High Fidelity: Classic Or Dud?

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So wait, you're from _Scotland_, and you're complaining it's too English? Well, fair enough I suppose, it is a book.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Eh, look at Smees post regarding the setting and culture-speak in the book and you'll know what I meant.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Too uplifting.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The Proclaimers that is. Not this silly argument.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

In chimes Andrew with a racist comment against Scots. Here we go. Sigh.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

that i might benefit from the many delights scotland has bestowed on us poor philistine folks south of the border, i will listen to deacon blue and runrig for the rest of the day.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, when someone takes something out of context, gets their hackles up and starts retaliating with pish about drug addicts I feel compelled to defend myself. This is the first disagreement I have ever had on this board, as a mixed race person living in Scotland I do not have any strong patriotic ties so I would have absolutely no reason to chant racist pish to anyone. And I don't.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"In chimes Andrew with a racist comment against Scots. Here we go. Sigh."

Am I reading a different thread? Is what Andrew said racist?

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It clearly implied that 'scots don't read books'. Or am I misconstruing this? Please explain if I am.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

It didn't come across that way to me. Only Andrew will know of course. I think you're a little wound up and reading between the lines.

I say we all take our clothes off.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Ignore Andrew F, he's showing his usual arrogant English cultural imperialistic snobbery.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

you said something was TOO ENGLISH - i know i was talking bollocks... i was doing it to prove a point

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah andrew's the worst example of stuck-up englishness, just like that ronan

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I point out that delicious irony that half the bands bigged up in the film are SCOTTISH?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

To prove a point. Okay, tell me what i said that was in any way derogatory to english people. Go on. Something preferably on par with your sick-making drug addict/sectarianism quip.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

oh i am not repeating myself again... and don't forget the alcoholics

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Are any of the bands Runrig or the Proclaimers? Deacon Blue? Cause this is the only music we produce Matt.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Repeating yourself? You haven't yet stated what my racially pointed comment was.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Donald where's your trousers?

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

That and the natural music of the agonised screams of tenement blocks.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The Beta Band bit is naffest evah. I was tres disappointed with the film, and I like Cusack AND Jack Black. It's no 'Con Air', put it that way.

BTW 'Con Air' FACT: 'In Da Club' is a clear steal off of the soundtrack. Truly.

ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

That's only racially pointed if you're not called Donald and you are wearing trousers.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I was winding up Scottish nationalists, a hobby of mine (the local nationalists are bit too dangerous to wind up).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave, you're being a prick.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Crumbling estates and lush glens. Scotland - the land of contrasts.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

He [Jack Black]doesn't even act, does anyone doubt he's actually exactly like his "characters" in real life?

Does this really matter? As long as the characters he's playing are reasonably close to what you seem to think is his real-life personality, does it matter that he's not an "actor"? At least in terms of High Fidelity, Black is much more convincing in his role than Cusack, who seems to think that squinting makes him edgy.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave is surely winding up those that are getting so offended.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah he's being a prick

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Jack Black was very convincing as Jack Black, but that was what the role called for.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost

Squinting and shouting and wearing T-shirts (possibly the latter is not down to him).

I like Cusack in general.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Wot N said just about sums up my thoughts on this one...

smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't day he was being a prick, but I think he is winding certain folx on this thread!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

cusack = dour. played up his character's unpleasant qualities.

black = amusing comic performance.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

He was producer (and adapter?), so I would assume that he hand-picked T-shirts for the whole cast.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

jack black is too american

oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i think people using english as a perjorative is pretty bloody silly that's all.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

and i have ADMITTED to being a prick

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Cusack, in the past 5 years or so, always looks like he's wearing mascara. It's offputting. Plus my girlfriend loves him more than me.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Are any of the bands Runrig or the Proclaimers? Deacon Blue? Cause this is the only music we produce Matt.

nah, you can always fall back on del amitri

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

And I meant that ppl shouldn't take it so seriously!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

co-adaptor yeah, i forgot that. Shame, I would rather he were blameless. Mind you, they were working with pretty rank material.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Knowing that one is being a prick so doesn't stop one being a prick. This is one of the lessons I have learned in life.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Cusack. Apart from Serendipity, which is a pile of twat.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I get offended AFTER I've been wound up. Where did you go trawling Dave to find out that I live in Scotland? To bring that up was completely irrelevant. I came on to give my opinion on the tone of a book and I am greeted with a torrent of anti-scottish vitriol. I have NEVER been knowingly insulting on this board or in trw, why are you getting away with it and nobody gives a damn?

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Rumpy, you are taking the bait!!!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I've lived (meekly) with rascism all my life Pink, should I just carry on?

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Ummmm, it's kind of locationism rather than racism innit.

Why can't we all just get along?

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i didn't go trawling anywhere to find out you're scottish, i partly guessed and then had it confirmed by smees' post saying you were scottish. i am not anti-scottish my mother was.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread needs more Marcello.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i would never have called her "too scottish"

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)


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