Israel, Palestine & the Levant rolling events: Oct 23 on

Well and every child is a future terrorist obv

was going to ask 'where' but what's the difference; they were all terrorists

I've been thinking about this since the pagers incident. Whether its in Gaza or Lebanon doesn't seem to make much difference, but I don't know it would be that much different if it were Vienna either. India did it in Vancouver and there was a bit of noise about it but not much really in the big scheme of things.

Netanyahu not even bothering to respond to Biden and Macron's call for a ceasefire.

gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/25/world/middleeast/west-bank-raids.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Nk4.c4gC.3OPzDyd81jJz&smid=url-share

Israeli Bulldozers Flatten Mile After Mile in the West Bank

For months, Israeli raids destroyed roads and other infrastructure that local officials said they repeatedly fixed, only to see their work razed again in the next assault.

Muhanad Matar, the head of general relations for the municipality of Tulkarm, estimated that in the latest operations alone, more than 90 percent of water and sewage lines had been destroyed.

In Jenin, some 70 percent of roads have been damaged or destroyed by the recent raids, according to the mayor, Nidal Obeidi. Internet, electricity and phone lines were shut down in some areas. Sewage and water lines were also cut, leaving about 80 percent of Jenin without running water, local officials said, including the main hospital.

“The problem with trying to calculate the costs is that it doesn’t stop,” Mr. Matar said. “It’s an unending string of raids.”

there's a video clip in that article of a bulldozer swerving across a road to block an ambulance with its lights on

Netanyahu's declaration that Israel must defeat Hizbullah and that it can't accept a "terrorist army" on its doorstep is a declaration of forever war on Lebanon. Forever because that's how long it's going to take him to achieve this aim. His farcical accusation that Hizbullah…

— Amal Saad (@amalsaad_lb) September 27, 2024

Southern Beirut suburbs being carpet-bombed right now.

The UN's spokesperson, Stéphane Dujarric, said the organisation is watching the Israeli strikes on a “densely populated” area in the southern suburbs of Beirut “with great alarm”.

There is intense focus on the fate of Nasrallah right now. These were massive American bombs Israel dropped on a densely populated residential area in Beirut and we still have no sense of how many people died. It’s going to be a very large number.

— jeremy scahill (@jeremyscahill) September 27, 2024

horrifying

I mean ofc it could be bullshit to justify those bombs.

In South Lebanon Israel has started bombing first-aid hospitals and Trauma Stabslisation Points. Today it killed a a doctor and 8 paramedics.

— Ghassan Abu Sitta (@GhassanAbuSitt1) September 27, 2024

Bibi saying some shit at the UN today about "How would Americans like it if San Diego was a ghosttown because of rocket attacks?" without acknowledging that the U.S. maintains (more or less) healthy diplomatic relationships with our neighbors

jfc

Bibi just loves killing doctors and paramedics.

If you are an American, I want you to think very hard about what these images in south Beirut remind you of.pic.twitter.com/QXSsc93p9u

— Séamus Malekafzali (@Seamus_Malek) September 27, 2024

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/28/israel-says-it-has-killed-hezbollah-leader-hassan-nasrallah

The twitter timeline is quiet..

Hezbollah confirms.

"We renew our commitment to continue the fight against the enemy, to support Gaza and Palestine, and to defend Lebanon and its resilient and honorable people."

Hezbollah has confirmed the death of its Secretary-General, Hassan Nasrallah, following an Israeli attack on the… pic.twitter.com/Zu8WIDoWV0

— Quds News Network (@QudsNen) September 28, 2024

Remember that in its dying days, the apartheid state in South Africa escalated on all fronts - Angola, Mozambique, Namibia, assassinations. The settlers are regionally isolated and so they lash out: the Zionist state looks impregnable now but freedom will come.

— Barnaby Raine (@BarnabyRaine) September 28, 2024

at least 300 dead.

The Israeli strike on Hezbollah's headquarters in the southern suburbs of Beirut also killed the commander of the organization's southern front, Ali Karaki, as well as the commander of the Quds Force in Syria and Lebanon, Abbas Nilforushan.

they're still bombing Beirut right now iiuc

from a NY Times article about Hezbollah’s “miscalculation” -

Israel's second advantage was that Mr. Nasrallah's actions showed that he was reluctant to respond to Israel's attacks in ways that most likely would have expanded the war.

32 years ago, after the assassination of Hezbollah’s Secretary General Abbas al-Musawi in 1992, Israeli newspapers headlined: “The era of conflict with Hezbollah has ended.” pic.twitter.com/OTta7f1oZL

— Warfare Analysis (@warfareanalysis) September 28, 2024

When Israel killed Ahmad Yassin, the leader of Hamas, the Bush administration condemned Israel for killing 7 others.

When Israel killed Hassan Nasrallah, the Biden administration congratulates Israel for its "measure of justice" in strikes Israel itself says killed 300 people. https://t.co/NNeXdT01kw

— Séamus Malekafzali (@Seamus_Malek) September 28, 2024

God, these Israeli spokespeople that constantly get interviewed on UK TV are so nauseatingly smug.

an IG friend of mine in Lebanon told me her grandmother's home was destroyed several days ago. her grandmother has dementia, and now no home.

Kamala Harris.

"Hassan Nasrallah was a terrorist with American blood on his hands. Across decades, his leadership of Hezbollah destabilized the Middle East and led to the killing of countless innocent people in Lebanon, Israel, Syria, and around the world. Today, Hezbollah’s victims have a measure of justice."

Is the killing of countless innocent people bad again, good to know

You misunderstand: it’s okay as long you count them

the full Harris statement is even less coherent:

Hassan Nasrallah was a terrorist with American blood on his hands. Across decades, his leadership of Hezbollah destabilized the Middle East and led to the killing of countless innocent people in Lebanon, Israel, Syria, and around the world. Today, Hezbollah’s victims have a measure of justice.

I have an unwavering commitment to the security of Israel. I will always support Israel’s right to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis.

President Biden and I do not want to see conflict in the Middle East escalate into a broader regional war. We have been working on a diplomatic solution along the Israel-Lebanon border so that people can safely return home on both sides of that border. Diplomacy remains the best path forward to protect civilians and achieve lasting stability in the region.

if a person sincerely meant all of that, you would have to conclude they were concussed

Lol @ Trump being seen as even worse than this.

he's going full Hitler at his rally today so yeah

Complete nonsense.

Trump is absolutely worse than Harris all told*, but choosing the day she went to the Arizona border to make it clear she hates asylum seekers too to make that point is kind of lol

* to xyzzzz’s point though, the assertion that Trump would be worse on Israel specifically is meaningless afaict

I am talking about Israel/Gaza. This is not the US pol thread and no one should be making up stuff about Trump as Hitler when American bombs have killed hundreds of Arab lives, which Harris does not give a fuck about.

Trump would absolutely be worse on Israel, Gaza, and the Middle East generally. A lot worse. He would be worse for the Arabs and he would be worse for the Jews. If you think it couldn't be any worse than it is now, I envy your sunny disposition.

Really no poing in discussing Trump itt imo, we already have like five threads for that shit and discussions about whether he'd be worse or not distract from the current atrocities.

The middle east is at war. Stop looking at polls all day xp

BREAKING - Some 1 million Lebanese have been displaced by Israeli attacks, 100s of thousands since yesterday — head of Lebanese government crisis cell Nasser Yassin to @Reuters

— Timour Azhari (@timourazhari) September 28, 2024

The ground invasion is starting:

Israel preparing for limited ground incursion into Lebanon: US official

Israel is preparing for a limited ground incursion into Lebanon, even after it killed around 30 top leaders within Hezbollah in recent weeks.

Israel has rejected a cease-fire proposal -- even a limited one -- in Lebanon, now bombing sites where there are suspected longer range missiles, according to a senior U.S. official. Israel is not listening to the Biden administration despite its repeated calls for a diplomatic solution.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-hamas-hezbollah-war?id=113917948&entryId=114317700

why would they? the administration piles approbation on every atrocity they commit

i mean we knew assassination and torture are okay; they have been for awhile; now it’s okay to “assassinate” someone by bombing six apartment buildings at the same time

the story just below that one was "Bomb used by Israelis in Beirut likely came from the US"

meanwhile: https://apnews.com/article/syria-militants-killed-airstrike-us-central-command-8921f045b25d621143778730d78bd4e4

BEIRUT (AP) — In Syria, 37 militants affiliated to the extremist Islamic State group and an al-Qaeda-linked group were killed in two strikes, the United States military said Sunday.

Two of the dead were senior militants, it said.

U.S. Central Command said it struck northwestern Syria on Tuesday, targeting a senior militant from the al-Qaeda-linked Hurras al-Deen group and eight others. They say he was responsible for overseeing military operations.

They also announced a strike from earlier this month on Sept. 16, where they conducted a “large-scale airstrike” on an IS training camp in a remote undisclosed location in central Syria. That attack killed 28 militants, including “at least four Syrian leaders.”

This will definitely work

Just kill all the bad guys, then things will settle down

Serious question from someone who doesn’t follow this stuff super closely: What is Israel actually trying to accomplish?

the story just below that one was "Bomb used by Israelis in Beirut likely came from the US"

― rob, Sunday, 29 September 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Many bombs.

Nasrallah was killed not by better and more precise intelligence, but simply more bombs. Specifically eighty bombs for one person. pic.twitter.com/OU52sz1qdB

— Mahdi (@mahdizda) September 29, 2024

yeah I didn't bother posting the story because it was speculative — the main point of it was that they used a "bunker-buster" 2000-lb bomb, which aren't normally used in urban areas.

notably, that same ABC News site has this as its sub-headline: "The U.S. and Israel have eliminated around 30 Hezbollah leaders in past weeks."

Serious question from someone who doesn’t follow this stuff super closely: What is Israel actually trying to accomplish?

― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 29 September 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Some of the strategy is driven by Netanyahu being propped up in power by eliminationist cabinet members, who have threatened to walk out of the coalition should a deal ever be reached.

Ultimately, this is on the US, who supply the bombs. And its hard not to see Israel as being also used by them to prosecute a war in the middle east to bring Iran to its knees.