U.S. Politics, November 2024: GARBAGE DAY!!

I wish the "he did a coup/is a felon/is clearly insane" argument was more compelling for the American voter, but tbh I think the Harris campaign is making the right call by fighting him to a draw on the economy in the minds of swing voters (which seems to have worked per polling), and then hammering him on abortion.

I love how they always portray Democrats simultaneously as this disorganized, incompetent group of stuttering boobs while at the same time portraying them as an effective hivemind that successfully rigs elections and arrests political opponents

We don't like Trump's crimes but we REALLY don't like him not getting away with his crimes

Neil Finn, the nation turns its lonely eyes to you:

It’s hard to not be drawn in to the American Election... I do find it baffling that many Latinos would give their vote to Trump when he is talking about roundups of illegals. That means dawn raids, suspicion and intense scrutiny of all Latinos. NZ had a period where the police set about looking for overstayers from the Pacific Islands. They mounted dawn raids into households to search for these overstayers. It caused a huge amount of misery and resentment amongst the whole community and was abandoned and now condemned as a sad chapter in NZ history. I wish someone could pass on the sum of that experience to those who face the same potential in the U.S.

there was one really horrible Korean comedian on Last Comic Standing once, a Carlos Mencia type that basically played into stereotypes and made jokes that racist White people would like, and she basically said she was against immigration and when people asked how she could be because of her ethnicity, she always said "well...I'm already here!".

feel like that's the heart of it.

we all have a basic drive towards self-interest, and it doesn't take a huge amount of messaging that it's ok or even good to give into those instincts at the expense of what our more evolved but also instinctive sense of morality and human compassion and solidarity might guide us to do. it's classic angel on one shoulder, devil on the other shit. and this is the result of decades of that messaging that the first instinct is equally or more valid as the second, coming from what is presented in our society as a credible source, if not explicitly the voice of the angel

Anecdata via a text from my mom, who lives in Lebanon, NJ:

Went out to the library for early voting. Parking lot was jammed. Line took about 20 minutes. A couple behind he had their just turned 18 son with them. He was cheered by the crowd. The family was going out to lunch to celebrate.

Another 70 degree day.

Politico: Why the Polls Might Be Wrong - In Kamala Harris' Favor

For eight years, pollsters have been striving to accurately capture former President Donald Trump’s level of support among voters. Even today, on the eve of his third campaign for the presidency, there’s no confidence they’ve nailed it. It raises a question that not enough people are asking: If it’s taken that long to adjust for Trump, is 100 days enough to accurately poll potential Vice President Kamala Harris voters?

It’s not just an academic question. There’s reason to believe that, just as proved to be the case with Trump, there is a fuller range of Harris voters who aren’t being measured.

In this election cycle, pollsters have made a clear effort to explore various methodologies that enable a deeper dive into Trump’s areas of support that were previously underrepresented in past polling. But when asked about the challenge of tracking an abbreviated Harris campaign in the wake of an historic candidate swap, some pollsters believed that the polling transition from Biden to Harris would be “relatively seamless.”

...

While Trump voters have found their voice and the polls have adapted to better hear them, the same cannot be said for many “forgotten” Harris voters that polls are ill-equipped to capture. These voters are not necessarily “shy” with their support for Harris, instead they are overlooked by current polling methods. One such group is a subset of Republicans who increasingly feel politically homeless within their own party: Nikki Haley voters.

A national survey of Nikki Haley’s primary voters conducted in early October by the Democratic polling firm Blueprint has charted this group’s slow but significant shift away from supporting Trump and their increasing willingness to support Democratic presidential candidates over time. (Notably, this survey excludes registered Democrats who voted for Nikki Haley in primaries to ensure the results truly reflect Republican-leaning voter sentiments.) The survey showed that while 66 percent of Haley primary voters supported Trump in 2016, that number dropped to 59 percent in 2020 and is expected to drop even further to 45 percent in this year’s election. Meanwhile, their support for the Democratic presidential nominee has nearly tripled from only 13 percent supporting Hillary Clinton in 2016 to 36 percent indicating an intent to vote for Kamala Harris.

Basically, the piece seems to be arguing that to assume for polling purposes that all Harris supporters are Democrats could be a serious fuckup.

This is too rich to digest, considering you've given DJT the benefit of the doubt exactly the way Doctor Casino did many, many times over the years.

― WmC, Friday, November 1, 2024 10:17 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

sorry, what exactly are you referring to here?

I don't have the energy to find examples, so I'll withdraw the comment.

The latest TrueAnon podcast has the hosts recount their visit to the MSG America First rally, where just the low-effort, batshit, confidently ignorant pose from the punters in line that exhausted Brace so much he drop his usual ironic style just to lambast them.

https://m.soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/the-player-haters-ball

Far more boos from the audience as the night wore on as the number of idiotic grifter freaks that Don Jr or Eric Trump probably got on the bill kept being introduced as speakers.

I just clicked that link and HOLY FUCK. How does anyone listen to TWO SOLID HOURS of three solipsistic assholes jabbering like that? After five minutes I wanted to do things to them that would make Art the Clown avert his eyes.

lets check in on Newsmax

Newsmax host Rob Schmitt: "Do you know what a furry is? Did you see that episode of Entourage years ago? If not, Google it because the president might be one."https://t.co/X7JzsrCWlD

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) November 1, 2024

It’s a good podcast imo

uh xp though I also listen religiously to every newsmax podcast

This is pretty funny; tier-2 right-wing hack Hugh Hewitt flipped out during a Washington Post live chat and stormed off the set after host Jonathan Capehart pointed out that he is, in fact, a lying right-wing hack who will say fucking anything if it benefits Trump and/or the Republican Party.

my god it's insane how much AP is in the tank for Trump

https://i.imgur.com/aqoFbmU.png

I had a video on my TikTok FYP giving tips on spoofing the canvassing and door knocking app used by the Elon Musk PAC. The video presented this as a life hack to make some extra money rather than a protest.

How does anyone listen to TWO SOLID HOURS of three solipsistic assholes jabbering like that?

Nice to see when a podcast can elicit a response, tho “solipsistic” is pretty far from an accurate descriptor of them.

would like to take a minute to salute the great patriots getting paid to enter fake door knocks into trumps gotv app

pretty wild comparing the Trump of 2016 or even 2020 to what we're seeing now, everyone says the presidency ages you dramatically which seems like it was true for everyone *but* Trump, for him *not* being President is what caused him to fall apart

hes also just old

Ozempic Brain

for him *not* being President is what caused him to fall apart

including for the first 70 years of his life, don't forget he wasn't president then either and he was a total shitshow

well the last 3 1/2 years have been filled with indictments, FBI searches, lawsuits, people shooting at him

also probably a lot of soiled depends

the betting whale is doing it for exactly the reason everyone assumed

>"I have absolutely no political agenda"
>On the Zoom call, he alleged that Democrat-aligned media organizations were laying the groundwork for social unrest by stoking expectations of a close race, instead of the Trump blowout that he anticipates. https://t.co/MdyUCSGMJJ

— Quantіan (@quantian1) November 1, 2024

This is pretty funny; tier-2 right-wing hack Hugh Hewitt flipped out during a Washington Post live chat and stormed off the set after host Jonathan Capehart pointed out that he is, in fact, a lying right-wing hack who will say fucking anything if it benefits Trump and/or the Republican Party.

and then quit as a Post columnist.

Aw, gee, that's too bad. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, Hugh.

xp finally the wsj prints news

this seems unwise but then im not someone who has millions to slosh around

But… if you had a large DJT options position, say in the October 31 expiry with cheaper pre-election vol, then you could Hwang that with big a Polymarket long. You’d hedge by dumping DJT on the last day or two, lock in your gains, and ride out the PM long.

— Quantіan (@quantian1) November 1, 2024

and then quit as a Post columnist.

If he took Thiessen with him, I would be content. (Will clearly is immovable.)

Hughie Hewitt knew he blew it

Roffle. Oh Jeff B., all that effort and hedging and this is what happens:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:tnlhrgmbce34nvpyti46miej/bafkreibizw7lu3u663xlb3xh5ivn7lpdcaxdwuqoqmdc33y5bbvetpwkhe@jpeg

This gun's for hire
Even if we're endorsing in the dark

nobody that thinks they're winning does this etc

You'd also think you wouldn't break into the DNC's office if you were going to win 49 states but there you go.

has trump ever brought up in public that his mother was an immigrant? you'd think that would be a good rally line. "i love immigrants my mother was an immigrant!" english was her 2nd language even. and she was a maid when she came here!

Anyway, WP poll has PA 48 Harris/ 47 Trump

(xp) They're very white in the Western Isles though. Not a lot of sunny days.

This MSNBC segment — an interview with Black men in Georgia who are voting Harris specifically because of abortion and her focus on maternal health — is rough. Some of these guys' wives died in childbirth, others are scared that they might.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-KM0GWtpQw

Hwang that thang

Getting shot at by a supporter really broke whatever there was left of his brain.

― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 November 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Never heard anymore about that guy and what might have been his reasons...

has trump ever brought up in public that his mother was an immigrant? you'd think that would be a good rally line. "i love immigrants my mother was an immigrant!" english was her 2nd language even. and she was a maid when she came here!

But that would mean taking the focus off of him, something he is incapable of.

its wild to think but Trump probably could've easily won 2020 and installed himself as dictator for life if he was capable of moderating his message just a little

like if he had taken any leadership at all during COVID instead of fussing over numbers and talking about bleach while actively trying to get people in blue states killed, it would've been a walk

Yep. But that would have required him to be an entirely different person.

There’s a pathology with guys like this, which makes them in capable of moderating anything. That lack of empathy means they can never extend anything remotely resembling and olive branch and believe me I think that if a humbled Trump showed up in 2024 with a message of change, he would have this in the bag. But like tipsy said that is not who he is.

*incapable
and = an

yeah sort of a trump 22 he never wouldve gotten elected in the first place if he was more normal but he wouldve gotten reelected