 18:26 (one year ago)

also probably a lot of soiled depends

Raising Azure Asia (President Keyes), Friday, 1 November 2024 18:26 (one year ago)

the betting whale is doing it for exactly the reason everyone assumed

>"I have absolutely no political agenda"
>On the Zoom call, he alleged that Democrat-aligned media organizations were laying the groundwork for social unrest by stoking expectations of a close race, instead of the Trump blowout that he anticipates. https://t.co/MdyUCSGMJJ

— Quantіan (@quantian1) November 1, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 November 2024 18:52 (one year ago)

This is pretty funny; tier-2 right-wing hack Hugh Hewitt flipped out during a Washington Post live chat and stormed off the set after host Jonathan Capehart pointed out that he is, in fact, a lying right-wing hack who will say fucking anything if it benefits Trump and/or the Republican Party.

and then quit as a Post columnist.

WmC, Friday, 1 November 2024 18:56 (one year ago)

Aw, gee, that's too bad. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, Hugh.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 1 November 2024 18:57 (one year ago)

xp finally the wsj prints news

sparkling hebroic couplet (Hunt3r), Friday, 1 November 2024 18:59 (one year ago)

this seems unwise but then im not someone who has millions to slosh around

But… if you had a large DJT options position, say in the October 31 expiry with cheaper pre-election vol, then you could Hwang that with big a Polymarket long. You’d hedge by dumping DJT on the last day or two, lock in your gains, and ride out the PM long.

— Quantіan (@quantian1) November 1, 2024

lag∞n, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:00 (one year ago)

and then quit as a Post columnist.

If he took Thiessen with him, I would be content. (Will clearly is immovable.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:09 (one year ago)

Hughie Hewitt knew he blew it

Raising Azure Asia (President Keyes), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:13 (one year ago)

Roffle. Oh Jeff B., all that effort and hedging and this is what happens:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:tnlhrgmbce34nvpyti46miej/bafkreibizw7lu3u663xlb3xh5ivn7lpdcaxdwuqoqmdc33y5bbvetpwkhe@jpeg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:13 (one year ago)

This gun's for hire
Even if we're endorsing in the dark

Raising Azure Asia (President Keyes), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:14 (one year ago)

nobody that thinks they're winning does this etc

Kurt Dandruff (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:16 (one year ago)

You'd also think you wouldn't break into the DNC's office if you were going to win 49 states but there you go.

Raising Azure Asia (President Keyes), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:19 (one year ago)

has trump ever brought up in public that his mother was an immigrant? you'd think that would be a good rally line. "i love immigrants my mother was an immigrant!" english was her 2nd language even. and she was a maid when she came here!

scott seward, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:20 (one year ago)

Anyway, WP poll has PA 48 Harris/ 47 Trump

Raising Azure Asia (President Keyes), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:21 (one year ago)

(xp) They're very white in the Western Isles though. Not a lot of sunny days.

biting your uncles (Tom D.), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:22 (one year ago)

This MSNBC segment — an interview with Black men in Georgia who are voting Harris specifically because of abortion and her focus on maternal health — is rough. Some of these guys' wives died in childbirth, others are scared that they might.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-KM0GWtpQw

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:24 (one year ago)

Hwang that thang

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:25 (one year ago)

Getting shot at by a supporter really broke whatever there was left of his brain.

― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 November 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Never heard anymore about that guy and what might have been his reasons...

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:35 (one year ago)

has trump ever brought up in public that his mother was an immigrant? you'd think that would be a good rally line. "i love immigrants my mother was an immigrant!" english was her 2nd language even. and she was a maid when she came here!

But that would mean taking the focus off of him, something he is incapable of.

I. J. Miggs (dandydonweiner), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:36 (one year ago)

its wild to think but Trump probably could've easily won 2020 and installed himself as dictator for life if he was capable of moderating his message just a little

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:38 (one year ago)

like if he had taken any leadership at all during COVID instead of fussing over numbers and talking about bleach while actively trying to get people in blue states killed, it would've been a walk

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:39 (one year ago)

Yep. But that would have required him to be an entirely different person.

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:40 (one year ago)

There’s a pathology with guys like this, which makes them in capable of moderating anything. That lack of empathy means they can never extend anything remotely resembling and olive branch and believe me I think that if a humbled Trump showed up in 2024 with a message of change, he would have this in the bag. But like tipsy said that is not who he is.

omar little, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:42 (one year ago)

*incapable
and = an

omar little, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:43 (one year ago)

yeah sort of a trump 22 he never wouldve gotten elected in the first place if he was more normal but he wouldve gotten reelected

lag∞n, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:44 (one year ago)

ya its almost as if his entire existence is owed to fluke events like the Comey letter

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2024 19:45 (one year ago)

I don't generally like Tom Scocca's writing; he seems like kind of a dick, in the Michael Moore-ish "I wish this guy wasn't on my side" sense. But this piece is good.

I don't think Kamala Harris has blown the election. I have no idea if she's going to win or not; I just don't see how, if Donald Trump becomes president again, there's any real way to blame the Democratic nominee.

Ever since 2016, people have comforted themselves with the stories that Hillary Clinton was a singularly unlikeable candidate or that her campaign didn't take Wisconsin seriously—that she lost to Donald Trump because she fundamentally didn't deserve to win. A less blindered, more righteous candidate would have been able to bend history just a few fractions of a degree away from the track toward disaster.

Maybe. Sure, why not. But there's no convincing story this time around that Harris is making some terrible, obvious, avoidable mistake. She quickly and decisively seized the controls of the tailspinning Joe Biden candidacy and accelerated the Democratic presidential campaign into the stratosphere. She's battling in the battlegrounds, swarming the ground game, maintaining steely message discipline, and obliterating Trump in fundraising. She picked Tim Walz when the clammy centrist ghouls were demanding Josh Shapiro. Tens of thousands of people are turning out to hear her.

...

The alternative is unthinkable, yet somehow plausible. All the reporting says that the Donald Trump campaign is a logistical disaster. He looted the Republican National Committee to pay his own legal fees; he has hardly any staff; his voter turnout operation appears to be a bumbling human-trafficking scheme outsourced to the visibly unraveling Elon Musk. As a candidate, Trump is sagging and rambling, canceling events or falling mysteriously silent onstage or boring his own audiences into leaving. And the polls say he's within a coin toss of winning.

Some people, in some places, do have sincere and pragmatic reasons to elect Donald Trump. If your job involves despoiling the environment—as many American jobs do—your paycheck will likely be more secure under Trump, even if you might have to worry more about flash flooding or cancer. Prison guards and cops should find more opportunities if Trump becomes president again, and with more room for kinetic action and self-expression at work.

None of that, though, adds up to the tens of millions of people whom the pollsters expect to see voting for Trump. Unemployment is historically low, gas prices are down and dropping more, the stock market is at all-time highs, and the economic coverage and the economic polling and the economic coverage of the economic polling has been about nothing but the public's dread of inflation. Large segments of the country say they believe that crime is rampant, rather than low and dropping, and that cities are war zones, and that migrants are crowding out citizens, and that the Biden–Harris administration attacked the inland South with a hurricane, or at least abandoned the region to drown, or definitely did something wrong there. Musk has turned Twitter into a maelstrom of race panic and warnings about voter fraud, the voice of a billionaire cabal who somehow believe that if they smash everything, they'll come out even further ahead than they are now.

When I voted in 2016, I remember the space for Trump drawing my eye with the same perverse, fascinating power as a cop's holstered gun on the subway. You could just reach out—you wouldn't, you would never—but a person could. It was right there. And then enough people in enough places did it. I don't remember what I thought in 2020 at all. In 2024, though, even after I'd bubbled in Harris–Walz, I kept staring at the empty Trump–Vance, not quite believing it was even on the page, an open sore that stubbornly hadn't healed.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:48 (one year ago)

Interesting fact: Trump's mother was beaten nearly to death by a mugger when she was a year older than Trump is now.

Raising Azure Asia (President Keyes), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:48 (one year ago)

i like tom s. as a writer but that piece seems pretty dumb

a (waterface), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:52 (one year ago)

Contemporaneous mugging story:

https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/1991/10/31/Trumps-mother-mugged/4895688885200/

guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:54 (one year ago)

This is fucking crazy

At the same time, the 2016 and 2020 polling misfires shattered many pollsters’ confidence in their own methods and data. When their results come in very blue, they don’t believe it. And frankly, I share that same feeling: If our final Pennsylvania poll comes in at Harris +7, why would I believe it? As a result, pollsters are more willing to take steps to produce more Republican-leaning results.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/01/upshot/so-can-we-trust-the-polls.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Wk4.G5V1.UfwDaSVi0TF9&smid=url-share

a (waterface), Friday, 1 November 2024 19:59 (one year ago)

Demons after Alex Jones now too apparently. I'm not a demonologist but I've seen enough movies about this kind of thing, does it not occur to these guys that this is just the debt coming due for whatever deals they made? Shoulda read the small print before clicking the box.

Alex Jones says Tucker Carlson told him about being mauled by demons in his sleep last year at his house, and they figured out it was connected to someone “laying hands” on him. Alex says he was also attacked by a poltergeist who threw him around and separated his shoulder. pic.twitter.com/xkjJPrghwj

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) November 1, 2024

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Friday, 1 November 2024 20:00 (one year ago)

Reminds me of my dad, who in his later years had dementia so bad he was convinced the nurses in his assisted living unit were not only attacking him at night, but were also roughing up me and my brothers.

henry s, Friday, 1 November 2024 20:06 (one year ago)

First, the pandemic is over. There’s serious evidence suggesting the pandemic was a major factor in the polling error in 2020, as many Democrats stayed at home — and responded to polls — while Republicans went about their lives. It would explain why the fixes that pollsters made after the 2016 election proved so ineffective four years later. If so, many polls might be accurate even without any major changes at all.

I've always suspected this was the case so it's nice to see someone else say it

once again I must point out that the idea that the polls are actually underestimating Trump, suggesting it's plausible that he overperforms 2020 by 8,000,000 votes, feels insane to me. I don't think like that's within the scope of actual possibilities here, I mean it's easy to come up with theories why it might be so (certainly there are a lot of them in this thread) but there's really no evidence on the ground whatsoever suggesting Trump is even gonna come close to winning the popular vote

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2024 20:07 (one year ago)

xxpost Can we donate to these demons?

Raising Azure Asia (President Keyes), Friday, 1 November 2024 20:09 (one year ago)


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