US Politics, September 2024 -- “I’m Not Going to Apologize For Posting a Joke”

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I mean I didn't want to admit it but all the one-liners and nicknames and Twitter shit really did turn out to be good politics given the way the modern media landscape is. the man really did shitpost his way into the Republican nomination, and then the presidency. and he's right that the one thing everyone remembers about this debate is the cats and dogs thing. people just don't give a shit. the main story out of last election's VP debate was that a fly landed on Mike Pence's head. trouble is he went from one of the best posters ever to the guy who posts insane 500 word rants on Nextdoor. his instincts have left him to the point where he's let unlikeable losers like JD Vance and Laura Loomer into his inner circle.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 September 2024 03:49 (one year ago)

As opposed to those likeable fellows, Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 19 September 2024 03:57 (one year ago)

those people at least had some kind of political sense

frogbs, Thursday, 19 September 2024 04:04 (one year ago)

some kind of political sense

We were told as much after they were given the bulk of credit for a successful presidential campaign, but their subsequent careers have not exactly been crowned by repeated successes. It's hard to pinpoint what acumen they supplied beyond getting Trump into the race and not trying to tone down his racism and penchant for constantly lying.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 19 September 2024 04:12 (one year ago)

I'm not arguing they're brilliant minds or anything. Miller in particular seems very dim. but I don't think even he would admit on TV that he's making up fake stories because he thinks racism helps the campaign.

also neither are the VP, who is gonna be your second most visible person. the Mike Pence pick was absolutely the correct one for 2016 - he seemed boring and normal enough, and the Evangelicals liked him, which was important because at the time there was this idea that the human embodiment of all seven deadly sins might be a turn-off for them. but JD Vance fucking sucks. he's incredibly off-putting and he makes for terrible TV. Trump used to have some kind of sense of these things. and Loomer is so obviously insane you'd think he'd know you don't want any association with her whatsoever. the Trump of 2016 at least had the sense to not fully embrace David Duke.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 September 2024 04:23 (one year ago)

as a counterpoint to the weird undecided youth at the times: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2024/kamala-harris-brat-summer/

symsymsym, Thursday, 19 September 2024 06:30 (one year ago)

Trump Being Trump And Not Just Another Evangelical Creep Republican is how we won in 2016 but that guy is dead.

I think he won in 2016 because of "I know the system is rigged...because I use it". Lines similar to that, but that one in particular.

And he passed the "turn the sound down and judge who won" test

He is flunking the Sound Down test this time time around. Stuff like this does matter, it why some two time Trump voters will vote for Kamala. People hear the tone and fill in their own words, to varying degrees

anvil, Thursday, 19 September 2024 07:29 (one year ago)

reading this is what kinda drove me nuts and thought his insanity was actually working on people. this also means that half of his voters don't believe him but don't care and are voting for him anyway:

More than half of Trump supporters believe the unsubstantiated claim made by the former president that Haitian immigrants are abducting and eating cats and dogs, according to a new poll.
a new poll, conducted by YouGov between September 11 and September 12, shows that 52 percent of likely 2024 Trump voters believe that the claim is "definitely" or "probably" true, compared to just 4 percent of likely 2024 Harris voters. Meanwhile, only 25 percent of likely 2024 Trump voters believe that the claim is "definitely" or "probably" false, while 24 percent said they are not sure. Of the likely 2024 Harris voters, 88 percent believe the claim is false and 8 percent are not sure.

The poll also shows that 46 percent of registered Republicans "definitely" or "probably" believe the claim, while 29 percent believe it is not true and 24 percent are not sure.

That is compared to 8 percent of registered Democrats who answered that the claim is "definitely" or "probably" true, and 81 percent who said it is false. Ten percent of Democrats said they were not sure.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2024 13:05 (one year ago)

Democrats also being racist idiots in huge shocka

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 September 2024 13:56 (one year ago)

What matters is that the pet story is emotionally true.

Answering a pollster in the way most likely to tRigGer tHe liBs is the important thing. Doing this is not normal verbal communication, it is a speech act, done to get a dopamine release. It has the approximate linguistic sophistication of a chimp flinging feces.

In a recent poll, 88% of Trump supporters said that their responses to polls is 93% motivated by a sentiment best described as "because fuck you, that's why."

Nudist Oudist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 19 September 2024 13:58 (one year ago)

Democrats being immigration reactionaries themselves makes combating reactionary immigrant lies a wee bit difficult.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:03 (one year ago)

https://i.imgur.com/ymrmfrj.jpg

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:04 (one year ago)

evangelicals liked him, which was important because at the time there was this idea that the human embodiment of all seven deadly sins might be a turn-off for them.

just have to point out that the seven deadly sins is a catholic thing*. evangelicals don't care about trump's deadly sins because they're convinced that god is working through him and bringing about endtime events through him (the cyrus thing). the belief is not far off from Q shit, and there's a lot of overlap

*yes i know, christianity experts, i know it's not 100.0% a catholic thing

z_tbd, Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:12 (one year ago)

also, although the formal structures of a lot of white evangelical churches are very loose, the groupthink there is absolutely out of control. so whoever seems to be the leader of the group, the one who others respect and the one who translates glossolalia into english, that kind of stuff - basically whatever that person says is what god thinks. they say what they think god is thinking, and then everyone in the room either nods along and smiles and says "amen, brother", and if they don't like that they can leave. there's no rule that says they have to do exactly what the leader says, but in reality, in warped reality, where fucked up things happen in white evangelical churches all the time, there seems to be no one who can defy the spiritual leader of the group who is also the one who knows most about american politics and is also the one understands how god is doing invisible stuff and what the overall plan is. it's just "amen, brother"

z_tbd, Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:17 (one year ago)

anyway, sorry for the weird interruption. alfred's paul ryan meme otm

z_tbd, Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:27 (one year ago)

naw good post

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:28 (one year ago)

Anyone -- pundits usually -- who wail about evangelicals supporting Trump (yeah but JESUS) don't realize it's not about Jesus, it's about the Old Testament and Revelations.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:29 (one year ago)

They tend to forget about the false prophet though

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:29 (one year ago)

religion is the story we tell about our cultural values or some shit, i dont think its that simple but theres a lot of that going on

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:30 (one year ago)

as Joan Didion said, we tell ourselves stories about Jesus in order to hang other people on the cross.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:31 (one year ago)

accidentally clicked on For You X this morning and was cast into a wild landscape of people defending that Matt Walsh movie Am I Racist--something about it was ok to dupe people who appeared and gave consent to be in the movie which led me into crazy right wing xtian twitter which jesus christ those people are fucking freaks

a (waterface), Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:43 (one year ago)

this guy is getting absolutely roasted in the comments

Bradley Cooper is the Libertarian candidate for U.S. Congress from Pennsylvania District 1 in 2024! You can sign up to help Bradley’s campaign at the website https://t.co/qXXcNuclI1 pic.twitter.com/wn6DM9PbHk

— Libertarian Party (@LPNational) September 17, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:47 (one year ago)

"You'll never take my guns, or me lucky charms!"

— Mushroom Kingdom Schizo (@MKSchizo) September 17, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:47 (one year ago)

man, Bradley Cooper took the loss of Maestro at the Oscars hard.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:49 (one year ago)

Messing with prosthetics again I see

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:50 (one year ago)

Time for Negronis

https://wapo.st/47v14Do

Nudist Oudist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 19 September 2024 14:59 (one year ago)

New NYT/Sienna poll has Trump and Harris tied nationally, but Harris 4 points ahead in PA. Whatever.

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:02 (one year ago)

https://bradleycooper4congress.com/the-cooper-agenda/
END FOREGIN WARS
LESS GOVERNMEN

c u (crüt), Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:02 (one year ago)

Will he accept cash, or only Turkish delight?

a (waterface), Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:03 (one year ago)

Hobbits are known for having little interest in the wars in other lands

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:04 (one year ago)

Will he accept cash, or only Turkish delight?

― a (waterface),

said the White Witch to her Black Dwarf underling about the Son of Adam.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:11 (one year ago)

"but Harris 4 points ahead in PA. Whatever."

ah, but the washington post says they are tied in PA!

polls are the dumb.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:11 (one year ago)

I think the important point is that trump hasn't gained in the polls anywhere that matters (except maybe nevada? not sure) and harris has not slowed her trajectory since entering the race. She/Dems would have to monumentally fuck up at this point not to win, I think.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:24 (one year ago)

Emerson has all the swing states basically tied.

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:28 (one year ago)

dont really love the tied thing, way ahead would be better

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:31 (one year ago)

Xpost - NYT polls guy Nate Cohn is almost as annoying as Nate Silver.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:48 (one year ago)

You hate Nates.

pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:54 (one year ago)

trump hasn't gained in the polls anywhere that matters (except maybe nevada? not sure) and harris has not slowed her trajectory since entering the race

i don't think either of these things is necessarily true? trump has gained in wisconsin over the past month. the race is tighter in PA than it was a month ago. trump is back on top in GA polls.

c u (crüt), Thursday, 19 September 2024 15:56 (one year ago)

Natred has no home here

Xp

Nudist Oudist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:00 (one year ago)

Ha. Just those 2 Nate polls guys. Not other Nates

curmudgeon, Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:02 (one year ago)

She/Dems would have to monumentally fuck up at this point not to win, I think.

Can't overstate how vehemently I disagree with this. I think they have had to have surefooted success after surefooted success just to get to the point of having a roughly 50/50 shot.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:05 (one year ago)

i think the polls are wrong again

a (waterface), Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:13 (one year ago)

She was up 6 in another recent national poll, which means even a polling error and the electoral college wouldn’t save him

frogbs, Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:14 (one year ago)

???

Sources with direct knowledge have spoken with Carolina Journal on the condition of anonymity and said that Robinson is under pressure from staff and members of the Trump campaign to withdraw from the governor’s race due to the nature of the story, which they say involves activity on adult websites in 2000s.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/robinson-under-pressure-to-withdraw-from-gubernatorial-race

“The main ones I remember were that they were alleging he made some extremely racist comments about Martin Luther King, referred to himself as a Black Nazi and used antisemitic language referring to Jews,” Williams stated in the text message.

https://businessnc.com/upcoming-cnn-story-has-robinson-on-defense/

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:15 (one year ago)

pressure
pushing down on me
jacking off online
doom boom ba beh

a (waterface), Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:16 (one year ago)

Some major drama is shaking out in NC's gubernatorial race. Sources tell me a CNN story is forthcoming. Robinson's two campaign events today in Vance and Warren counties have been cancelled. Robinson's closest advisers & Robinson himself aren't taking my calls for comment. #ncpol

— Bryan Anderson (@BryanRAnderson) September 19, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:22 (one year ago)

mail ballots out tomorrow in NC btw lol

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:23 (one year ago)

this guy gotta have the biggest number of bombshell stories ever

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:24 (one year ago)

oh yeah, I remember when we permabanned that guy

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:25 (one year ago)

read that as "closet advisors"

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2024 16:25 (one year ago)


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